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Fix the Ink Machine (Bendy Verse Clean-Up Thread)

Polastournecis said:
One thing you may have forgotten, it was the evolved Ink Demon, not Ink Bendy. Probably we should seperate this into another key. The Ink Demon is the only one to show these on-screen Low 2-C feats.
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We have no idea how big the power gap is between batim and batdr bendy
All we know is that he grew stronger and Wilsons knowledge of bendy was 100% based on how strong he was in batim.
Also low 2-C bendy is not gonna happen so drop it for now.
Polastournecis said:
The conversation has come to an end since quite a long time, you can close this now @DaReaperMan
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No?
also why are you tagging reaper?
 
Bendynoah10 said:
We have no idea how big the power gap is between batim and batdr bendy
All we know is that he grew stronger and Wilsons knowledge of bendy was 100% based on how strong he was in batim.
Also low 2-C bendy is not gonna happen so drop it for now.
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I'm not arguing on Low 2-C Bendy (if not for that mf Bambu), but what you said below just isn't true. His description stated his evolution to be a "natural progression", so no, he is not the BatIM Bendy after 211 days of torment
 
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Polastournecis said:
but what you said below just isn't true. His description stated his evolution to be a natural progression, so no, he is not the BatIM Bendy after 211 days
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he was with Wilson for most of that time lmao
As batim bendy.
We even see in Wilsons mansion art the depicts bendy with his batim appearance.
 
Separating them makes no sense
The best things batdr bendy has literally comes from batim bendy
All of his hype statements are because of how strong he was in batim
 
Separating them makes no sense
The best things batdr bendy has literally comes from batim bendy
All of his hype statements are because of how strong he was in batim
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That reminds me…
One thing you may have forgotten, it was the evolved Ink Demon, not Ink Bendy. Probably we should seperate this into another key. The Ink Demon is the only one to show these on-screen Low 2-C feats.
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I’m pretty sure Ink Bendy and Ink Demon symptoms with each other. I would prefer differentiating from with Ink Demon/Ink Bendy (BATIM) and Ink Demon/Ink Bendy(BATDR) or something IF you get this accepted.

You should ask the staff and provide solid evidence supporting these changes through (whenever you wish ofc).
 
However I don’t think the painting of Wilson slaying the Ink Demon is a reliable source of evidence considering it is inaccurate to both the BATIM and BATDR version but does take elements of both of them.

  1. The horns and longer, skinner, shaper and pointier than the Ink Demons horns in BATIM like in BATDR. But the end of the horns don’t point outwards much like his horns in BATIM don’t.
  2. His hands onto the only part that looks pretty accurate to the Ink Demons hand in BATDR as claws are the same size as each other and are longer, sharper and pointier than his one smaller humanoid hand and bigger cartoon glove hand in BATIM.
  3. His body dosnt have spikes like his body in BATDR but it also isn’t skeletal and skinny like his body in BATIM.
  4. And last but not least we cannot see his thin because his shoulders are covering it we can only see left cheek making it hard to compare it.
Therefore, while I see more features of the BATDR Ink Demon it isn’t entirely accurate to either of the versions of him.
 
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InkyBattles said:
However I don’t think the painting of Wilson slaying the Ink Demon is a reliable source of evidence considering it is inaccurate to both the BATIM and BATDR version but does take elements of both of them.

  1. The horns and longer, skinner, shaper and pointier than the Ink Demons horns in BATIM like in BATDR. But the end of the horns don’t point outwards much like his horns in BATIM don’t.
  2. His hands onto the only part that looks pretty accurate to the Ink Demons hand in BATDR as claws are the same size as each other and are sharper and pointier than his one smaller humanoid hand and bigger cartoon glove hand in BATIM.
  3. His body dosnt have spikes like his body in BATDR but it also isn’t skeletal and skinny like his body in BATIM.
  4. And last but not least we cannot see his thin because his shoulders are covering it we can only see left cheek making it hard to compare it.
Therefore, while I see more features of the BATDR Ink Demon it isn’t entirely accurate to either of the versions
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You do realize that Wilson met Bendy when he was in his BATIM form, right?
Why would he create an artistic depiction of Bendy resembling his BATIM form if he actually looked like how he does in BATDR?
No one has seen him outside of his BATIM appearance, aside from a handful of people, because he was sealed for at least 100 days.
Also, his chin isn’t being hidden. In the depiction, his head is completely circular at the bottom.
And his body completey fits the same skinny frame he had in batim.
 
