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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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Lonkitt said:
I might as well just say this now, I'm lowkey LURKING on this calc's status because I'm planning to get rid of the Tier 7 scaling for him and Wolvie (long story short, the TVA don't scale to Loki)
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TVA scaling has always pmo so yeah bro please get rid of that lmao
 
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Does Bucky arm normally glow or is void doing something to it?
 
Lonkitt said:
If all goes well with this revision, I'm gonna try and do a revamp for Jessica Jones and Luke Cage's profiles (no tier changes, just MAJOR revamps for abilities, intelligence, LS [hopefully], etc.)
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Real. I've been meaning to watch all the other Netflix Marvel shows for awhile now, I've only seen DD and Defenders so far.
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Who will be next......
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pookie mayhaps?
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Lacku said:
Real. I've been meaning to watch all the other Netflix Marvel shows for awhile now, I've only seen DD and Defenders so far.
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I would 100% recommend tapping into more of the Defenders Saga. Its one of my favourite corners of the MCU. I do think Daredevil is the best thing to come out of it, but the other stuff certainly shouldn't be slept on

Lacku said:
pookie mayhaps?
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We're SO Bullseye-back....
 
Lonkitt said:
I would 100% recommend tapping into more of the Defenders Saga. Its one of my favourite corners of the MCU. I do think Daredevil is the best thing to come out of it, but the other stuff certainly shouldn't be slept on
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Will say I'm most interested in Luke Cage and then Jessica Jones behind that and definitely will check them out soon.
Lonkitt said:
We're SO Bullseye-back....
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Being a Bullseye truther has been so rewarding recently especially after episode 8 of Born Again like my goat is really back 😭😭
 
Lacku said:
Will say I'm most interested in Luke Cage and then Jessica Jones behind that and definitely will check them out soon.
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I still need to watch Jessica Jones Season 3 (I've been binging the Defenders Saga in order, so that'll be right before I tap into Born Again), but I really liked Seasons 1 and 2. Super depressing, but in a way that really fits. Plus, both actually touched on the concept of superhumans being discriminated against after The Avengers (2012), which is a topic that really isn't touched on anywhere else in the MCU. Also, Kilgrave's just an absolutely VILE villain

Luke Cage is also a REALLY good show, just for completely different reasons than Jessica Jones. Season 2 especially, even if the very ending of it is something I would've preferred to be different. Also, the show mentions/uses Hammer Tech more times than the movies ever do which I think is really funny

Lacku said:
Being a Bullseye truther has been so rewarding recently especially after episode 8 of Born Again like my goat is really back 😭😭
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I'm so glad this man is completely unhinged like in the comics. The MCU didn't hold back, they still had this man throwing office supplies and shit at Matt in Season 3 LMAO
 
There are apparently a couple of multiplier statements in the Netflix shows (though I can't find clips for either of them), which I might have to look more into in the future. It would have very little effect on existing scaling, as between the two statements, I'm pretty sure only two characters would be impacted, one of which doesn't even have a profile.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
There are apparently a couple of multiplier statements in the Netflix shows (though I can't find clips for either of them), which I might have to look more into in the future. It would have very little effect on existing scaling, as between the two statements, I'm pretty sure only two characters would be impacted, one of which doesn't even have a profile.
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Which characters.....

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Dinobot1996 said:
Alisa from Jessica Jones season 2
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Oh, I must've missed that. I can't remember a multiplier statement for Alisa

One thing that's interesting is that even after fighting her once, Jessica outright says Alisa's stronger than her. I wonder how the multiplier might affect that

Dinobot1996 said:
Bushmaster (with maximum Nightshade dosage)
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I was kinda curious about this too, since the last fight Luke has against Bushmaster is after John had taken several dosages
 
Lonkitt said:
Oh, I must've missed that. I can't remember a multiplier statement for Alisa

One thing that's interesting is that even after fighting her once, Jessica outright says Alisa's stronger than her. I wonder how the multiplier might affect that
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It should be in season 2 episode 4, where Jessica says of Alisa "This chick is twice my strength." Applying this multiplier statement would put Alisa as being at least 9-A+ under existing scaling, though if my current 9-A CRT goes through, it would just barely put her at 8-C.

Lonkitt said:
I was kinda curious about this too, since the last fight Luke has against Bushmaster is once John has taken several dosages
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In Luke Cage season 2, episode 12, Tilda states that the Nightshade supershot she provides to Bushmaster could double his strength, which would mean that he would be up to High 8-C with increased Nightshade doses.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
It should be in season 2 episode 4, where Jessica says of Alisa "This chick is twice my strength." Applying this multiplier statement would put Alisa as being at least 9-A+ under existing scaling, though if my current 9-A CRT goes through, it would just barely put her at 8-C.
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I double checked, and yep, she says that.

