- T0: Veldanava gave up his omniscience and omnipotence, but a Tier 0 cannot become a Non-Tier 0, wouldn't that be a contradiction?
Answer : Not at all, since Veldanava itself was the means that God used to give up his omnipotence, that is, creating an Avatar. Proof of which is that the
All-Encompassing Completeness still exists. Even more so is the fact that Veldanava was
willed into existence and was
born/created, and the fact that the form of all True Dragons we see, such as Veldora, Velzard, etc., are just avatars of their True Form. The same applies to Veldanava, the only difference is that his True Form is a bit more special.
- T0: But Veldanava describe his True Form, doesn't that mean he could comprehend it even though Veldanava himself is not Tier 0?
Answer : Again, not at all, since Veldanava being inherently aware of his True Form does not mean he can comprehend it. Even normal True Dragons are inherently aware of their True Form, inasmuch as Veldora describing his True Form, but that does not, by any means, imply that he can comprehend his True Form. Even more so, if its in that sense, even we can describe God, such as in Negative or Positive Theology, inasmuch as calling him by a name,
God, or describing him by a term, such as
The Omnipotent, The
All-Encompassing, does that mean we are reducing the Ineffability of God and can understand him?
Not at all,
by any means,
No.
- T0: As per what Ultima said here, it just seems this "entity" is akin to the unity of all qualities (one-being/essence itself), but not quite transcendent over them.
Answer: Not at all. Refer to the "Removal of Qualities" and "Nirvana" section for context. Additionally, compared to it, everything is an illusion that is ultimately reduced to itself, thus showing its superiority over everything. And as shown with Michael, one reunites with God when one is erased down to their ego and everything else [Ego is the
most fundamental aspect of a being in-verse]
- T0: As per what Ultima said here as well, God is not Tier 0 as One-ness alone does not qualify for such a tier; Tier 0 lacks the distinction between "one" and "many".
Answer: God isn't just some One-ness [All-in-one], but rather both All-in-one and one-in-all. That is, it lacks the distinction between even one-ness and many-ness by being both.
- T0: Ivarage and Veldanava are seemingly described as "one-half of each other, God as a whole", which is an anti-feat as a Tier 0 is indivisible and cannot be divided in parts.
Answer: Read the
"God's Existence" point in the sandbox for an answer to this. Additionally, read the "
Acausal" point in the main argument, which also answers this. Ivarage and Veldanava are both avatar of God,
not God itself "divided into two parts".
- High 1-A and 1-A: What suggests that God encompasses both Reality and Fiction, or simply, both qualitatively distinct layers, when never directly stated to do so?
Answer: God is "All-Encompassing", The term itself is self-sufficient when not used as a metaphor [such as "love is all-encompassing". In this case, it is not, and is rather used in context to a Monadic being. In addition to that, it is also stated that
there is no "thing" or "piece" missing for God, or that God does not lack "anything". That goes to say what kind of "All-encompassing nature" it has; It is so all-encompassing that nothing exists outside of it.
Note: More counter-arguments will be added over-time as the thread progresses.
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