Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Case and point for why you're wrong~ you think it's obvious~

Case IN point.

 

[Jinx666]

I am pretty sure for most trainers the work hasn't been done either way people just thought it was dumb that you can literally fight a god and canonically win but we didn't let them scale.

It is yeah. IT's just weird to also scale those characters that don't directly have that level of firepower, and no canonical way of fighting those legendaries

Ah yes the many randoms we have on the website. There is also the fact that the MC had a team of Pokemon capable of beating said legendary did they suddenly get weaker afterwards.

No???

Doesn't mean every single rando npc that you can battle has 100% canonically battled the legendary, or even done any damage to the MC. Just because the game mechanics in themself lets some level 1 caterpie do 1/298 HP in an attack or smthn doesnt mean we canonically scale it to the legendaries. Base stats are a game mechanic and this wiki already acknowledges pokemon dont all scale to eachother in that regard.

 

[Jinx666]

But it is canon. It happens in a mainline entry in both the base game AND its remakes.

...No? It isnt canon? Prove where the MC canonically brought a pidgey to fight the champion lmao

The issue is Ultra Necrozma & Rainbow Rocket are mandatory encounters & can be beaten with whatever, because the player character IS that skilled.
Whether or not you think a mon is cool enough for that doesn't matter.
It has nothing to do with levels, it has everything to do with the fact you can only fight Tristan as a Champion in Title Defense mode & that is how he was made to be, just as you can only fight other bosses at certain points.

?????
The wank is insane lmfao

No, just because the actual player of the game can gridn some caterpie to level 100 before the necrozma fight and still use FEAR tactics or smthn, does not mean thats a canonical event in the actual series.

The player beat the legendary, using their Pokemon. Thats all we know basically. You trying to act like weak af Pokemon can scale to Tier 2 just based on smthn stupid like FEAR is exactly why ppl dont trust this site

I'd say its more notable as a regional Electric rodent, but shrug.
But the point it's not like it's a pseudo or a fully evolved mon.

Neither was a mon like Duralodon at the time , who could compete with Tyranitar.
Emolga is fully evolved since it doesnt have an evolution line. And nowhere near the same tier as caterpie

Sorry, but what you're disagreeing with is the standard here.
You can't just say it's wrong because you feel so & tell people to accept it.

Yeah, i can lmfao.

I will happily tell you how bs and wank it is to try and use game mechanics to justify in-lore power. And then pretend like its 'canon' that the player character has some Tier 2 level Caterpie in lore, just because someones save file can do it. It's simply you trying to wank a verse and reach by only considering the high ends.

You've all quite literally admitted to only compositing Pokemon because it was 'dead' otherwise and you couldnt be bothered to do the work lmfao .Yet you'll sit here and force yourself to write paragraphs @ me.

Lay out your arguments in the proper format & get knowledgeable members & staff to accept them, or else stop talking like your stance matters when it isn't accepted.

This wiki isn't absolutely 100% accurate and has no right to tell ppl how they should scale things personally.

So yeah, my stance matters as much as this whole wikis lol. Superiority complex

I value accuracy & dislike disingenuousness, too, but I prefer proper protocol.

You clearly dont when this whole verse has been left in a state like this. 'Protocol' is just something yall have opted for cause its the easiest. Disingenuine af.

You're.... Trying to determine how much pushback you'll get on your stance?
Don't you think you already have enough info to assess that?

Yeah i do. Hence why i'm not gonna bother trying to change things when obstacles like you are in the way.

You're, as they'd say, barking up the wrong tree. "Yapping", even.
While I'm currently unopinionated on such things, & I am lazy, it ain't the call of a blue name like me to implement or remove things, & a lot of the revision posts were not typed up, nor implemented via editing by ME.

(Also, whataboutism.)

Bro talks like hes an anime villain lmfao deadass cant stand it

If you wanna get the 'verse flip-flopped back into canon split again, go type up a WIP for your CRT or something.
Knowledgeable Members, Blue Names or otherwise, assess, revise & improve, but whether anything is implemented is the call of the Staff.
Protocol won't allow you to accomplish your goals by simply talking here.

No, as ive said a million times, ive got more important shit to do?

