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I agree with the deletion of those DB profiles, but i agree we need more votes to go ahead with deletion.
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Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)
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I'm neutral on them staying or deleting
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I disagree with removing Sidra in particular as he is fairly notable among the pack, both serving as a guideline in regards to Gods of Destruction and having a more direct impact on Universe 7 than the rest of the Gods listed.
I agree with deleting the rest, however.
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I agree with Flash on this. Sidra is slightly relevant because he gives Goku and Freeza EE resistance iirc.
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This is not really matter, since i had discussed with @Ednaxel2 , we going to replace all there Gods of Destruction profile with a single profile for all GoDs, a group profile, of course, Beerus and Champa still have their profile intact cause they have notable individual feats. About Sidra, all GoD use the same Power of Destruction, it is not like his feat is him specific only, so it is not really matter
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3 staff have agreed to delete the profiles apart from Sidra but that’s fine with their reasoning
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I agree with their deletion, I have never seen much point in all of them having a profile. Imho Sidra could be erased as well, everything related to him can just be explained within the profiles affected, since he doesn't do anything unique, after all.
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Being fair, that is a handful of Hakai energy, which itself isn't exactly a perfect Hakai. Beerus can just literally blow that away.
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I agree with Flashlight
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Unless someone wants to do a major revamp, I feel the pages for The Darkness could be deleted.
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Almost all of the powers lack scans. Hope’s lists this as multi-city block but doesn’t give a calc. Jackie and the Angelus are listed as having omnipresence without the proper scans to justify it.
Jackie Estacado
Jackie Estacado is the current host of The Darkness present on Earth and is among the greatest and most powerful hosts ever known. He is a former hitman for The Franchetti Mafia after he was adopted and recruited by Frankie Franchetti under Sonatine's instructions at age 6. He is the twin...
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Hope Estacado
Hope Estacado (formerly Hope Pezzini) is the mystical daughter of Jackie Estacado (The Darkness) and Sara Pezzini (The Witchblade). Tier: 10-C physically, higher with powers | At least 8-A normally, Low 2-C when dying Key: Kid | Adult Name: Hope Estacado (after Jackie Estacado created new...
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The Angelus (Comic)
The Angelus is one of the two primal forces of the universe and is the embodiment and ruler of the Light. She has been at war with her equal and opposite, The Darkness, since the Creation. At some point she and The Darkness forged a truce to avert mutual destruction and in so doing conceived The...
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Almost all of the powers lack scans. Hope’s lists this as multi-city block but doesn’t give a calc. Jackie and the Angelus are listed as having omnipresence without the proper scans to justify it.
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I saw @Therefir & @Deceived3596 in verse supporters list, do any of you willing to fix those profiles or should we delete it?Unless someone wants to do a major revamp, I feel the pages for The Darkness could be deleted.
Jackie Estacado
Jackie Estacado is the current host of The Darkness present on Earth and is among the greatest and most powerful hosts ever known. He is a former hitman for The Franchetti Mafia after he was adopted and recruited by Frankie Franchetti under Sonatine's instructions at age 6. He is the twin...Hope Estacado
Hope Estacado (formerly Hope Pezzini) is the mystical daughter of Jackie Estacado (The Darkness) and Sara Pezzini (The Witchblade). Tier: 10-C physically, higher with powers | At least 8-A normally, Low 2-C when dying Key: Kid | Adult Name: Hope Estacado (after Jackie Estacado created new...The Angelus (Comic)
The Angelus is one of the two primal forces of the universe and is the embodiment and ruler of the Light. She has been at war with her equal and opposite, The Darkness, since the Creation. At some point she and The Darkness forged a truce to avert mutual destruction and in so doing conceived The...
Almost all of the powers lack scans. Hope’s lists this as multi-city block but doesn’t give a calc. Jackie and the Angelus are listed as having omnipresence without the proper scans to justify it.
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I plan on revising the verse down the line, so I would like to keep the profiles as is (not deleted) until I address them formally.
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I suggest delete Sun wukong proflie, out of context, bad translation. This profile have everything
I am newbie and not good at English so forgive me .
From what I see, this page and death battle bring real myth in the novel that is incorrect or contradict. Because China are famous for their rewrite history,religion .
I am newbie and not good at English so forgive me .
- Out of Context
- I see a lot of scan are cut out of context . For example :
- 1.Wukong never reach the end of heaven. In here , wukong mistake the 5 pillars are the end , so he come back tell Buddla he has come to the end of heaven( Buddha cant not become universe for another reason).
- Wukong cant grown as bis as universe. This require you to read full arc to understand what the author want to say , to summary after the monk release wukong, wukong tell the monk he is a big guy, he can do everything so go the the west heaven are easy. Until reality hit wukong, when a random black bear demon turn wukong into clown. For this reason I cant not upload the full arc , it very long.
