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Ben 10: Ability additions and readditions?

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Celestial_Scaler25 said:


Besides if an Osmosian like Aggregor could just absorb the power the power of any Celestialsapien then why not just ubsorb the Celestialsapien mommy he was standing on and just call it a day.
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That's because Mother has two personality like other adult celestialsapiens, the reason why Aggregor want to absorb a baby's power was because of the baby don't have 2 personality, so it is much easier to control it
 
Celestial_Scaler25 said:
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation(1 layer) and Telepathy
(Kevin could lock Servantis out of the minds of the Amalgam kids and free them from his control. States that Servantis's brain blasts won't work on him and that Servantis can't read Kevin's thoughts. Could resist the Lucubra's attempt to takes over his mind despite it being able to control Gwen)
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Servantis should be has 1 layer mindhax due to he was close to manipulate Ben's mind
Firestorm808 said:
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation(1 layer) and Telepathy
(Kevin could lock Servantis out of the minds of the Amalgam kids and free them from his control.

Wrong scan. Wasn't this done by destroying the Neuro-Matrix first then "un-programming" the kids?

States that Servantis's brain blasts won't work on him and that Servantis can't read Kevin's thoughts.

Fine.
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Need your opinion
 
Lort15 said:
That's because Mother has two personality like other adult celestialsapiens, the reason why Aggregor want to absorb a baby's power was because of the baby don't have 2 personality, so it is much easier to control it
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Celestial_Scaler25 said:
The Ultimatrix said that transformation lock out is overwritten and said that the transformation is available. Indicating that the prior "lock out" code is gone.
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Celestial_Scaler25 said:
That's fine.

So invulnerability is a no. I'll remove them now.

It's done via electricity. So, it's likely via electrical impulses.
Is Restoration [Immaterial] fine then?

Nice😎

It's likely permanent now. There isn't anything that states that the effect of Servantis's brain zap is gone. The restoration of his mind probably fixed his brain.

Destroying the Neuro Matrix pervents Servantis from taking control of the Alamgum kids again. Hence, "You just destroyed your own Loyalty Neuro Matrix, you're locked out of their heads for good." Tho this doesn't stop Servantis from controlling the Alamgum kids as even after it was destroyed the Amalgam kids still rushed in to save Servantis until Kevin fixed their minds.


Mostly likely. Can we change the description to:
Resistance to Mind Manipulation, 1 layer with Absorption
(Servantis couldn't manipulate Kevin's mind like the rest of Alamgum kids and can resist the Lucubra's mind manipulation by absorbing metal.)

I think TwitterX statements are fine as long as they are consistent.

The argument was was tried here but with less evidence and a large amount of outlier were discussed and dismissed here.

Besides, even Reiner, who got HDE accepted, agrees with X having BDE1 instead.

I'll fix the link now.
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The Ultimatrix said that transformation lock out is overwritten and said that the transformation is available. Indicating that the prior "lock out" code is gone.

Besides if an Osmosian like Aggregor could just absorb the power the power of any Celestialsapien then why not just ubsorb the Celestialsapien mommy he was standing on and just call it a day.
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  1. Memories in the brain are made up of electrical impulses, not something metaphysical.
  2. The context is iffy, so just possibly Resistance to Madness Manipulation(Type 1)
  3. Do we have a clip of Servantis controlling minds and telepathy without his matrix?
  4. Metal is shown to be a natural weakness to Dagon related Mind Manip. It's not inherent resistance from Kevin. We shouldn't include it.
  5. Type 1: Characters who lack spatiotemporal features entirely, while not actually being superior to them in nature. They are simply ontologically different from any dimensional construct, but can ultimately still be comparable to dimension-bound entities in terms of raw power. Due to being aspatial and atemporal, they are obviously immune to conventional Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation, and since they are not part of the spacetime continuum, they usually have Acausality (Type 1)
    I don't think "Living outside", "existing outside", and "out of sync" suggests that the character inherently lacks the features. I would confer to other staff on the matter.
  6. It was made clear earlier that absorbing adult CSP DNA would bring the multiple personalities.
 
