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You are the one who posted to me the link where Ian talked about the mandate dude
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Yeah, Alex. It's a bit of a bad take. It being a work of fiction does not constitute the neglect for characters and canon. That's how you get people disinterested in a non-episodic story. Otherwise, you're becoming part of the problem and are not helping the situation. It's a destructive argument and does not to anything but take away from the nuance of a story.Dude said it being a comic is a justifiable reason to not respect the source material lmao.
Sometimes you need to know when to stop
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Then you must have problems with interpretation because Ian didn't say that.
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You know I have a thought. Speculation on DC X Sonic: Wonder Woman tells the cast that their multiverse is a different multiverse. This can maybe be a hint of the crossover being canon for both franchises. DC has had and will definitely have multiverse-scale reboots many times, and for what we know, none of these have affected Sonic's canon. So, an easy way to explain why they haven't shown up is that the multiverse of Sonic is different than the multiverse of DC. It'd be easier to just say "we're from another universe" rather than specifying "we're from a universe in a different multiverse", right? Since they're making that distinction to us, maybe that's why.
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... i can only say the same to you, cuz that is like, almost literally what he said
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No, he explained Sonic is a reactive character that doesn't search for evildoers to arrest, which is true. Not that he actively avoids putting people in any sort of jail.
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I dunno why I read this in a British voice as if you said "Oi oi oi, wot's all this, then?" LMAO
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He directly says that, from what he was instructed, he is against incarceration
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How is giving long speeches something bad?
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So real. I hope the fans don't start TOO much discourse about them meeting and shittalking. Some people just don't know how to have fun with crossovers anymore lol.
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It's not? It's just not in character for Sonic to yap on about stuff for too long. He's simple and to the point. Not a chatterbox. It's bad in the context of Sonic because it isn't something he would typically do. He talks, but he doesn't idle about for too long. I will say, however, it isn't AS bad as people make it out to be. However, I will say that it was rather long-winded.
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Man, not even death battle
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It is especially when cyborg hasn't been pushed as a JL member in years
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man, why are you making it seem like he just says one line all the time?and how is this too long?
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I think it's fine. We really just have to wait and see the dynamic. Batman would've been a cool choice for Tails, but Shadow vibes better with the kind of energy Batman brings.
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I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth. I just said he was simple and to the point and he doesn't meander around for too long. He kinda just went on a long-winded rant. He doesn't typically NEED to explain himself. Him doing so in this instance would have been fine if he just hit the heart of the issue rather than going multiple text boxes long with it.
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i still don't find the problem, because people make it seem like he does this alot of the times in this comic...not that much really
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It is quite a bit. A lot longer than how Sonic would usually speak. Sonic doesn't typically fill a page or panel with text. But, again, it isn't AS bad as people make it out to be, it's just an oddity. I think people also tend to be too hard on Ian Flynn and think they need to chill out.
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I feel like some people do treat Ian Flynn like he's SEGA, sadly. He's a person, and people either don't care, or never attempt to consider that.
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the anger is on eleven
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For real neither DC or Sega gonna have either two look weak so might as well have fun instead of getting desperate overpower level stuff
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They just keep one upping each other, which is sweet to see.
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So true.
Like seeing Batman telling Shadow that he relates to the latter's pain, Sonic and Flash racing each other and quipping, Tails and Cyborg doing scientist stuff, and just seeing Sonic and co teaming up with the Justice League is genuinely awesome.
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I do have doubts of the whole Shadowism of "I don't have time for this." thing. As much as I hope and pray for 06 Shadow, he is hard-pressed to come back. I dunno, I just hope they actually do Shadow justice and not just make him too Pontaff-y or too Early IDW. We JUST got Shadow Gens, so I'm hoping for good characterization.
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The perspective of this crossover from the POV of powerscalers VS The POV of more casual individuals is... fascinating to many.
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I'm ngl we can get literally NOTHING from this crossover and I'd be happy.
The amount of seethe this crossover has generated from the powerscaling community is funny as hell to see, because for some reason people can't just let a fun crossover be a fun crossover.
The amount of seethe this crossover has generated from the powerscaling community is funny as hell to see, because for some reason people can't just let a fun crossover be a fun crossover.
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People don't go as hard on him as they did against Pontaff and he didn't have a defense force. Plus people wouldn't be as hard if he didn't deflect criticism everytime he gets called out, or downplayed it. Just look at Evan.
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What User is referencing, for those unaware, is Evan's writing of Silver facing backlash for being too cinnamon roll cutesy UwU
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That's literally something Shadow would do in 06.
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She took criticism head-on and improved him in Issue 76, meanwhile Ian deflected saying Silver was NEVER rude (a complete lie).
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Not really. He was literally locked-in and trying to get the job done and working together with others to do it. Shadow, in here, is trying to dismiss "standing around" when they're trying to come up with a plan and they need all hands on deck.
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06 Shadow was not dismissive, he was a careful planner that considered options, not disregarded them as non-important if the situation was serious.
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He literally dismisses Rouge when he saves her in White Acropolis and faces Mephiles by himself in Flame Core.
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I feel like people are forgetting he straight up doesn’t know the JL. Like, Shadow seemed content to work with Sonic until Sonic said “We’ll work with you, random stranger Hero-Guys!”
Then Shadow scoffed and walked away. Which is completely in character for him—He absolutely would be dismissive of those he doesn’t know, trust, or believe in. Hell, as noted earlier he was dismissive in 06, and he KNEW his allies weren’t unworthy in that title.
This is an extension of that. Pretty simple.
Then Shadow scoffed and walked away. Which is completely in character for him—He absolutely would be dismissive of those he doesn’t know, trust, or believe in. Hell, as noted earlier he was dismissive in 06, and he KNEW his allies weren’t unworthy in that title.
This is an extension of that. Pretty simple.
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I'm watching the scene and it doesn't seem dismissive at all.
Also with the Flame Core Mephiles fight, it's not like Shadow just outright ditched his team. He chose to go after Mephiles cuz he thought himself the only one strong enough to do so. It's not like he just left them and told them to go away and not get involved or pushed them away.
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Yet they were all also fighting the same enemy. I don't think he'd just be all scoffy and screw off in that situation. Seems a bit kneejerk. I feel like he'd be skeptical or suspicious about them, but not act like a grump about it. Just seemed a little dumb. Sure he doesn't trust them, but it just seemed like a weird reaction. I feel like he'd much sooner voice that he doesn't trust them, ask how do they know if they aren't also responsible, get an answer and work with them with some suspicion still lingering. It's not even the first time he's worked with someone he didn't trust. He never had those reactions then, so having them now seems odd.
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Again, I'm not being some hopeless doubter, I just found that small segment odd. I'm hype for what else is next for the comic. I like it a lot so far.
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