Alter Knight possibly upgrade

[Guardiangt]

I would like to review this feat achieved by Alter Knight, the alternate version of Knight:

Feat

•In Guardian Tales, there is a prophecy, a destiny, that inflicts a Loop on the Universe, condemning it to repeat itself infinitely, causing all events to repeat themselves over and over again. As prophesied, Alter Knight cuts off the Savior's head, an event that always occurs and is the point where the prophecy ends and begins again. Unlike all the characters, Alter Knight is not erased or reset, having to wander in the void that was once his universe.

•Which causes the destruction of his world in an entity known as Labose, a creature that erases matter and all living beings with which it comes into contact.

•What I wanted to test was whether this was a 3-A feat (considering that the destruction of the universe was through Environmental Destruction). And if not, what could it be?

 

[SpadeZ]

[What I wanted to test was whether this was a 3-A feat (considering that the destruction of the universe was through Environmental Destruction). And if not, what could it be?]

(Note: I haven’t played GT in a long time, so I probably forgot some of the lore.)

I have an issue with this, he wasn’t the cause, nor did he destroy the universe directly. He just cut off the Savior’s head. To me, it seemed like the universe collapsed on its own or by labose? after his journey ended.

However, it seems like the Alter-Knight’s timeline was permanently destroyed, since he’s been existing in his own "void" universe for seven years before being sent to another timeline with the current Knight.

But he did survive the destruction of the universe, so maybe that would qualify as 3-A durability for Alter-Knight, or at least suggest some form of resistance.

 

[Guardiangt]

[What I wanted to test was whether this was a 3-A feat (considering that the destruction of the universe was through Environmental Destruction). And if not, what could it be?]

(Note: I haven’t played GT in a long time, so I probably forgot some of the lore.)

I have an issue with this, he wasn’t the cause, nor did he destroy the universe directly. He just cut off the Savior’s head. To me, it seemed like the universe collapsed on its own or by labose? after his journey ended.

However, it seems like the Alter-Knight’s timeline was permanently destroyed, since he’s been existing in his own "void" universe for seven years before being sent to another timeline with the current Knight.

But he did survive the destruction of the universe, so maybe that would qualify as 3-A durability for Alter-Knight, or at least suggest some form of resistance.

Yes, that's what I mean. Alter Knight wasn't the cause himself; he didn't destroy the universe. It was Labose who destroyed it, so this feat wouldn't be considered AP on Alter Knight's part, but rather durability.

Still, this feat can be scaled quite a bit with the following:
• In the main story, the Plague Doctor absorbs all of Labose's power, and is then defeated by Knight. Alter Knight is stronger than him, as he has the Champion Sword at full potential. (Labose was the one who destroyed Alter's timeline.)
• Alter Knight and Savior had a confrontation before that, and he should have been able to damage Alter. Since even Alter was standing next to all the champions, it would be weird if The Savior couldn't do anything to him, so Savior and Alter should be comparable.

 

[SpadeZ]

In the main story, the Plague Doctor absorbs all of Labose's power

Um no?

[After he found the source of Labose, he merged it with the crystal that he buried in his heart. Hoping he would learn something that can help him seal Labose, he was instead greeted with emptiness. Confused, he immediately tried to rationalize why the hivemind was empty, before considering the idea that perhaps the source of destruction wasn't fully Labose,]

[put his mask back on, and told the Knight that Labose is destructive, strong and posess absolute dominion, although its hivemind was severely lacking, as its only objective is to survive.]

So he didn’t absorb “all” of Labose’s power. If anything, the story implies that the Plague Doctor failed to fully comprehend or obtain it.

Alter Knight and Savior had a confrontation before that, and he should have been able to damage Alter. Since even Alter was standing next to all the champions, it would be weird if The Savior couldn't do anything to him, so Savior and Alter should be comparable.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here, sorry. Or are you trying to say that the savior has the same energy to destroy the universe since he can hurt Alter-knight?

questionable, i think damaging Alter-Knight doesn’t automatically equate to having universe-destroying energy, especially when other contextual elements like the sword, the state of the universe, or other narrative mechanics are in play

And plus the caused of destruction of the universe was not only labose but also the champion sword.

[before considering the idea that perhaps the source of destruction wasn't fully Labose, and that the Champion's Sword was also a key factor behind The Loop]

 

[Guardiangt]

Um no?

[After he found the source of Labose, he merged it with the crystal that he buried in his heart. Hoping he would learn something that can help him seal Labose, he was instead greeted with emptiness. Confused, he immediately tried to rationalize why the hivemind was empty, before considering the idea that perhaps the source of destruction wasn't fully Labose,]

[put his mask back on, and told the Knight that Labose is destructive, strong and posess absolute dominion, although its hivemind was severely lacking, as its only objective is to survive.]

So he didn’t absorb “all” of Labose’s power. If anything, the story implies that the Plague Doctor failed to fully comprehend or obtain it.

The Champion's Sword is the "key" that awakens Labose, and it devours everything around him. Labose isn't the only one who causes the end of the world, as the Champion's Sword is also involved, but the one who destroys everything is Labose alone; the Sword only awakens him. According to Loraine, someone who was inside the hive mind, when Labose awakens, it devours everything around, including the world.
The reason his mind is empty could be for several reasons, but I don't see how it relates to his power. Kaden later makes it clear, "Labose's power and will are with me."

 

[Guardiangt]

I don't understand what you're trying to say here, sorry. Or are you trying to say that the savior has the same energy to destroy the universe since he can hurt Alter-knight?

questionable, i think damaging Alter-Knight doesn’t automatically equate to having universe-destroying energy, especially when other contextual elements like the sword, the state of the universe, or other narrative mechanics are in play

And plus the caused of destruction of the universe was not only labose but also the champion sword.

[before considering the idea that perhaps the source of destruction wasn't fully Labose, and that the Champion's Sword was also a key factor behind The Loop]

In case Alter Knight has a 3-A durability, and Savior is able to damage it, this should give it a 3-A Ap, or am I wrong?

 

[SpadeZ]

[The Champion's Sword is the "key" that awakens Labose, and it devours everything around him. Labose isn't the only one who causes the end of the world, as the Champion's Sword is also involved, but the one who destroys everything is Labose alone; the Sword only awakens him.]

Scan?

The reason his mind is empty could be for several reasons

And that is?

but I don't see how it relates to his power.

Your wording it make it seem that way.

In the main story, the Plague Doctor absorbs all of Labose's power, and is then defeated by Knight. Alter Knight is stronger than him, as he has the Champion Sword at full potential. (Labose was the one who destroyed Alter's timeline.)

Kaden later makes it clear, "Labose's power and will are with me."

It could easily be symbolic. And if Kaden held the entirety of Labose’s power and will, why would the crystal be empty? Why speculate at all?

In case Alter Knight has a 3-A durability, and Savior is able to damage it, this should give it a 3-A Ap, or am I wrong?

questionable, i think damaging Alter-Knight doesn’t automatically equate to having universe-destroying energy, especially when other contextual elements like the sword, the state of the universe, or other narrative mechanics are in play.

Plus it could be some sort of resistance to the "void" or even to the labose.