Firestorm808 said:
  1. Memories in the brain are made up of electrical impulses, not something metaphysical.
  2. The context is iffy, so just possibly Resistance to Madness Manipulation(Type 1)
  3. Do we have a clip of Servantis controlling minds and telepathy without his matrix?
  4. Metal is shown to be a natural weakness to Dagon related Mind Manip. It's not inherent resistance from Kevin. We shouldn't include it.
  5. Type 1: Characters who lack spatiotemporal features entirely, while not actually being superior to them in nature. They are simply ontologically different from any dimensional construct, but can ultimately still be comparable to dimension-bound entities in terms of raw power. Due to being aspatial and atemporal, they are obviously immune to conventional Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation, and since they are not part of the spacetime continuum, they usually have Acausality (Type 1)
    I don't think "Living outside", "existing outside", and "out of sync" suggests that the character inherently lacks the features. I would confer to other staff on the matter.
  6. It was made clear earlier that absorbing adult CSP DNA would bring the multiple personalities.
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1. Limited Memory Manipulation? Due to undoing the alterations done by Servantis or simply restore lost memories/altered memories.
2. I'm cool with that. It's also note worthy to bring up that Argit claims that 11 year old mutated Kevin is craziest that he's seen Kevin, despite knowing about Ultimate Kevin. Implying a growing resistance.
3. Mind Manipulation among Cerebrulcrustations isn't unheard of in the series. Tho, damaging their brains seems to turn off said control. But upon healing, their powers are restored similarly to Psycobos, but despite this Kevin locked them out of their heads for good. Implying Servantis can't access their minds in the future. This feels like stretched explination tho. Regular resistance is fine.
4. Understood. But Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation is fine due to Servantis not being able to control Kevin or read his mind.
5. The Lich and Golb got it for simply existing in a place that existed before time and the rest of existance. Besides Celestialsapiens and their are said as nebulous as their home.
6. Shouldn't Kevin then have gotten multiple personalities tho. It's made clear he can't pick-and-choose which powers he absorbs through the Omnitrix.
Firestorm808 said:
She displays strain from the telepathy. I don't see how that's manipulating the mind.
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He made Jerry curl his mustache.
 
Celestial_Scaler25 said:
1. Limited Memory Manipulation? Due to undoing the alterations done by Servantis or simply restore lost memories/altered memories.
2. I'm cool with that. It's also note worthy to bring up that Argit claims that 11 year old mutated Kevin is craziest that he's seen Kevin, despite knowing about Ultimate Kevin. Implying a growing resistance.
3. Mind Manipulation among Cerebrulcrustations isn't unheard of in the series. Tho, damaging their brains seems to turn off said control. But upon healing, their powers are restored similarly to Psycobos, but despite this Kevin locked them out of their heads for good. Implying Servantis can't access their minds in the future. This feels like stretched explination tho. Regular resistance is fine.
4. Understood. But Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation is fine due to Servantis not being able to control Kevin or read his mind.
5. The Lich and Golb got it for simply existing in a place that existed before time and the rest of existance. Besides Celestialsapiens and their are said as nebulous as their home.
6. Shouldn't Kevin then have gotten multiple personalities tho. It's made clear he can't pick-and-choose which powers he absorbs through the Omnitrix.

He made Jerry curl his mustache.
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  1. Fine
  2. Eh, maybe.
  3. You are referring to Psychobos' mind control serum.
  4. I suppose.
  5. Can you link the thread where this was accepted?
  6. Bottom line is that Kevin did not absorb CSP DNA.
  7. I would prefer significant actions like handing him an object, leaving the room, etc.
 
Firestorm808 said:
  1. Fine
  2. Eh, maybe.
  3. You are referring to Psychobos' mind control serum.
  4. I suppose.
  5. Can you link the thread where this was accepted?
  6. Bottom line is that Kevin did not absorb CSP DNA.
  7. I would prefer significant actions like handing him an object, leaving the room, etc.
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I completely forget that Psychobos used a serum for his mind control😅

It got accepted here. Simply for existing prior to time and the rest of existence.