- Wukong don’t have 72 live, there are 2 reason
- -That is form baijie tell wuzhin when he see wukong dead. The shock cause him cant think straight. My translation are better at this : “Elder Brother,” said Sha Monk, as tears filled his eyes, “what a pity you have to go like that! You were Someone who never aged through countless years. Now you have died young in the middle of the way.” With a chuckle, Eight Rules said, “Brother, stop crying. This ape is pretending to be dead, just to scare us.
- Everyone know 72 earth spell or 36 heaven spell. Because in Taosit myth, Trinity come to earth and teach all life spell to avoid reincarnation, if wukong has 72 spell, what about other demon, immortal.
- This is old translation and very bad translation, many thing are wrong . For example :
- 1.Wukong never summon his clone, but his child. Many time he see his child get hurt he re cast the spell and then collect them, his child also not that strong . Vs battle scane form 6 ears monkey arc , it not fake scan but wrong scan .
- Wukong don’t erase his name but censord the name of his species.
- Wukong Spell are call earth spell or fiend spell . There are no transformation spell here.
- So I introduce you to a tiny part of Taoist lore and why it is contradict with Buddhism
- In Toaist, trinity teach human spell to stop reincarnation that is not die -> become immotarl
- Chinese think they are the center of the world so when they become immortal , they go to the cloud and build heaven on it. The cloud are white land , thus there are many kingdom on heaven, many king and Jade are emperor of all heaven. The west heaven rule by INdra. Buddha only have 1 mountain belong to him.
- Jade Emperor and Buddha mountain cant be center of the wolrd .
- In Toaist there are 3 wolrd: Low world are earth, middle world are heaven, high world are the sky which are the place of true god like nuwa and trinity.
- 2 of Trinity are wukong manster and the guy throm the ring knock out wukong.
- Trinity go around earth and teach human spell so everyone learn 36 heaven spell or 72 earth spell or 18 sky spell. These spell are make up form author base on 3 world, there are no record of the spell in Taoist. Wukong use the weakest spell.
From what I see, this page and death battle bring real myth in the novel that is incorrect or contradict. Because China are famous for their rewrite history,religion .
- They write a fiction character above Trinity and Chinese people accept it .
- In Taoist, there are Trinity which also appear in the novel, a chinese write a book create Lingbao Tianzun, a being higher than Trinity and Chinese people believe it. This book also rewrite a lot about Toaist and Buddhism
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This looks more a CRT problem then a Deletion problem
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BumpMost of the angels and destroyers in Dragon Ball should not have profiles
Nearly everyone of them is just a copy paste of the same justifications with no actual feats of their own, the only characters that have presented the such are Beerus, Champa, Belmond, Whis and Vados. Literally everyone else is just:
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And on top of that they're not at all important to any profiles, nor are notable characters themselves. So here are the profiles that should be deleted:
Iwen
Iwen is the God of Destruction of Universe 1, known as "The Supreme Universe", with the highest mortal ranking in all the multiverse. He's depicted as short, chubby and covered almost entirely in fur. Despite this unintimidating appearance, he's one of the most powerful beings in existence. As...
Heles
Heles is a God of Destruction in Dragon Ball Super. She dictates Universe 2 alongside her Kaioshin, Peru and her angel, Sour. She is the only female God of Destruction in the multiverse. She's also unique in that unlike most other Gods of Destruction, Helles does not seem to hold a grudge...
Mule
Mosco (Real name Mule) is one of the Gods of Destruction in Dragon Ball Super. His appearance being that of an imp, who is inside his old green robot. His robot shell shares some resemblance to the Dragon Ball GT character Luud, who was also referred to as a "God of Destruction." Mule is in...
Quitela
Quitela is Universe 4's God of Destruction. He seems to be a sneaky being, going as far as to manipulate an attack on Universe 7's team. Tier: 2-C Name: Quitela Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Hundreds of millions of years old Classification: God of Destruction Powers and Abilities...
Arack
Arack is the God of Destruction of Universe 5. He's one of the best at his job, given that his universe is exempt from the Tournament of Power and is the 3rd highest ranked in the multiverse. Unlike Beerus who typically destroys for petty reasons, or Geene who destroys all without...
Liquir
Liquir is the God of Destruction of Universe 8. His Angelic Attendant is Korn. He has the appearance of a 3 tailed fox/kitsune. Personality-wise Liquir seems to be quite prideful in the fact that his universe has one of the highest mortal levels and as such is exempt from the Tournament of...