I'm not trying to 'achieve' anything. And the amount of times you feel the need to repeat 'make a CRT' when ive told you deadass so many times that i'm not interested doesn't help lmfao

Was just trying to wish you well. Sorry to hear that you didn't appreciate that.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised by your sense of duty to this. As you say, it's not like you're being paid for it. Pardon my saying so, please, but if you find something stressful or unpleasant, it's okay to take a break.

Look at you trying to ragebait lmao. 'Pardon my saying so' deadass bro is from the 1920s

Read the room

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Bro just cannot retain any information ever given to him. “OMG the system is all wrong and rigged but my time is too valuable to fix anything!!!”

 

[Banjo77]

I mean, a Pikachu is the strongest mon Red (Who's up there as one of the strongest trainers) has.
Even in the anime, we got stuff like Cynthia's Garchomp just matching Palkia's Spatial Rend.

The scaling is bogus is in a similar sense as like, Krillin fighting on-par with Goku or Yamcha becoming stronger than SPC, but like, it still happened and has no contradictions.
It's fiction and the creators obviously didn't think it was that big of deal, what are ya gonna do. Also wow do you all respond fast

That's more of an outlier, Cyntia, season after season, was intimacy by legendary Teseria, from which dragonite Iris defended herself.
In XYZ, the giant rock threatened Megalith.
It was taken as a risk.
Necrozma was almost left without light by a star.
Eternatux needs hours to affect Galar.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

That's more of an outlier, Cyntia, season after season, was intimacy by legendary Teseria, from which dragonite Iris defended herself.
In XYZ, the giant rock threatened Megalith.
It was taken as a risk.
Necrozma was almost left without light by a star.
Eternatux needs hours to affect Galar.

Whatever you use to translate is like sandpaper on my brain.

 

[Jinx666]

Bro just cannot retain any information ever given to him. “OMG the system is all wrong and rigged but my time is too valuable to fix anything!!!”

Yeah, ive got irl shit to do. I dont live on this site lmao

Also you're one to talk when you've been sitting here trying desperately to canonize Masters EX. I can at least be glad other ppl here aren't trying to wank Pokemon That badly

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Yeah, ive got irl shit to do. I dont live on this site lmao

Also you're one to talk when you've been sitting here trying desperately to canonize Masters EX

Then maybe don’t command people to “fix” things for you.

It’s always been canon. It’s your fault for getting those profiles deleted.

 

[Jinx666]

Then maybe don’t command people to “fix” things for you.

It’s always been canon. It’s your fault for getting those profiles deleted.

Im not commanding anyone to do anything lmfaooo. If anything, i'd rather you never touched the Pokemon profiles on this site ever again

No, it hasnt. This is your grand delusion. You were literally trying to decanonize the fact in SwSh that Victor/Gloria beats Leon just so it could allign with Masters EX lmfaooo. Im happy to have got them deleted

 

[Banjo77]

That literally that is more of an atypical case when anime every legendary that threatens the world is seen as a great danger or unstoppable and a feat from almost 15 years ago same season of DP contradicts it is strange

Whatever you use to translate is like sandpaper on my brain.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Im not commanding anyone to do anything lmfaooo. If anything, i'd rather you never touched the Pokemon profiles on this site ever again

No, it hasnt. This is your grand delusion. You were literally trying to decanonize the fact in SwSh that Victor/Gloria beats Leon just so it could allign with Masters EX lmfaooo. Im happy to have got them deleted

Great, so nobody’s changing anything except what we want.

Sword and Shield is not that good of a game for you to suck its dick this hard. Do you not know what a retcon is? Besides, that doesn’t explain why you threw a fit about Calem’s profile or even why you got so mad about profiles where 99% of them had nothing to do with Masters at all.

 

[Arceus0x]

bruh I got unfollowed for some reason and misssed like 10 pages

 

[Arceus0x]

Now that I've seen what I missed I think I regret ever bothering to come back

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Now that I've seen what I missed I think I regret ever bothering to come back

Yyyyeah. It's bad. New bully's in town, lied to the mods and got a bunch of profiles deleted, now I'm running mine by the rest of the gang to make sure they're fit for reupload.

