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So, while this is usually the case, there have been approved exceptions. It's more of a case by case basis.
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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread
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I suppose it is if we take in account that the Multiverse does indeed exist in Ben 10 and Carnitrix uses it as basis for its story with Alien X traveling through universes and destroying them one by one, with Paradox and Ben 10k confronting him too.
Though obviously I'd use the adaptations too anyway as the more the merrier, and Carnitrix does not have a "real" continuity, just a story that people interpret like they want. Obviously these adaptations must be notable enough (like having more than 100k views on YT imo given that's still fan content and not a real verse), but ya know.
Besides what would be the tier of that Alien X? It did delete a whole universe after all.
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Well, considering the fact Ben 10k confronted him, and ended him the way he did, if we cross scale he's likely amongst the strongest versions of Ben. Ben10k deciding to snipe his Omnitrix from far away instead of just outright confronting him speaks volumes of how much of a threat he is, rather than just straight up directly confronting him and fighting him as Ben10k does literally every other threat he faces (especially as many people fail to remember Ben10k has access to the powers of a Celestialsapien himself, so the fact he choose to deal with him that way instead of directly is a huge implication)
Also uh, we literally see Carnitrix's Celestialsapien being capable of just outright destroying Serena and Bellicus, something we've never seen any Celestialsapien even attempt before and we don't even know if a regular Celestialsapien is even capable of doing that.
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That's because of Azmuth killing Serena and Bellicus and replacing them with his consciousness, which explains who replies to Ben while transformed.
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Ah? Ben 10K was the one who reverted him, and after he turned back, he decided to not trigger the watch so any more damage could be avoided, it wasn't something about power, but of the best option.
Just because you choose to not punch something doesn't mean that you can't.
You're implying that Carnitrix Alien X is stronger than Prime Alien X? Because if so, you're wrong. The creator stated that his Alien X is way weaker than the Prime counterpart.
That's not what happened at all.
Azmuth removed them from the CS DNA and mixed it with his own, they weren't destroyed in a literal way.
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Considering that Carnitrix Alien X still deleted a universe, what would its tier be, if we take scaling to the canon?
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2-A.
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hellformer made a profile for carnitrix alien x
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but Gwen was...
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Gwen only lost because of that per ben so... Tier 4 Gwen...
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i mean Ben was also a bit holding back ngl he didn't try to kill Gwen at least lol
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That's why Ben told her she lost lol
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More like ben knew she wouldn't die even if he used his all power easily. He clearly implied he wasn't holding back.
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So, from what I'm gathering:
"You know why you lost ? Because you didn't want to hurt me, and that was precisely why you can't deal with Kevin" Ben basically said this. He'd be a heck of a hypocrite if he immediately didn't try to hurt Gwen in order to get past her, while Ben explicitly said she was holding back so much she didn't even want to hurt him, much less defeat him. So yeah, it's not just that she's holding back somewhat, she's holding back significantly.
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i mean he could've literally kill her in the end of that scene she got unconscious, but he didn't
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nawwwww
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Then why did Ben effectively say 'the only reason why you lost was because you didn't want to hurt me ?' If he was confident Gwen was weaker than Way-Big in any aspect, he definitely wouldn't have said that at all. He is literally saying if she wanted to hurt him she could've beaten him. We also literally see this throughout their exchange, she literally avoids trying to harm Ben and is only countering , blocking, and deflecting things.
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if you are saying this for my comment this has nothing to do with mine's my point is about killing the oppent which ben didn't, not killing your oppent is also a different type of holding back, i agree that ben wasn't holding back about hurting her but he was holding back about killing her
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Oh. My bad then. I made an assumption that was inaccurate, and yeah I agree... If Ben was truly not holding back from killing her, he would've just blasted her when she was unconscious.
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Now that I think about it, does anyone know what state Bellwood actually is in? I was thinking of South Dakota considering Ben has been at Mount Rushmore a lot
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It's suppose to be on New York
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Who is this DemonicDude and why did he created "this" profile.... what's the connection 
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While I do appreciate how Ben 10 is getting all of this attention with the CRTs and all, isn’t getting ridiculous that everyone in Ben 10 is Solar System Level? Also is Gwen in Original Ben 10 really stronger than Way Big?
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Ben 10 is just that OP
OS profiles are being revised currently. Every except OS Vilgax and waybig would scale to Low 5-B, atmost 4-B. While Vilgax and Waybig will scale to solid 4-B.
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Why don’t we make Grandpa Max or base OS Ben 10 Solar System level while we’re at it
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He has no profile
I have been thinking of collecting feats for the Human trio in OS
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Speaking more seriously, with practically making everyone Solar System Level, are we trying to say Ben 10 is like Fairly Odd Parent where everyone is super strong too? For Fairly Odd Parents I can bring myself to believe that everyone is High 6-A because the verse words on Looney Toons logic and there is a clear durability that puts them at that level.
It's not the same for Ben 10 though, and from watching Kuro's videos reviewing the show he's repeatedly more noted that the show is very inconsistent with the strength of its character (particularly the human ones), or in his words the show gives them "infinite strength" out of nowhere
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being honest? From watching his breakdowns is why i realised Humans in Ben 10 are just OP given the amount of stuff they can do against Aliens... The Human Plumbers specially
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True, but it’s still inconsistent, like how Grandpa Max feels old and tired in one episode but then is able knock a follower of the Great One of his hoverboard in another, and Gwen isn’t even a plumber and without magic she able to harm Future Dr. Animo in one episode but then is threatened by possibly falling off the Washington Monument in another?
In-con-sis-tent
Really though does Ben 10 work on Looney Toons logic like Fairy Odd Parents?
