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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

Anyone can add new renders to the profiles at any time, they just wouldn't replace the main profile images. They'd be labeled as "G.O.D.S. design" and placed in a second tabber.

I actually rendered out The In-Betweener’s redesign, in case anyone wants to put it on his profile.
 
I've seen a lot of people criticize Murewa for making Storm too OP. Did people forget about Starlin?
Starlin is even worse in the "raging, arrogant, hollow, bland, unsympathetic, and uninteresting Gary Stu/Mary Sue egomaniacal power-trip who has no other purpose than beating up lots of far more interesting and sympathetic characters to somehow prove that they are the bestest best best supremiest ever" area, and also seems to be very spiritually nihilistic and amoral, so I agree about that he is considerably worse, but one bad thing does not excuse another. 🙏
 
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I've seen a lot of people criticize Murewa for making Storm too OP.
I’ve also been seeing this take a lot and I struggle to understand what people are talking about. She hasn’t done anything crazy with her mutant powers imo. Sure she’s eternity’s avatar for now but that is for specific purpose and will likely end with this run.
 
I’ve also been seeing this take a lot and I struggle to understand what people are talking about. She hasn’t done anything crazy with her mutant powers imo. Sure she’s eternity’s avatar for now but that is for specific purpose and will likely end with this run.
I personally find Storm's extremely aggressive and arrogant "let's beat up lots of decent people just because I feel superior to them and the writers and readers want to go on a power trip" attitude rather annoying in recent years. Her suddenly going from simply being a glass cannon able to create country-wide weather effects to beating up X-Man at his continuity-creating peak, multiple Dominions, or several of some of the most powerful demon lords at the same time, felt forced enough as it was, and now she is powered up even more beyond that just to become an even bigger ego and power trip than that.

However, I am mentally split about it. I prefer if the forces of good, even comparatively bland, uninteresting, aggressively arrogant, and rather annoying forces of good such as Storm, in Marvel Comics are actually able to fight against the strongest forces of evil in the verse, which they did not remotely use to be able to do, and which turned the setting far more dystopian than currently, and Oblivion is a conceptual cancer and an enormous mistake to have introduced into the cosmology in the first place, so if Storm's writer decisively finally gets rid of him, then that is a great initiative, and massive power to her for that, even if Storm herself has turned increasingly annoying in recent years.

I suppose that I will likely have to endure that Hulk and Storm will simultaneously "respectfully" bid Thor's legacy of noble altruistic heroic self-sacrifice farewell as he willingly sacrifices his life for the greater good, by beating him up to show how comparatively supremiest they are next month, severely groan-inducing, and much worse personalities and bland and rather shallow uninteresting concepts and stories or not.
 
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That said, I consider Storm to easily be one of the least unsympathetic X-Men characters, but that is not saying much, given that their fundamental concept has developed into a "master race" ("homo superior") with an enormous persecution complex, and that is so aggressively militantly tribalist that it will casually repeatedly accept genocidal supremacist mass-murderers into its ranks, so it reads more like an almost point by point endorsement of the original mindset of Nazism than a rejection of it, at least after Jonathan Hickman and Kieron Gillen got through with the X-Men comic books.
 
I personally find Storm's extremely aggressive and arrogant "let's beat up lots of decent people just because I feel superior to them and the writers and readers want to go on a power trip" attitude rather annoying in recent years.
I haven’t seen her do this imo could you please provide an example?
 
From what I recall, for example, when Thor politely asked her for help, she responded by repeatedly arrogantly screaming at and attacking him while he was just standing there, and when her fellow X-Men were trying to bring in Charles Xavier into police custody for war crimes, she viciously attacked them and nearly crippled Cyclops in the process, even though he isn't a threat to her as she is currently.
 
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From what I recall, for example, when Thor politely asked her for help, she responded by repeatedly arrogantly attacking him while he was just standing there, and when her fellow X-Men were trying to bring in Charles Xavier into police custody for war crimes, she viciously attacked them and nearly crippled Cyclops in the process, even though he isn't a threat to her as she is currently.
The way that issue plays out Ant Thor drags her away from a war that’s been going on so it’s understandable that she’s mad. Thor asks her after dragging her away and once it’s clear why she immediately agrees to help and understands why he called her in the way he did.
 