 

[Jinx666]

Great, so nobody’s changing anything except what we want.

You such a clown fr

Sword and Shield is not that good of a game for you to suck its dick this hard. Do you not know what a retcon is? Besides, that doesn’t explain why you threw a fit about Calem’s profile or even why you got so mad about profiles where 99% of them had nothing to do with Masters at all.

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"The game is not good, so therefore it is not canon!"
It wasnt a retcon in the slightest You just a dumbass. If it was the case, then all of the characters still being called Champion such as Cynthia and Steven also makes the whole ending of every mainline game not canon lmfao

Cherrypicking and trying to decanonize anything that makes Masters EX look more canon by comparison

Its not like Masters EX is anything but a cash grab mobile gacha game... Best thing to come out of it is the music lmfao

 

[Jinx666]

For the last time, i didn't get your bad Galaxy Team page deleted lmfaoooo. The mods looked at it themselves and decided to delete it. I was literally only reporting Calem and Gloria.

I didnt even LOOK at that page like

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

You such a clown fr

Ad hominem.

...
"The game is not good, so therefore it is not canon!"
It wasnt a retcon in the slightest You just a dumbass. If it was the case, then all of the characters still being called Champion such as Cynthia and Steven also makes the whole ending of every mainline game canon lmfao

Cherrypicking and trying to decanonize anything that makes Masters EX look more canon by comparison

Its not like Masters EX is anything but a cash grab mobile gacha game... Best thing to come out of it is the music lmfao

The Champions are still called Champions in their own game even after you beat them.

It's just Crown Tundra. Masters makes it very consistent that it never happened.

Do you think insulting it will make it noncanon?

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

For the last time, i didn't get your bad Galaxy Team page deleted lmfaoooo. The mods looked at it themselves and decided to delete it. I was literally only reporting Calem and Gloria.

I didnt even LOOK at that page like

They didn't look at it either, that's the problem.

 

[Jinx666]

Ad hominem.

Idc, you a clown for still trying to grasp at this.

The Champions are still called Champions in their own game even after you beat them.

Yeah well not exactly accurate is it. Thats probably because the MC is barely an actual character lol

It's just Crown Tundra. Masters makes it very consistent that it never happened.

You were LITERALLY saying that Gloria/Victor never beat Leon in the Gloria page lmfaooooooo, That wasnt in Crown Tundra, that was literally in the base game

and that they never met Calyrex???

Only someone like you could go "Hmmm, its not consistent to the sideline gacha crossover mobile game thats putting all of these characters in one time irregardless of timeline and plot, so therefore it is most definitely a retcon of what has happened in the actual mainline games."

Do you think insulting it will make it noncanon?

- Literally you not so long ago insulting Sword and Shield and impying that it is therefore not canon and retconned. You ebating Leon as the new champion wasnt what was wrong with those games lmao

Literally no one else here agrees with you about Masters EX being canon like? Its never been canon on this wiki

They didn't look at it either, that's the problem.

Okay cry to them about that, instead of blaming me for it. The page was literally barely referenced and is (still) full of wonky scaling.

Why are you even opting to make a page for 'Team Galaxy', over like, literally ANY of the other teams in Pokmeon you could more reasonably scale to the legendaries of the game lmfao. Team Galactic is RIGHT there lol. We have NOT got our priorities in order

 

[Imaginym]

...No? It isnt canon? Prove where the MC canonically brought a pidgey to fight the champion lmao

?????
The wank is insane lmfao

No, just because the actual player of the game can gridn some caterpie to level 100 before the necrozma fight and still use FEAR tactics or smthn, does not mean thats a canonical event in the actual series.

The player beat the legendary, using their Pokemon. Thats all we know basically. You trying to act like weak af Pokemon can scale to Tier 2 just based on smthn stupid like FEAR is exactly why ppl dont trust this site

You are the only talking about FEAR strats.
I am talking about how the protagonists are advocated, & repeatedly stated in-game to be amazing trainers.
This is the series where bonds with Pokemon are treated as paramount.