Bendynoah10 said:
You do realize that Wilson met Bendy when he was in his BATIM form, right?
Why would he create an artistic depiction of Bendy resembling his BATIM form if he actually looked like how he does in BATDR?
No one has seen him outside of his BATIM appearance, aside from a handful of people, because he was sealed for at least 100 days.
Also, his chin isn’t being hidden. In the depiction, his head is completely circular at the bottom.
And his body completey fits the same skinny frame he had in batim.
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He meet Bendy when he first entered the Cycle it was stated in a audio logs.

And fine I’m gonna play alone with this game of pretending we’ve seen his chin and completely disagree the difference between a chin and a cheek and where they are located. But unfortunately there are still many other features that completely disregard this specifically being his “BATIM form”.

Let’s start with hands for an example. You’re telling me that BATIM Ink Demon has two sharp claws the same size as shown in that painting? Yet, you still haven’t proven to me that BATIM Ink Demon has sharp even sized claws as shown in the painting. I really hope I don’t need to explain the difference with comparison BATIM Ink Demons hands and BATDR Ink Demons hands because are totally different and the BATIM Ink Demons hands most certainly dosnt look like that which is a surface level fact something that EVERYONE can understand simply just pull up and Picture of the BATIM Ink Machine and compare its hands with the paintings, it’s not rocket science. And nor have you proven that the Ink Demon in that picture has a skeletal body like the BATIM Ink Demons who’s body was so skinny you could see his rib cage there is no rib cage being shown in this picture. Unless you can somehow convince me that the BATIM Ink Demon has these features I do not believe this is the BATIM Ink Demon in the slightest.
 
InkyBattles said:
He meet Bendy when he first entered the Cycle it was stated in a audio logs.
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Which was in the middle of Henry's adventure
Which means he did meet batim bendy.
InkyBattles said:
And fine I’m gonna play alone with this game of pretending we’ve seen his chin and completely disagree the difference between a chin and a cheek and where they are located. But unfortunately there are still many other aspects that completely disregard this specifically being his “BATIM form”.
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The only thing that is different is that he has claws and that his hands are the same size.
InkyBattles said:
Let’s start with hands for an example. You’re telling me that BATIM Ink Demon has two sharp claws the same size? Yet, you haven’t proven to me that BATIM Ink Demon has sharp even sized claws as shown in the painting I really hope I don’t need to explain the difference against because in comparison BATIM Ink Demons hands and BATDR Ink Demons hands are totally different. Nor have you proven that the Ink Demon in that picture has a skeletal body like the BATIM Ink Demons who’s body was so skinny you could see his rib cage there is no rib cage being shown in this picture. Unless you can somehow convince me that the BATIM Ink Demon has these features I do not believe this is the BATIM Ink Demon in the slightest.
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If you can't see the obvious similarities.
I don't know what to tell you
The only difference between is the hands.
The body is the same (also ofc you can't see the outline of his ribs the entire image incases him in darkness)
His head shape is the same it was in batim.
His body shape is the same.
 
Which was in the middle of Henry's adventure
Which means he did meet batim bendy.
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That’s definitely a possibility. But it depends if he meet the Ink Demon before he started altering the Cycle and if he met the Ink Demon before he fully evolved. We don’t even know how long the posses took the Ink Demon to evolve or how early on Wilson started altering the Cycle. So while you could definitely argue this there are so many questions unanswered and one could probably argue otherwise.