She knows that Thor is a good guy and would have good reasons for summoning her. It is not normal sensible behaviour to start hysterically attacking nice people unprovoked. 🙏
 
That said, I consider Storm to easily be one of the least unsympathetic X-Men characters, but that is not saying much, given that their fundamental concept has developed into a "master race" ("homo superior") with an enormous persecution complex, and that is so aggressively militantly tribalist that it will casually repeatedly accept genocidal supremacist mass-murderers into its ranks, so it reads more like an almost point by point endorsement of the original mindset of Nazism than a rejection of it, at least after Jonathan Hickman and Kieron Gillen got through with the X-Men comic books.
Yeesh, and people wonder why I stopped caring for the X-Men. Then again, I was also in favor of the Inhumans, and they had problems of their own given the whole "you die if your genetics aren't strong enough to survive teregenesis" thing, so maybe I shouldn't say anything...
 
suppose that I will likely have to endure that Hulk and Storm will simultaneously "respectfully" bid Thor's legacy of noble altruistic heroic self-sacrifice farewell as he willingly sacrifices his life for the greater good, by beating him up to show how comparatively supremest they are next month, severely groan-inducing, and much worse personalities and bland and rather shallow uninteresting concepts or not.
Hulk has been like that for years. Hulk reaching this level of power is nothing new🙂
 
Maybe, but the Hulk is almost as unsympathetic a fundamental concept as the X-Men is, so I do not care for him either. He is rage, pain, despair, and hatred irresponsibly running berserk, and has no interesting personality or supporting cast to speak of.
 
I recently read Deadpool kills Deadpool and there says that every Deadpool have passive reality manipulation. In the end of run only dreadpool and main Deadpool remained, main Deadpool also killed dreadpool dispite his resurrection through progenitors (higher realms guys). So can I scale main Deadpool to other Deadpools (like "the end" Deadpool).
 
What kind of passive reality manipulation? Being able to harm and kill people enormously above his weight class? That seems like a very common ability for Marvel Comics characters that many writers favour and want to win, as Stan Lee himself at least once openly admitted.

Deadpool also has the narrative power to irresponsibly twist malevolent sadistic and morbid casual thrill-killing combined psychopathy and severe psychosis into something "cool" and admireable as an "ideal" to strive towards, which I am not a fan of at all, as usual. 🙏
 
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What kind of passive reality manipulation? Being able to harm and kill people enormously above his weight class? That seems like a very common ability for Marvel Comics characters that many writers favour and want to win, as Stan Lee himself once openly admitted.

Deadpool also has the narrative power to irresponsibly twist malevolent sadistic and morbid casual thrill-killing combined psychopathy and psychosis into something "cool" and admireable as an "ideal" to strive towards, which I am not at all a fan of, as usual. 🙏
Deadpool is a source of reality, he can make everything real with his power of mind, Dreadpool create alternative versions of deadpool, deadpool made knife appear in Dreadpool body.
 
Okay. So it is more connected to his metafictional awareness then? 🙏
 
What kind of passive reality manipulation? Being able to harm and kill people enormously above his weight class? That seems like a very common ability for Marvel Comics characters that many writers favour and want to win, as Stan Lee himself once openly admitted.

Deadpool also has the narrative power to irresponsibly twist malevolent sadistic and morbid casual thrill-killing combined psychopathy and psychosis into something "cool" and admireable as an "ideal" to strive towards, which I am not a fan of at all, as usual. 🙏
Say, if you don't mind me asking, what comics from Marvel are you enjoying right now? I heard a good chunk of them have themes you're clearly not a fan of, so I was kinda curious. Sorry if that's a bother or anything.
 
Omni-man's story is a almost a complete rip off of Mar-vell
Everything in media is a rip-off of something else, but honestly it's disingenuous to try and pick apart media based on tropes or how much of a rip-off something it, it's dismissive and does not allow room to judge the piece of media in question based on its own merits. Plus I prefer to look at things from a holistic perspective, it just gives a better package of understanding for the piece of media in question and allow you to appreciate it more.
 