Ok then. Kevin just didn't want Alien X's powers. Ben made Kevin build a lockout system, so he probably knows about the personalities ig.

Makes sense.
 
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jgms2008 said:
things you can also add by azimuth and for Ben if you want:
Ben Tennyson: Analytical Prediction: Devised a plan that, as he predicted, was successfully executed to deceive the Incursians.
Immortality (Types 3, 4, and 8): The Omnitrix will not allow Ben to die, even if he is destroyed at a sub-quantum level.
Azmut: Vehicular Mastery: Implied to be able to pilot a ship better than the Arthropod due to superior intelligence.
Purification Type 3: Claimed to be developing technology capable of curing Malware.
Retrocognition: Showed Ben and his companions the battle between Sir George and Diagon, along with his tragic story.
Instinctive Reaction: Galvanians have two brains, one of which is responsible for handling basic actions in case their consciousness is drained.
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I'll add this to the one I'm working on. Thank you.

BUMP!
 
Firestorm808 said:
  1. Fine
  2. Eh, maybe.
  3. You are referring to Psychobos' mind control serum.
  4. I suppose.
  5. Can you link the thread where this was accepted?
  6. Bottom line is that Kevin did not absorb CSP DNA.
  7. I would prefer significant actions like handing him an object, leaving the room, etc.
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Celestial_Scaler25 said:
I completely forget that Psychobos used a serum for his mind control😅

It got accepted here. Simply for existing prior to time and the rest of existence.

Ok then. Kevin just didn't want Alien X's powers. Ben made Kevin build a lockout system, so he probably knows about the personalities ig.

Makes sense.
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BUMP!
 
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Firestorm808 said:
  1. Fine
  2. Eh, maybe.
  3. You are referring to Psychobos' mind control serum.
  4. I suppose.
  5. Can you link the thread where this was accepted?
  6. Bottom line is that Kevin did not absorb CSP DNA.
  7. I would prefer significant actions like handing him an object, leaving the room, etc.
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Celestial_Scaler25 said:
I completely forget that Psychobos used a serum for his mind control😅

It got accepted here. Simply for existing prior to time and the rest of existence.

Ok then. Kevin just didn't want Alien X's powers. Ben made Kevin build a lockout system, so he probably knows about the personalities ig.

Makes sense.
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Can I please get your final opinion on BDE1?

BUMP
 
Firestorm808 said:
I don't see any staff comments that accepted BDE Type 1.
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Then they added it without it getting accepted cause I can't find any other CRT claiming BDE in the verse. I've got a new reason to add it then.
Celestial_Scaler25 said:
Alien X:
• Beyond Dimensional Existence(Type 1) (Stated to exist outside of space and time and that this state of being grants them immunity against space time destruction. Alien X was immune to the Annhilarrgh's space-time erasure. Celestialsapiens are born and are as nebulous as their home, The Forge of Creation, a realm out of sync with all of time and is the origin of the 'Universe' including the Space Beyond.)
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Celestialsapien Physiology is similar to the Forge itself. Since the Forge exists outside of spacetime and prior to the creation of Universe it would be atemporal/aspatial as the White-voids, Celestialsapiens would also have these traits.
 
Celestial_Scaler25 said:
Then they added it without it getting accepted cause I can't find any other CRT claiming BDE in the verse. I've got a new reason to add it then.

Celestialsapien Physiology is similar to the Forge itself. Since the Forge exists outside of spacetime and prior to the creation of Universe it would be atemporal/aspatial as the White-voids, Celestialsapiens would also have these traits.
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Type 1: Characters who lack spatiotemporal features entirely, while not actually being superior to them in nature. They are simply ontologically different from any dimensional construct, but can ultimately still be comparable to dimension-bound entities in terms of raw power. Due to being aspatial and atemporal, they are obviously immune to conventional Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation, and since they are not part of the spacetime continuum, they usually have Acausality (Type 1)

I suppose that might work. Will have to confer with other staff.
 
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