But who knows maybe the Cage will give us a confirmation answer if we are able to see when Wilson started altering the Cycle
Bendynoah10 said:
The only thing that is different is that he has claws and that his hands are the same size.
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Exactly. Not to mention his slightly longer and pointer horns, and these difference isn’t something the BATIM Ink Demon had which takes away from your argument that the painting is BATIM Ink Demon and add to my argument that it takes elements of BATIM Ink Demon and BATDR Ink Demon making this painting an unreliable source of evidence.

And artists typically don’t draw characters exactly the same and have their own takes on how they draw them which makes this hard to tell which is which especially with the amount of confidence you seem to have. If we could make out his facial features take his grain for an example then we would have a much easier time telling which version it is but he is turned away from the picture inside such a dark space.
If you can't see the obvious similarities.
I don't know what to tell you
The only difference between is the hands.
The body is the same (also ofc you can't see the outline of his ribs the entire image incases him in darkness)
His head shape is the same it was in batim.
His body shape is the same.
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(I wouldn’t call it “obvious” when two people disagree and it has many different features) but whenever! you don’t need lighting to see the rib cage you would be able to see the rig cage from the shape of the body none of which are shown here.
 
InkyBattles said:
That’s definitely a possibility. But it depends if he meet the Ink Demon before he started altering the Cycle and if he met the Ink Demon before he fully evolved. We don’t even know how long to posses took the Ink Demon to evolve or how early on Wilson started altering the Cycle.
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The fact that he locked up everyone, calling them "cycle breakers," and the only way they could break it was by killing Bendy means he would have 100% known about him before the evolution.
InkyBattles said:
(I wouldn’t call it “obvious” when two people disagree and it has many different features).
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The only major difference is that he has claws
InkyBattles said:
Exactly. Not to mention his slightly longer and pointer horns, and these difference isn’t something the BATIM Ink Demon had which takes away from your argument that the painting is BATIM Ink Demon and add to my argument that it takes elements of BATIM Ink Demon and BATDR Ink Demon making this painting an unreliable source of evidence.
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It looks almost nothing like BATDR Bendy. The only elements that could be taken from him are the claws and the horns (which aren't even curved outward).

BATDR Bendy does nothing that would justify him having his own key.
BATDR Bendy really only has a different appearance, and the difference in power is kept vague.
(If there even is one)
 
Bendynoah10 said:
It looks almost nothing like BATDR Bendy. The only elements that could be taken from him are the claws and the horns (which aren't even curved outward).
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And that is already enough to prove you are wrong. Despite the vague similarities, claws is a trait that cannot have in Ink Bendy.
Bendynoah10 said:
BATDR Bendy does nothing that would justify him having his own key.
BATDR Bendy really only has a different appearance, and the difference in power is kept vague.
(If there even is one)
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The Projectionist is just rebunkable as Shipahoy Dudley's case. Remember i listed in the previous CRT that Ink Demon has Invulnerability? What if their capability of harming Ink Demon comes from some hax negation?
To start with, Beast Bendy's first strike didn't even harm Henry at the slightest, and one his attack in the novel cannot even kill a 10-B woman though he could tear limbs just like pulling spaghetti noodles. Buddy even said "It is toying with us, like a cat with a mouse".

Also, did you really think i meant an entirely seperated character section? Ha, no! It's only adding Ink Bendy's png to the profile, Ink Demon and Ink Bendy would still have the same P&A and stats.
 
Polastournecis said:
And that is already enough to prove you are wrong. Despite the vague similarities, claws is a trait that cannot have in Ink Bendy.
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That's like one part of batdr Bendys design most of it is batim bendy
Polastournecis said:
To start with, Beast Bendy's first strike didn't even harm Henry at the slightest
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His goal with that was to get Henry out of the room so he wouldn't have the chance to put the reel in and kill him.
Polastournecis said:
in the novel cannot even kill a 10-B woman though he could tear limbs just like pulling spaghetti noodles. Buddy even said "It is toying with us, like a cat with a mouse".
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Yeah, Bendy doesn’t take them seriously—he was just messing with them.

