Minor ability addition (Naruto)

[AlternativePrinciple]

Pretty straight forward CRT, all sage mode users get resistance to power nullification due to not being nullified by TSO.

• Limited Power Nullification(Attacks imbued with nature energy are impervious to the Truth Seeking Orbs power nullification affect)

Affected profiles: Madara, Kabuto, Jiraiya, Minato & Naruto

Naruto gets sealing with inter-dimensional range, via magnetic release

• Magnet Release
  
  • Status Effect Inducement, Energy Projection, Paralysis Inducement & Sealing(With Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan, Naruto is able to seal away Madara’s Limbo Clones which physically exist in a separate dimension and are normally impossible to perceive, sense & touch for anyone who exists in the regular world)

Agree -Duedate8898, Neirre, DarkDragonMedusa
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[DavidTPPM]

Pretty straight forward CRT, all sage mode users get resistance to power nullification due to not being nullified by TSO.

Makes sense although it's debatable whether this is an effect of senjutsu or the weakness of TSO.

Naruto also gets 4D sealing with magnetic release

No Limbo aren't 4D…

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Makes sense although it's debatable whether this is an effect of senjutsu or the weakness of TSO.

No Limbo aren't 4D…

Limbo exists on different plain of existence, you need to have space-time manipulation which is 4D, to be able to touch/interact with them. That’s why the rinnegan can see them, So this sealing jutsu must be 4D as well

 

[DavidTPPM]

Limbo exists on different plain of existence, you need to have space-time manipulation which is 4D, to be able to touch/interact with them. That’s why the rinnegan can see them, So this sealing jutsu must be 4D as well

As far as I'm aware limbo aren't accepted as 4D and simply being on a different "plane of existence" doesn't qualify them for it.

Naruto having STM for it is weird and might need fixing ngl because neither his profile nor anything in the manga and databooks substantiates that as far as I'm aware.

Also spacetime manipulation isn't exactly an ability on the wiki so we don't really have any rules that STM = 4D

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

As far as I'm aware limbo aren't accepted as 4D and simply being on a different "plane of existence" doesn't qualify them for it.

Naruto having STM for it is weird and might need fixing ngl because neither his profile nor anything in the manga and databooks substantiates that as far as I'm aware.

Also spacetime manipulation isn't exactly an ability on the wiki so we don't really have any rules that STM = 4D

The limbo clones physically exist on an adjacent dimension, they don’t have any form of spatial presence on the nard world, that’s why they can’t be sensed, touched and perceived by ordinary means. Only space-time ninjutsu can see/sense them like sasuke rinnegan and Naruto inter-dimensional sensing.

So nard being able to sense and interact with the limbo clones requires space-time ninjutsu and space-time is inherently 4D due to there being 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension

 

[Damage3245]

I think this is more of a weakness of the Light-Shadow style applied to the TSO's which negate Ninjutsu, rather than Sage Mode attacks being resistant to being nullified.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I think this is more of a weakness of the Light-Shadow style applied to the TSO's which negate Ninjutsu, rather than Sage Mode attacks being resistant to being nullified.

Then how about EE, TSO can EE ninjutsu?

Edit nvm

 

[DavidTPPM]

The limbo clones physically exist on an adjacent dimension, they don’t have any form of spatial presence on the nard world, that’s why they can’t be sensed, touched and perceived by ordinary means. Only space-time ninjutsu can see/sense them like sasuke rinnegan and Naruto inter-dimensional sensing.

What evidence is there to suggest all this? Seems like you're jumping around conclusions.

So nard being able to sense and interact with the limbo clones requires space-time ninjutsu and space-time is inherently 4D due to there being 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension

I fail to see where the whole spacetime thingy comes from here ngl.

 

[Testarossa002]

Pretty straight forward CRT, all sage mode users get resistance to power nullification due to not being nullified by TSO.

I've always believed this to be as a result of TSOs weakness to senjutsu rather than a resistance for it. Especially when it's implied that having very large chakra (six paths) is needed to interact with TSOs

Naruto also gets 4D sealing with magnetic release

No
At best, it's some kind of NPI
At worst, inter-dimensional range

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

What evidence is there to suggest all this? Seems like you're jumping around

here’s the data book entry. This literally says that the limbo clones physically exist on an adjacent dimension.

The reason I say there is no spatial presence is because they physically don’t exist on nards plain of existence. Add on the fact that, they cannot be seen, sensed and touch just supports my claims of there being no spatial presence

 

[DavidTPPM]

here’s the data book entry. This literally says that the limbo clones physically exist on an adjacent dimension.

And why would that equate to needing 4D range or any form of time manipulation to interact with them?

Add on the fact that, they cannot be seen, sensed and touch just supports my claims of there being no spatial presence

This all just seems like a fancy interdimensional intangibility. I don't see where 4D/STM comes in play here

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I fail to see where the whole spacetime thingy comes from here ngl.

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So nard being able to sense and interact with the limbo clones requires space-time ninjutsu and space-time is inherently 4D due to there being 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension

Space-time manipulation varies in scale, ranging from minor alterations to feats as significant as destroying the entire universe. However, not every feat achieved through this ability is inherently 4D in nature. The ability you're referring to doesn’t fit anywhere within that spectrum to me, it’s merely a range feat (interdimensional at best).

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Space-time manipulation varies in scale, ranging from minor alterations to feats as significant as destroying the entire universe. However, not every feat achieved through this ability is inherently 4D in nature. The ability you're referring to doesn’t fit anywhere within that spectrum to me, it’s merely a range feat (interdimensional at best).

Alright. Then we give him NPI and inter-dimensional range?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Bump

 

[DavidTPPM]

Then we give him NPI and inter-dimensional range?

Yes I believe so

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Yes I believe so

Then I’ll update the op

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Bump X3

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Bump X2

 

[Duedate8898]

I think interdenominational sealing range works here

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I think interdenominational sealing range works here

Thank you, if you don’t mind could you ping other mods?

 

[Nierre]

I agree with the abilities of Magnet Release, you don't need to add NPI onto it. Naruto can already interact with Limbo Clones normally so if he can interact with them normally, then all of his abilities, including Magnet Release, are able to attack and interact those who are in separate yet parallel dimensions.

Not sure why Naruto has S-TM on his profile when it should really just be NPI. So I agree with NPI and range as well.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I agree with the abilities of Magnet Release, you don't need to add NPI onto it. Naruto can already interact with Limbo Clones normally so if he can interact with them normally, then all of his abilities, including Magnet Release, are able to attack and interact those who are in separate yet parallel dimensions.

Not sure why Naruto has S-TM on his profile when it should really just be NPI. So I agree with NPI and range as well.

Probably cuz the profiles are out of date. I would have made a updated profile for him alongside his anime one, but kinda don’t have the time rn to do so

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright to me.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Three mods should be enough to have this accepted?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Three mods should be enough to have this accepted?

Yes

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Yes

Then could you unlock nards profile for me.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Then could you unlock nards profile for me.

sure, can you link the page here?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

sure, can you link the page here?

Thanks

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[AlternativePrinciple]

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