Sidra (Anime)
Sidra is the God of Destruction of Universe 9, the Angel Mojito being his Attendant. Sidra is described as being very indecisive and hardly destroying anything. To the point where his kai, Roh stated that Frieza would make a better God of Destruction than him. This attitude of his contributing...
Rumsshi
Rumsshi is the God of Destruction of Universe 10. He's described as being a lazy god who likes being pampered and doesn't get much work done. Which likely helps contribute to his universe being low enough to enter the Tournament of Power. When Universe 10 had to gather warriors for the...
Giin
Giin is the God of Destruction of Universe 12. Given that his universe is exempt from the Tournament of Power and has the second highest ranking in the entire multiverse, it can be said that Ginn is extremely competent at his job. He's described as a ruthless god who destroys without...
Awamo
Awamo is the angel of Universe 1 and the attendant and martial arts teacher of Iwen. Tier: 2-C Name: Awamo Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old. Classification: Angel Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Longevity, Acrobatics...
Sour
Sour is the angel of Universe 2. As such, he is responsible for attending the God of Destruction Helles and training her in martial arts. He isn't very fond of brute strength and typically "masculine" features. Being someone who rather prides himself on his intelligence. Tier: 2-C Name: Sour...
Campari
Campari was the angel of Universe 3 and presumably Mule/Mosco's martial arts teacher. Tier: 2-C Name: Campari Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old. Classification: Angel Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Longevity...
Cognac
Cognac is the angel of Universe 4 and the attendant and martial arts teacher of Quitela. He is capable and insightful. Tier: 2-C Name: Cognac Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old. Classification: Angel Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical...
Cukatail
Cukatail is the angel of Universe 5 and the attendant and martial arts teacher of Arack. He watches over Arack and Ogma and tries to learn from their intelligence. Tier: 2-C Name: Cukatail Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old. Classification: Angel...
Korn
Korn is the angel of Universe 8 and the attendant and martial arts teacher of Liquir. He is very self-assertive. Tier: 2-C Name: Korn Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old. Classification: Angel Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical...
Mojito
Mojito was the angel of Universe 9 and Sidra's martial arts teacher. He seems to greatly dislike his universe, as he was shown to be joyous when it was erased from existence by Zen'ō. Tier: 2-C Name: Mojito Origin: Dragon Ball Gender: Male Age: Unknown. Likely hundreds of million years old...
Kusu
Kusu is the angel of Universe 10 as well as the trainer and attendant of their God of Destruction Rumsshi. She is also the eldest child of Grand Priest. She makes sure to teach the gods about the difference between good and evil, though she gets excited to see the two morals clashing. Cus helps...
Martinu
Martinu is the angel of Universe 12 and the attendant and martial arts teacher of Geene. Thanks to her excellent Supreme Kai and God of Destruction, she doesn't have much to do. However, she still tries to lift them up to an even higher level. Tier: 2-C Name: Martinu Origin: Dragon Ball Gender...
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As dragonite said this should be brought in crt which you already created.
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So most of the staff agrees on deleting them except sidra.
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Yeah that’s fine I guess
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I think we still need to delete it for 2 reason:
1. Many people still look into wukong to power scaling from this site like deathbattle. I meet a lot of them on many site and they use vsbattle as source. OTher site use all the scane from vsbattle so no one know about it outdated except this site.
2. People still try to update wukong profie. Even use the old translation and mistranslation. Furthermore they even ignore Toaist myth and only bring Bubbha myth.
If nothing change right now , people will continue misunderstood wukong
So at least i want to block his proflie or remove all other buddha feat in the novel or real life, all of his ability.
He only has moutain level at best consider he fight erlang who cut moutain. He carry 2 moutain and run so that is okay but he is not run to the end of heaven, he has no lightspeed feat.
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Then make a CRT detailing everything and present your case to rework his profile.
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I think you could build a strong case with a CRT if you detailed it enough, and provided the correct translations and mythological references.
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Rohit Mehra
Rohit Mehra, was a mentally disabled child due to a injury he suffered while in his mothers womb. When he accidently discovers his late father's old invention, he unknowingly summons the aliens who caused his mental disability to Earth. One of those aliens gets chased and led away from his group...
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No scans or references, and the formatting is not up to the wiki standards.
Someone should call @57Dev to edit the page to make it up to wiki standards.
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@57Dev are you willing to fix this profile?Rohit Mehra
Rohit Mehra, was a mentally disabled child due to a injury he suffered while in his mothers womb. When he accidently discovers his late father's old invention, he unknowingly summons the aliens who caused his mental disability to Earth. One of those aliens gets chased and led away from his group...
No scans or references, and the formatting is not up to the wiki standards.
Someone should call @57Dev to edit the page to make it up to wiki standards.