Neither was a mon like Duralodon at the time , who could compete with Tyranitar.
Emolga is fully evolved since it doesnt have an evolution line. And nowhere near the same tier as caterpie

First off, we don't account for unpublished content like, theoretical included, like "What if Emolga got an evolution?"
Second off, that doesn't matter. By your argument, Mega Tyranitar wouldn't be able to get you through US/UM's story either.

Why?

Necrozma

Necrozma is a Pokémon that has only been found in the Alola region. It has characteristics similar to that of the Ultra Beasts and is said to have come from another world in ancient times. It normally lies inert underground, but it awakens violently and painfully in the presence of light, which...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Tier: At least 3-C, likely High 3-A | At least 3-C, likely High 3-A | At least 3-C, likely High 3-A, higher with Photon Geyser

Tyranitar

Tyranitar is a large, bipedal, dinosaurian Pokémon with a green, armor-like hide covering its body. It has two pairs of pointed teeth: one in the upper jaw and one in the lower. Several spikes of varying size protrude from the back of its head, neck, and shoulders. Both sides of its chest, the...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Tier: Low 7-B | 7-B | High 7-A | 6-C

The gap between your Mega Tyranitar & Necrozma, is AT LEAST: 5 tredecillion 493 duodecillion 339 undecillion 967 decillion 421 nonillion 663 octillion 284 septillion 491 sextillion 722 quintillion 29 quadrillion 348 trillion 200 billion times.


NO TEAM completes that unless you believe what the series preaches: That the protagonist is a prodigial trainer & that the power of bonds matters & they can master any Pokemon.
Whether it's an NFE or not scarcely makes a difference at this scale.
The gap is unsurmountable by what a Pokemon species has alone, no matter the (non-Legendary) species.

Yeah, i can lmfao.

Sheesh, mister pedantic. Okay, technically, you can "disagree with the standard here & say it's wrong because you feel so & tell people to accept it.".
But when I said I can't, I didn't mean you're incapable of expressing such words.
I meant that it won't accomplish anything because of policies.

This wiki isn't absolutely 100% accurate and has no right to tell ppl how they should scale things personally.

But it is the standards that we follow on this forum. If you don't like them get a CRT put up, or shut up.

So yeah, my stance matters as much as this whole wikis lol. Superiority complex

Not by the hierarchy of users it doesn't, fellow Blue Name.
You don't matter to policy any more than the users you've been arguing with in this system.

Yeah i do. Hence why i'm not gonna bother trying to change things when obstacles like you are in the way.

Then since you're not going to bother trying to change things, let's you & I agree to disagree.
We both agree you & I discussing these things ain't gonna accomplish much, so let's stop talking to each other.
I ain't trying to force your mouth shut, just asking you to agree not to @ me about stuff you know you ain't gonna change with me.

No, as ive said a million times, ive got more important shit to do?

I'm not trying to 'achieve' anything. And the amount of times you feel the need to repeat 'make a CRT' when ive told you deadass so many times that i'm not interested doesn't help lmfao

If you're not gonna make a CRT, you ain't gonna make a change in this system. That's how it works.
So if you ain't gonna do it, then don't waste your time & mine talking to me about this.

Look at you trying to ragebait lmao. 'Pardon my saying so' deadass bro is from the 1920s

Read the room

Wasn't trying to ragebait.
I sincerely wanna wish you well, because I believe that even if I don't like someone, that doesn't mean they should suffer. Just because we disagree on one or some matters doesn't mean we need be enemies on all matters.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Idc, you a clown for still trying to grasp at this.

Ad hominem. Again.

Yeah well not exactly accurate is it. Thats probably because the MC is barely an actual character lol

Orrr the protagonist doesn't want to be strapped down with a job and have to go back to the Pokemon League whenever a new challenger shows up.

You were LITERALLY saying that Gloria/Victor never beat Leon in the Gloria page lmfaooooooo, That wasnt in Crown Tundra, that was literally in the base game

and that they never met Calyrex???

Only someone like you could go "Hmmm, its not consistent to the sideline gacha crossover mobile game thats putting all of these characters in one time irregardless of timeline and plot, so therefore it is most definitely a retcon of what has happened in the actual mainline games."

Crown Tundra is postgame content. Ofc the inciting incident for her to go to the Crown Tundra wouldn't have happened either.