Everything in media is a rip-off of something else, but honestly it's disingenuous to try and pick apart media based on tropes or how much of a rip-off something it, it's dismissive and does not allow room to judge the piece of media in question based on its own merits. Plus I prefer to look at things from a holistic perspective, it just gives a better package of understanding for the piece of media in question and allow you to appreciate it more.
Don't be saying as if it's just a trope, the story is so similar that it's ridiculous, for example the nega bomb that exploded 99% of the Tree so that the 1% would be the strongest, very similar to how the Viltrumites killed most of their population so only the strongest are left. There are many similarities you can't just called it "tropes".
Anyways take it as you may, my point is you wanted to have Ms. Marvel be a copy of the person she admires despite she be trying to be her own hero instead of Captain Marvel's sidekick.
 
Say, if you don't mind me asking, what comics from Marvel are you enjoying right now? I heard a good chunk of them have themes you're clearly not a fan of, so I was kinda curious. Sorry if that's a bother or anything.
Only Thor at the moment, but I used to like She-Hulk and Defenders as well. 🙏
 
my point is you wanted to have Ms. Marvel be a copy of the person she admires despite she be trying to be her own hero instead of Captain Marvel's sidekick.
I'm not exactly sure where I see the problem, Kamala canonically already likes and admires superheroes, I'm just suggesting that there is one superhero that she has personal relations with like her father or other family member for context on the type of hero she wishes to be, like with Mark and Nolan. Mark doesn't want to be exactly like Nolan, he wants to be his own hero while emulating the work Omni-Man does.
 
I'm not exactly sure where I see the problem, Kamala canonically already likes and admires superheroes, I'm just suggesting that there is one superhero that she has personal relations with like her father or other family member for context on the type of hero she wishes to be, like with Mark and Nolan. Mark doesn't want to be exactly like Nolan, he wants to be his own hero while emulating the work Omni-Man does.
Nah, you are suggesting another plot exactly like the one repeated multiple times for characters very close compared to her through legacy.
Also you are suggesting that there was a Kree operative still hidden there despite the fact that Kree are at peace because of emperor Hulking, any mission her parents would have had ended the moment Hulking took over years ago.
 
Also you are suggesting that there was a Kree operative still hidden there despite the fact that Kree are at peace because of emperor Hulking, any mission her parents would have had ended the moment Hulking took over years ago.
Okay, I think I get it, it definitely could not work in the comics (unless Marvel were to go through a crisis event that reboots everything or if Kamala were to live in alternate universe), although could it have worked in the MCU?
 
Okay, I think I get it, it definitely could not work in the comics (unless Marvel were to go through a crisis event that reboots everything or if Kamala were to live in alternate universe), although could it have worked in the MCU?
Of course you couldn't, you don't have the creativity to make up a new story since all you want is to copy a story of other.
 
Of course you couldn't, you don't have the creativity to make up a new story since all you want is to copy a story of other.
What would you do instead though? What do you think could reinvigorate the character of Ms. Marvel?
you are suggesting another plot exactly like the one repeated multiple times for characters very close compared to her through legacy.
Mind listing all of those times you are talking about?
 
At least Kamala is likeable and sympathetic, even if her stories may have mostly been a bit boring and low-scale. That is much better than most other western comicbook characters nowadays. 🙏
 
Let's hope that she drags them up rather than that they drag her down. 🙏
 
What would you do instead though? What do you think could reinvigorate the character of Ms. Marvel?
Good new villains, simple stories, cameos of characters that she usually interacts with off panel.
Mind listing all of those times you are talking about?
I already told you about Mar-vell being pretty much like Nolan, Hulking like Mark. Do you want other? Mari-ell you probably don't know but she is Carol Danvers's mother a Kree champion sent to earth to conquer it, she felt in love with earth had a daughter who fought to protect earth from her own race the Kree, she even has a half sibling who works protecting earth with her, known as Lauri-ell.
Sincerely I lost count the amount of Kree who ended up turning good or at least quitting trying to conquer/destroy earth. Ronan and Thragg have a lot in common even the fact they became emperors of their own race, being a villain to the human race and having their plans of conquering earth shattered by people of their own race.
 
Yes, but that seems to be what it means IRL at least. 🙏
 
(Hope I can get an insight on this one)

How would yall rate Superior Spider-Man's intelligence in comparison to Mr. Fantastic's? I ask cuz maybe id put him against Post-Flashpoint Batman but with prep time for both, and this guy apparently wins against Reed
 
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