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(these) (three) (pages), which also happen to be the only ones on the SRW verse page at the minute.
all the abilities and all stats that aren't AP have literally no sourcing (a couple PnA just point to the gacha game they come from with no real timestamping or anything), and the blog that is linked is just... wrong, barring the 5-B rating from Mazinger (which DOESN'T HAVE A PROFILE).
it's interpreting an in-game additive stat increase to be a linear multiplier of AP, and that's reading from what appears to be the japanese version of the wiki for it.
the SAME multipliers that explicitly state "increase power" are also being used for speed because ???
tl;dr bad profiles, nothing is sourced, nuke them
all the abilities and all stats that aren't AP have literally no sourcing (a couple PnA just point to the gacha game they come from with no real timestamping or anything), and the blog that is linked is just... wrong, barring the 5-B rating from Mazinger (which DOESN'T HAVE A PROFILE).
it's interpreting an in-game additive stat increase to be a linear multiplier of AP, and that's reading from what appears to be the japanese version of the wiki for it.
the SAME multipliers that explicitly state "increase power" are also being used for speed because ???
tl;dr bad profiles, nothing is sourced, nuke them
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How about you actually talk to @Apex_Predator_GX who created this verse before deleting his hard work?
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That doesn't change any of the issues in the verse
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No offense but ''hard work'' is a pretty questionable thing to claim when the only profiles are all for a Godzilla collaboration in a dead gacha game rather than anything relevant to the verse, even the Shinji profile is entirely connected to the Godzilla event rather than anything releted to Shinji's other, much more relevant appearances in the series like Alpha. I completely agree with the deletion with Seiji's arguments.
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echoing what Tllm said, it being hard work doesn't make the issues with the page disappear.
there's 5 references which all just point to the game with no granularity and literally just a handful of scans across the 3 pages.
not to mention, again, the stats being essentially made up.
if this is what hard work is then idk what to tell you
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Super Robot Wars in general is pretty much the biggest "Anime Mechs Crossover" ever. But the stats have always been crazy controversial no matter what is done with them. It's actually a relatively common opinion that it's a Tier 1 verse via the fact that TTGL and Xenosaga stuff are involved in the crossover shenanigans.
But it's a verse that has been made and deleted more than once iirc, and if the current profiles are still bad, so be it and we just might have to nuke them again.
But it's a verse that has been made and deleted more than once iirc, and if the current profiles are still bad, so be it and we just might have to nuke them again.
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Would you be willing to improve on these pages so they fulfill our quality standards?
Would you be willing to improve on these pages so they fulfill our quality standards?
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I will leave on a vacation with lots of other work in it on January 9, and be away for almost a month, so it will require that you all together collaborate to handle our important wiki management thread work, wiki edit-patrolling, and maintaining peace and harmony in our forum in the meantime.
I will leave on a vacation with lots of other work in it on January 9, and be away for almost a month, so it will require that you all together collaborate to handle our important wiki management thread work, wiki edit-patrolling, and maintaining peace and harmony in our forum in the meantime.
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I don't believe that this franchise is suited to be hosted on the site.
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Hololive isn't a fictional project, but rather a virtual YouTuber agency that involves a shit ton of actual real-life people, with little to no correlation with each other. For example, Usada Pekora is a real-life internet personality, not a fictional character.
Pretty sure we don't allow these types of characters:
Hololive
Hololive is a large group of virtual idols and Virtual YouTubers working under an agency of the same name. In September 2017, Sora Tokino debuted as the agency's first VTuber in the hololive branch. In December 2019, this branch was merged with the male virtual idol/YouTuber group, HOLOSTARS...
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Hololive isn't a fictional project, but rather a virtual YouTuber agency that involves a shit ton of actual real-life people, with little to no correlation with each other. For example, Usada Pekora is a real-life internet personality, not a fictional character.
Pretty sure we don't allow these types of characters:
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I'll reiterate, since this request was moved. This likely requires a thread of its own, as this sort of topic has been discussed before, and more accurately falls under our rules regarding stage personas (and thus, this interlocks with other tenuously acceptable verses, such as YouTubers and WWE performers).
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and I also think that there definitely should be care in how we treat each one in this case, as some may be involved other games. In cases like where it's something like Finana Ryugu collaborating with Artery Gear: Fusion, and being canon to the verse (or so I've researched) - it may require additional examination when we remove pages to confirm this is/isn't the case (although taking a quick glance, this isn't the case so far)
regardless, I also agree we should definitely move this to it's own thread
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Eli (Netflix)
Eli is an 11 year old who has a rare autoimmune disorder, this disorder causes Eli to endure a severe allergic reaction if he does not have a hazmat suit on. He realizes later on that he doesn't have these issues because his mother (Rose Miller) had trouble giving birth to him, but because he is...
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