- Literally you not so long ago insulting Sword and Shield and impying that it is therefore not canon and retconned. You ebating Leon as the new champion wasnt what was wrong with those games lmao

Literally no one else here agrees with you about Masters EX being canon like? Its never been canon on this wiki

Strawman. I never said SwSh was noncanon.

All lies btw.

Okay cry to them about that, instead of blaming me for it. The page was literally barely referenced and is (still) full of wonky scaling.

Why are you even opting to make a page for 'Team Galaxy', over like, literally ANY of the other teams in Pokmeon you could more reasonably scale to the legendaries of the game lmfao. Team Galactic is RIGHT there lol. We have NOT got our priorities in order

I did.

*Galaxy Team, but thanks for admitting you have a problem with it. Team Galactic isn't a civilization, the Red Chain is bitchmade outside of its controlling ability, and they have NOTHING near that level without it.

 

[Jinx666]

You are the only talking about FEAR strats.
I am talking about how the protagonists are advocated, & repeatedly stated in-game to be amazing trainers.
This is the series where bonds with Pokemon are treated as paramount.

You're acting as if a Caterpie can deadass be Tier 2 in any non-gag related capacity just because you can catch one and go through the painful effort of making it level 100 or smthn.

First off, we don't account for unpublished content like, theoretical included, like "What if Emolga got an evolution?"

Where in the **** did i say something like that what? Actually just purposefully being dumb now

Second off, that doesn't matter. By your argument, Mega Tyranitar wouldn't be able to get you through US/UM's story either.

???
No, it wouldnt, what?

NO TEAM completes that unless you believe what the series preaches: That the protagonist is a prodigial trainer & that the power of bonds matters & they can master any Pokemon.
Whether it's an NFE or not scarcely makes a difference at this scale.
The gap is unsurmountable by what a Pokemon species has alone, no matter the (non-Legendary) species.

Did you deadass just post tierings to make your posts unbearably longer lmfaoooooooooooooo

No matter how much this wiki wants to use its recognizably hypothetical AP stats or whatever, then yeah, theres a huge difference between a character using a caterpie to a fuly evolved pseudo legendary in-lore.
We dont know how the MCs 'beat' the legendaries canonically. Or if making a 'Pokemon faint' is enough to literally defeat it lol. Master Balls also exist, so whose to say the protag doesnt just...throw a master ball at it instantly? We can only say they fought it and scale accordingly when they do own the pokemon.

You're actively trying to make Pokemon scaling look so outwardly ridiculous its insane. It's awful the verse gets this treatment.

Sheesh, mister pedantic. Okay, technically, you can "disagree with the standard here & say it's wrong because you feel so & tell people to accept it.".
But when I said I can't, I didn't mean you're incapable of expressing such words.
I meant that it won't accomplish anything because of policies.

Yeah, im very aware. Ive figured ppl arent reasonable for this verse, otherwise it wouldnt be in the state its in.

But it is the standards that we follow on this forum. If you don't like them get a CRT put up, or shut up.

Yeah and ill happily call them bs any day. I dont need to make a CRT to think its godawful and call it out regardless.

Not by the hierarchy of users it doesn't, fellow Blue Name.
You don't matter to policy any more than the users you've been arguing with in this system.

God stfu with your anime villain bs plz.
I never said i was. Please stop expecting me to listen to you when you're just purposefully being a dumbass and acting like im tryna do something here other than call it out,

Then since you're not going to bother trying to change things, let's you & I agree to disagree.
We both agree you & I discussing these things ain't gonna accomplish much, so let's stop talking to each other.
I ain't trying to force your mouth shut, just asking you to agree not to @ me about stuff you know you ain't gonna change with me.

Okay then dont reply lmfaooooo

You say this shit and how 'tired' you are, yet you still keep replying with essay-like posts trying to talk like you're in some scripted anime dub. You can go away whenever you want.

If you're not gonna make a CRT, you ain't gonna make a change in this system. That's how it works.
So if you ain't gonna do it, then don't waste your time & mine talking to me about this.

You're the one who refuses to leave lmfao, im fine staying here as long as i can.