Not bad. Plus, depending on how the calcs for the new LS feats go (currently watching for the status of calcs for Jessica and Post-Amp Luke go approval wise), that multiplier could be applied based on the new rating Jessica ends up with

Dinobot1996 said:
In Luke Cage season 2, episode 12, Tilda states that the Nightshade supershot she provides to Bushmaster could double his strength, which would mean that he would be up to High 8-C with increased Nightshade doses.
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Also checked this one, and yeah, Tilda says that (once again, the way this was phrased would also mean his LS gets a boost)

Honestly, thats incredibly impressive for the Defenders side of things
 
Imagine a Kilgrave variant with his full powers from the comics controlling the likes of Hulk and Thor
 
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Lonkitt said:
I still need to watch Jessica Jones Season 3 (I've been binging the Defenders Saga in order, so that'll be right before I tap into Born Again), but I really liked Seasons 1 and 2. Super depressing, but in a way that really fits. Plus, both actually touched on the concept of superhumans being discriminated against after The Avengers (2012), which is a topic that really isn't touched on anywhere else in the MCU. Also, Kilgrave's just an absolutely VILE villain
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Will say about Born Again it (at least to me) feels like a prologue season to the real story that’ll be coming in season 2. The new creative team have kinda treated the old footage as set up for the new direction they’re going in season 2 and honestly it’s pretty interesting to watch. Episode 8 is just straight up fantastic though and I feel like the plots in full swing now.

On Jessica Jones whenever I get around to that I’ll be really interested to see just how vile Kilgrave is.

Lonkitt said:
Luke Cage is also a REALLY good show, just for completely different reasons than Jessica Jones. Season 2 especially, even if the very ending of it is something I would've preferred to be different. Also, the show mentions/uses Hammer Tech more times than the movies ever do which I think is really funny
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Again these shows really add so much to the lore in the MCU. If they were gone the verse would feel so hollow imo.

Lonkitt said:
I'm so glad this man is completely unhinged like in the comics. The MCU didn't hold back, they still had this man throwing office supplies and shit at Matt in Season 3 LMAO
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Ever since my first time watching season 3 Bullseye has always been my goat so the fact they’re getting him so right honestly almost doesn’t feel real. Need him to show up in every street level MCU project as a recurring villain no joke.
 
Lacku said:
On Jessica Jones whenever I get around to that I’ll be really interested to see just how vile Kilgrave is.
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Genuinely, he's gotta be in the top 5 MCU villains for me

Lacku said:
Again these shows really add so much to the lore in the MCU. If they were gone the verse would feel so hollow imo.
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I agree 100%

Lacku said:
Ever since my first time watching season 3 Bullseye has always been my goat so the fact they’re getting him so right honestly almost doesn’t feel real. Need him to show up in every street level MCU project as a recurring villain no joke.
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Given how Bullseye's shown off his versatility in the comics in terms of heroes and anti-heroes he can go up against, I also hope they have him make more appearances

With the new Punisher show coming out, they could absolutely take advantage of that at the very least
 
Lacku said:
Again these shows really add so much to the lore in the MCU. If they were gone the verse would feel so hollow imo.
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Also rq I just wanna bring up how crazy it is that I am only learning this year upon watching Iron Fist that the show has TYPHOID MARY
 
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ArkhamDC06 said:
So the Cassandra blog I have made a while ago is still waiting, posting it here so we can see if she can FINALLY be posted

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Cassandra Nova (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

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Oh, yeah another thing

MCU Daredevil shouldn't be linked on the page. FOX Elektra and Deadpool pretty heavily implied (if not outright confirm) it was her Daredevil that was killed by Cassandra, so FOX Daredevil should be linked instead. Either way, it helps back up her new 9-A rating since FOX Matt scales to another 9-A feat within his own verse

I wouldn't link any Punisher page on her page either, since Deadpool even asks which one since there's several live action versions of Frank Castle, to which he never receives an answer
 
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Lacku said:
Ain't no way why were they stealing villains 😭😭
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Jessica Jones used NUKE, who just as a reminder is a Captain America and Wolverine villain which is kinda funny. I respect it in a weird classic comic crossover-y way though

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Edited the blog, check it out if it seems ok now
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The ratings/scaling looks good now, yeah. My only other suggestion would be to reword the powers scaling since I'm not sure if killing a variant of Quicksilver does much to justify the rating

RoTt35 said:
Shouldn't her TK be 8-C since she killed the Human Torch?
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Oh yeah, good point

Okay, taking this into account, I would phrase her rating for her powers as the following:

at least Building level with powers (Ripped off the Human Torch's skin with a mere gesture. Casually overpowered Deadpool and Wolverine. Was stated to have killed several superhero variants, including the Daredevil that originated from Elektra's world)
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For those of you who are not certified FOX Fantastic Four powerscalers, base Johnny scales to this
 
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Lonkitt said:
Jessica Jones used NUKE, who just as a reminder is a Captain America and Wolverine villain which is kinda funny. I respect it in a weird classic comic crossover-y way though



The ratings/scaling looks good now, yeah. My only other suggestion would be to reword the powers scaling since I'm not sure if killing a variant of Quicksilver does much to justify the rating



Oh yeah, good point

Okay, taking this into account, I would phrase her rating for her powers as the following:



For those of your who are not certified FOX Fantastic Four powerscalers, base Johnny scales to this
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