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Dragon Ball DAIMA Revision

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Ednaxel2/Dragon Ball Daima Explanation Page

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This page is meant to explain the canonicity and the Demon Realm of Daima. I do have to note that this segment can very easily be dismissed upon new information, I even heard rumors of the (not released yet) extended bog movie having dialogue explaining why Goku doesn't have SSJ4 (Actually it's just old un-used footage whoops), but any information canonizing Daima with Super has yet to come. Another thing to note is this calc for Planet Mega/The Megaths is not yet accepted yet, so incase this gets accepted before the calc does then it will be removed from the page. This'll only impact the Megaths' scaling and not anyone else, who don't even have sandboxes yet, so it shouldn't be a big issue (Calc got accepted).

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New Daima profile indexing all of this new feats, I should note this is not connected to his DBS Manga profile so all of his Daima scaling is just contained here. A calc should be placed for Goku's SSJ4 Kamehameha, crossing the entire second demon world in a matter of seconds, but I want to wait until the proposed size for the Second Demon World gets accepted first. Goku shaking the Demon Realm would not fully scale him to the 4-A size of it, only partially and it would just get him to 4-B at best.

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Shouldn't be anything complicated, Evil Third Eye Gomah when Episode 17 released is stated to be the ultimate villain up to this point, which would include the likes of Buuhan. SSJ3 Mini Goku scales to him, and Base Adult Vegeta can damage a Gomah who is above SSJ4 Mini Goku. We'll also be removing Vegeta's SS3 super manga ratings.

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"I even heard rumors of the (not released yet) extended bog movie having dialogue explaining why Goku doesn't have SSJ4"

If these rumors are true, then how the heck would that work? The Battle of Gods movie has a different "linage" last I checked?
 
This shows how vastly weak they are as kids. If Base Vegeta can dmg Gomah then Piccolo and Base Adult Goku should be comparable as well
 
BlackeJan said:
Piccolo is know to be above base forms only to be surpassed by SSJ + he’s always training. He’s a super namekian after all.
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Piccolo has not been "known to be above base forms" since the Cell Games. The only Saiyans he may currently still surpass are Goten and Trunks.
 
BlackeJan said:
Piccolo is know to be above base forms only to be surpassed by SSJ + he’s always training. He’s a super namekian after all. He also dmg Gomah on the back of his head
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This just seems like theory crafting. He was weaker than base Goku in the Frieza arc who can go SSJ, and was weaker than Base Goku & Vegeta in the whole Majin Buu arc, he’s only consistently above base Saiyans in the Cell arc.
 
Ednaxel2 said:
Evil Third Eye Gomah when Episode 17 released is stated to be the ultimate villain up to this point, which would include the likes of Buuhan.
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I mean, Couldn't this be just Hyperbole?
Because we've seen these kinds of statements many times.
Like goku statement when he said could broly stronger than beerus or beerus said he used 70% of his power against Ssg
I just want say these such of statement can just be the excitement aspect rather than the literal meaning

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I agree with this anyway
and nice blog
 
TheNothing84 said:
I mean, Couldn't this be just Hyperbole?
Because we've seen these kinds of statements many times.
Like goku statement when he said could broly stronger than beerus or beerus said he used 70% of his power against Ssg
I just want say these such of statement can just be the excitement aspect rather than the literal meaning

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I agree with this anyway
and nice blog
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why would it be a hyperbole?
There's nothing within the narrative AFAIK that would side on it being a hyperbole. You'd have to prove it's a hyperbole, you can't just say it's a hyperbole and not say why.

Especially in the Dragon Ball story where the next main antagonist usually eclipses the last (outside of Battle of a Gods for example), it's not unfounded for the next main antag to surpass the former, and with a statement like this it's pretty cut and dry. Added on with Null's translation it's a concrete one to me.

That statement with Broly could relate to what Goku has seen of Beerus, and we know Goku hasn't seen Beerus' full power, which in that case would disprove of the notion of that being a hyperbole.

i agree with this btw, great job.
 
Nierre said:
why would it be a hyperbole?
There's nothing within the narrative AFAIK that would side on it being a hyperbole. You'd have to prove it's a hyperbole, you can't just say it's a hyperbole and not say why.

Especially in the Dragon Ball story where the next main antagonist usually eclipses the last (outside of Battle of a Gods for example), it's not unfounded for the next main antag to surpass the former, and with a statement like this it's pretty cut and dry. Added on with Null's translation it's a concrete one to me.

That statement with Broly could relate to what Goku has seen of Beerus, and we know Goku hasn't seen Beerus' full power, which in that case would disprove of the notion of that being a hyperbole.

i agree with this btw, great job.
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I Understand
Thank you
 
Ednaxel2 said:
That was after Gomah was weakened enough and we're verbatim told hitting him on the back of the head is his weakness
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No it was told that hitting him in the back of his head would popped the eyes out. Even weakened, he’s still considered the strongest enemy they ever faced. Idk why he can’t scale to base saiyan when he’s also a super namekian
 
BlackeJan said:
No it was told that hitting him in the back of his head would popped the eyes out.
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That's the source of his power why would that not affect him
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Even weakened, he’s still considered the strongest enemy they ever faced. Idk why he can’t scale to base saiyan when he’s also a super namekian
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He's not considered to still be the strongest enemy while he is weakened in that moment at all, Piccolo being a super namekian means nothing. Again, in the arc right before this one, Piccolo is not at all comparable to base Goku and Vegeta, this is not a reoccurring theme whatsoever
 
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That's the source
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It’s as you said, the source of his powers so him STILL having the eyes and only being told that if it’s knocked out using a method is still considered a feat regardless of Piccolo. Idk why this is wanting to be ignored when Piccolo still dmg someone who still has the eyes
 
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He still dmg Gomah though. Goku even told him to do it. He should still scale regardless
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when did he even damage him? he just hit him, kuu did the same with that book, hitting him 3 times at the head pops out the eye, piccolo doesnt scale to the daima saiyans
 
BlackeJan said:
It’s as you said, the source of his powers so him STILL having the eyes and only being told that if it’s knocked out using a method is still considered a feat regardless of Piccolo.
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It's not a feat at all, we're told that's the weakness of the eye directly, why are you still pushing this
 
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