He even squeezed Dot hard enough to hurt her, but not enough to kill her. Buddy even says "He was like a cat torturing a mouse. Not squeezing hard enough to kill her, but just enough to hurt her."

And in the second novel, he hit a Lost One so hard it literally blew up from the force.
Polastournecis said:
And that is already enough to prove you are wrong. Despite the vague similarities, claws is a trait that cannot have in Ink Bendy.

The Projectionist is just rebunkable as Shipahoy Dudley's case. Remember i listed in the previous CRT that Ink Demon has Invulnerability? What if their capability of harming Ink Demon comes from some hax negation?
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I don't think he has any invulnerability hax.
The reason people in the cycle can't hurt him half the time is because he's significantly stronger than everyone else.
Polastournecis said:
Also, did you really think i meant an entirely seperated character section? Ha, no! It's only adding Ink Bendy's png to the profile, Ink Demon and Ink Bendy would still have the same P&A and stats.
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Polastournecis said:
One thing you may have forgotten, it was the evolved Ink Demon, not Ink Bendy. Probably we should seperate this into another key. The Ink Demon is the only one to show these on-screen Low 2-C feats.
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I changed my point, but Ink Demon would be "At most Low 2-C, Low 2-C in evolved form" cuz while him pre-evolved showed to be "too powerful" by Wilson, he will still drastically inferior to the evolved one. The gap is unknown but we are certain that only Evolved Ink Demon showed Low 2-C feats and Ink Bendy just downscales it.
 
Bendynoah10 said:
And in the second novel, he hit a Lost One so hard it literally blew up from the force.
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We should mention this feat in the next revision.
Bendynoah10 said:
I don't think he has any invulnerability hax.
The reason people in the cycle can't hurt him half the time is because he's significantly stronger than everyone else.
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But judging how he is still unable to be harmed even in small Bendy form and The Keepers basically emphasized that he is indestructible, that won't be the case of matter.
 
Polastournecis said:
But judging how he is still unable to be harmed even in small Bendy form and The Keepers basically emphasized that he is indestructible, that won't be the case of matter.
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When he was forced into cartoon bendy the keepers literally said they used sharp metal to cut into his leg
 
Bendynoah10 said:
Nothing implied that metal wire they used to cut into bendy was special in any way.
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Keepers stated Bendy to have emotions and feeling of pain, but hitting him with a pipe doesn't even stun him aside from causing his head to spin (You can hit him endlessly but he would still do his stuffs without even care), meaning the damage dealt on him is 0.
If you don't know, being hit by something solid in the head is a even more hurt than having multiple cuts, as it does long-lasting damage and terribly hurts the skull along with brain. Him not reacting to that implies the steel wires are not something akin an ordinary weapon.
 
Polastournecis said:
Keepers stated Bendy to have emotions and feeling of pain
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Yeah so they hurt him
Polastournecis said:
But hitting him with a pipe doesn't even stun him aside from causing his head to spin (You can hit him endlessly but he would still do his stuffs without even care), meaning the damage dealt on him is 0.
If you don't know, being hit by something solid in the head is a even more hurt than having multiple cuts, as it does long-lasting damage and terribly hurts the skull along with brain.
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It does get a reaction out him though.
He's visibly shocked when it hits him in the head.
 
Bendynoah10 said:
It does get a reaction out him though.
He's visibly shocked when it hits him in the head.
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Not him feeling pain though, it's because of the impact caused his head to spin. Like a tumbler doll, if it had a soul, it would get shocked when being pushed and lean back, but it still won't able to be knocked down afterall.
 
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Bendynoah10 said:
The houses in lost harbor aren't exactly built well and they were fine.
Also the wiki uses these sources for anything related to stuff like this
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Did you forget that i said almost everything in BatIM was uninteractable? This counts as a graphical restriction.
Anything else, the video showed that only such loose things as ladder and unplastered bricks are affected by the impact, everything else just trembles and that's it. Lost One's houses are still steady enough compared to them as they are built many layers of boarded wood attached with scraps.
 
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