Like you still cant understand im not gonna bother attempting to change your system that you must rely all your thoughts on and wont bother to question lmao. Its not worth the effort.

Wasn't trying to ragebait.
I sincerely wanna wish you well, because I believe that even if I don't like someone, that doesn't mean they should suffer. Just because we disagree on one or some matters doesn't mean we need be enemies on all matters.

You clearly are when you're going "Oh pardon if i say, but you seem stressed, and mad, relax!" lmao

You keepm ending your posts like this, like you're on some moral high ground, but the only thing you and me are are strangers taking abt Pokmeon powerscaling lmfao. Keep it to that. You aren't a friend or an 'enemy' and chances are im gonna forget who you are when i start thinking abt something else.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Bro actually thinks we'll listen to a word he says after he's been ******** on the nicest and least controversial person here.

 

[Jinx666]

Ad hominem. Again.

I've been talking abt your points all the time lmao. Not like i started with the insults either. Get thicker skin

Orrr the protagonist doesn't want to be strapped down with a job and have to go back to the Pokemon League whenever a new challenger shows up.

The protagonist is your PLAYER??? Theres literally no canon reason like that. You ARE the champion at that point.

Canonically, the named protags in Victor, Lucas, Brendan etc ARE the champions of the region.

Crown Tundra is postgame content. Ofc the inciting incident for her to go to the Crown Tundra wouldn't have happened either.

Crown Tundra is canon, deal with it

All these reaches just so you can attempt to get Masters EX as dominant canon over the mainline when it is quite clearly a non-canon crossover gacha game that has no impact on the main story and exists solely to see characters interact

Strawman. I never said SwSh was noncanon.

You literally said in the Gloria profile that the MC never beat Leon lmfaooooooo. then called that a retcon. All because you think the game is bad

Dont start backtracking now. You're literally attempting to decanonize the events of that game for the sake of Masters EX, and everyone can see it

I did.

*Galaxy Team, but thanks for admitting you have a problem with it. Team Galactic isn't a civilization, the Red Chain is bitchmade outside of its controlling ability, and they have NOTHING near that level without it.

You've been sitting here blaming me on how i got the page deleted lmfao. I got you other two deleted, as many people agreed with other than you, then you couldnt keep yapping abt it.

You dont need to be a civilisation lmao, you can easily make pages for Teams too like? Its a weird ass choice is all

The problem with it is your choice of tryna scale them to 2-A, without including Rei or Akari who would actually own the Gods capable of this tiering. The other problem is yeah, its a pretty weird starting point given theres literally no other Legends Arceus profiles to spring off it with lmao. Not that it matters, make whatever page you want, but its obv that we havent got priorities straight here.

 

[Jinx666]

Bro actually thinks we'll listen to a word he says after he's been ******** on the nicest and least controversial person here.

Lmfao the glazing is insane

Ill happily debate/argue anyone here, i dont know ANYONE or their reputation here whatsoever, and they dont need you tryna glaze them as if ive committed some desecration lmao.

 

[Jinx666]

Okay im calling it a night now, dont bother posting anymore essays

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I've been talking abt your points all the time lmao. Not like i started with the insults either. Get thicker skin

Get real arguments.

The protagonist is your PLAYER??? Theres literally no canon reason like that. You ARE the champion at that point.

Canonically, the named protags in Victor, Lucas, Brendan etc ARE the champions of the region.

Proof? Hell, Cynthia even has a post-postgame League fight after Stark Mountain where you would've already beaten her a long time ago. Barry also has a fight for when you beat Cynthia 20 times in a row.

Crown Tundra is canon, deal with it

All these reaches just so you can attempt to get Masters EX as dominant canon over the mainline when it is quite clearly a non-canon crossover gacha game that has no impact on the main story and exists solely to see characters interact

Proof?

It actually continues many characters' stories that we wouldn't have gotten to see in any other way.

You literally said in the Gloria profile that the MC never beat Leon lmfaooooooo. then called that a retcon. All because you think the game is bad

Dont start backtracking now. You're literally attempting to decanonize the events of that game for the sake of Masters EX, and everyone can see it

I think a game I have 500 hours in is bad? Even if I did, that doesn't mean she beat Leon.

You've been sitting here blaming me on how i got the page deleted lmfao. I got you other two deleted, as many people agreed with other than you, then you couldnt keep yapping abt it.

You dont need to be a civilisation lmao, you can easily make pages for Teams too like? Its a weird ass choice is all

The problem with it is your choice of tryna scale them to 2-A, without including Rei or Akari who would actually own the Gods capable of this tiering. The other problem is yeah, its a pretty weird starting point given theres literally no other Legends Arceus profiles to spring off it with lmao. Not that it matters, make whatever page you want, but its obv that we havent got priorities straight here.

Yes, I am. People didn't agree with you, they just assumed Masters was noncanon because of how annoying you were.

Those are for like superhero teams, not groups of grunts that do almost nothing.

They still scale to Rei's strongest through Path of Tenacity.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Lmfao the glazing is insane

Ill happily debate/argue anyone here, i dont know ANYONE or their reputation here whatsoever, and they dont need you tryna glaze them as if ive committed some desecration lmao.

"i dont know ANYONE or their reputation here whatsoever" Then stop acting like you know everything.

"as if ive committed some desecration" You have.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Everyone calm down. @Jinx666 You, in particular, need to stop with the random flying insults. Step away from the keyboard and get some air or something.

 

[Imaginym]

Everyone calm down. @Jinx666 You, in particular, need to stop with the random flying insults. Step away from the keyboard and get some air or something.

Cancelling my WIP response in light of this.

Apologies if I've misbehaved, & thank you for your concerns. Best wishes!

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Cancelling my WIP response in light of this.

Apologies if I've misbehaved, & thank you for your concerns. Best wishes!

You're one of the best behaved people on this site, Imaginym. You're fine.

 

[Imaginym]

You're one of the best behaved people on this site, Imaginym. You're fine.

Ah, thank you very much.
But nonetheless, I'm presuming I shouldn't attempt to finish & post my WIP reply to Jinx.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

With that out of the way, is my Galaxy Team profile looking good to go?

 

[Imaginym]

With that out of the way, is my Galaxy Team profile looking good to go?

Given past debates, not much I'd take issue with.
Without knowing if it is weak or not, I might oppose callijng Akari's Pikachu "weak" (I do apologize, given the rewording was something I proposed.) rather than "relatively untrained" or something, especially if we're going to use "extremely heavily trained" for justification for Pokemon like Palkia/Dialga.

But otherwise, I have no opposition.

Bambu might be browsing here, but I wouldn't readily assume he's interested in checking it for you, valuable as his staff evaluation could possibly be, especially given the previous difficulties with Staff this page allegedly had. No offense meant, all.

 

[Jinx666]

Everyone calm down. @Jinx666 You, in particular, need to stop with the random flying insults. Step away from the keyboard and get some air or something.

I already left the convo by that time lmao

Either way, it was never just me but w/e. This verse just needs a huge rehaul or smthn

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I already left the convo by that time lmao

Either way, it was never just me but w/e. This verse just needs a huge rehaul or smthn

"I left the convo at some point so I'm immune to consequences"

 

[Jinx666]

"I left the convo at some point so I'm immune to consequences"

???

You deadass just be saying anything like? How do you possibly interpret it like this?

 

[Lou_change]

IT's just weird to also scale those characters that don't directly have that level of firepower, and no canonical way of fighting those legendaries

You seem to be refusing to accept the idea both of those are false the player character likely has the legendary and can use it battle second how can they indirectly have this level of power. Honestly this seems to be an argument from incredulity.

 

[Arceus0x]

You seem to be refusing to accept the idea both of those are false the player character likely has the legendary and can use it battle second how can they indirectly have this level of power. Honestly this seems to be an argument from incredulity.

the only one who has made sense in the past 10 or so pages is Imaginyum. This shit is why I haven't done any scaling on Pokemon anymore, there's always random toxic people trying to push some wild narrative on a verse that is already inconsistent as hell.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

You seem to be refusing to accept the idea both of those are false the player character likely has the legendary and can use it battle second how can they indirectly have this level of power. Honestly this seems to be an argument from incredulity.

Another person! Does my Galaxy Team profile seem alright to upload?