Megamind Rules! Additions part 2

[Jason_Courne]

Since the Peacock show has ended, it's now time to address some more upgrades and revisions

Laser Attack Speeds

Metro Man and Tighten's heat vision should be treated as speed of light lasers, since they meet the following criteria

• Heat based, causing melting, burning, ect
• Has been called laser vision by both Megamind and Metro Man with Megamind's intelligence. Also in the novelization (page 120)
• Can be focused through a glass lense alongside x-ray vision

Also applies to Megamind's Metro City Suit

Megamind's Death Ray should give him SoL attack speed since it meets the following

• Heat based (ranging from burn to incinerate to atomize)
• Stated to be a laser by Megamind and the concept art
• Explicitly stated to fire solar energy and fire a literal “giant beam of light” in the novelization

FTL Metro Man and High Hypersonic addition

Metro-Man's speed blitz and the Death Ray's beam speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

Pretty simple, new calculation upgrades Metro Man's super speed to FTL, which of course, nobody scales to

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...amind:_Tighten_flies_faster_than_a_sonic_boom

New calculation upgrades Tighten's flight speed to Mach 30+, which scales to Megamind with tech

Megamind stat and weapons upgrade
Megamind should have his attack potency also scale to 8-C by now

• Harming himself
• Wrestling with Roxanne Ritchi over the Defuser gun and against a door, who can also withstand lightning

Roxanne can also smash guitars, trophies, and throw a large speaker so hard it shatters on impact so Megamind should also get Athletic / Peak Human lifting strength

New calculation of Megamind's Cold Fusion charged De-Gun shooting a meteor gets Large Island level, so the upper limit of his tech should get bumped from Low 7-B to High 6-C. It required the De-Gun being supercharged by the Invisible Car's cold fusion reactor, so it isn't standard equipment

Metro Man 7-C, possibly High 6-C upgrade
For starters, Metro Man punching to the Earth's core got 7.5 kilotons of tnt, so low 7-C becomes baseline 7-C

Now, a little bit more complicated. Metro Man was repeatedly stated or implied to be capable of defeating Machiavillain. Machiavillain on his own was capable of destroying a meteor (20.7 gigatons of tnt) that Megamind's De-Gun failed to do (198.97 gigatons of tnt)

Megamind also calls Metro Man invulnerable, implying superiority to anything Megamind had to offer (including the De-Gun)

 

[Arceus0x]

Seems legit

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump, simplified the thread to just talking about the stat changes

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Neutral on Metro Man/Tighten beams being SoL

Agree on everything otherwise

 

[Jason_Courne]

Some more laser stuff, the beams the Brain Botz shoot are explicitly called lasers according to the subtitles (including from the Peacock site), alongside the fact he can recreate X-Ray vision and Metro Man's laser vision

This is further support for Megamind having up to light speed technology

 

[Ebihara]

Makes sense.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

New calcs put Megamind's supercharged De-Gun to Large Island level and Machiavillain destroying a meteor to Island level

Machiavillain scales above the De-Gun because he destroyed the meteor while the De-Gun failed to, but more importantly Metro Man should possibly scale to this as well, since Megamind repeatedly stated he could have defeated or stopped Machiavillain alongside Megamind calling Metro Man invulnerable implying superiority to all his tech

Basically, Metro Man possibly = Machiavillain > Supercharged De-Gun = 198.97 gigatons of tnt

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

These additions look good to me, I agree.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Seems all good

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I agree, the feats and statements are all consistent enough.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Tonygameman]

Also agreeing here.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Reyne]

Ooh, nice, there's still an active thread.

I don't believe the Death Ray is a SoL attack. It takes around 3 seconds to hit the first time around (around 1 second the second time). Googling satellite altitudes gives me a range of 160km to 2,000km. Guestinating the beam through Metroman's perception to move at 1mps, that would make it anywhere from Mach 155 to Mach 5,830.

Sticking with the loose nature of my eye balling it, if Metroman can go even Mach 1 while in this perspective, that would make him over 2 times lightspeed.

 

[Jason_Courne]

I don't believe the Death Ray is a SoL attack. It takes around 3 seconds to hit the first time around (around 1 second the second time). Googling satellite altitudes gives me a range of 160km to 2,000km. Guestinating the beam through Metroman's perception to move at 1mps, that would make it anywhere from Mach 155 to Mach 5,830.

Cinematic timing for the most part. The satelite has been constantly reiterated as a laser and literal beam of light

 

[Reyne]

Cinematic timing for the most part. The satelite has been constantly reiterated as a laser and literal beam of light

Megamind also says it harnesses the power of the sun, which wouldn't give it the juice necessary to produce a 2 megaton impact. It's pretty disingenuous to cherry pick when cinematic timing does and doesn't apply, though the concept itself as has also been for the sake of suspension of disbelief for powerscaling bilge. If anything, you could use that excuse to beef up how fast Tighten flew away for your Mach 30+ calc.

Hmm, loosely scaling the distance the beam traveled the first it is shown to us puts it at Mach 6.5, which is definitely too low. This absolutely where cinematic timing can come into play, as the been visibly moves faster in the POV shot. Because there was a pause, I can"/ buy that they thought of the beam as being lightspeed, and like most people, would use laser for any glowing projectile fired from a death ray.

Also, there are multiple explosions after the beam hit, which doesn't happen the next time it's used. That next time also lacks the crazy shockwave. So, the first one is actually closer to 2 seconds, while the second is closer to 4 seconds. Coupled with the faster boot up time, I can buy that the second beam is weaker than the first.

 

[Reyne]

Wait, Machiavillain utilized the binky to destroy the meteor? Megamind's perception of Metro Man is completely off if he thought his Death Ray could kill him, but that he could then best the binky.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Wait, Machiavillain utilized the binky to destroy the meteor? Megamind's perception of Metro Man is completely off if he thought his Death Ray could kill him, but that he could then best the binky.

He never thought the Death Ray would kill him, everyone, Megamind included, thought he would survive it.

And all of the Machiavillain scaling / scaling above his max technology, comes AFTER Metro Man is revealed to have survived

 

[Reyne]

He never thought the Death Ray would kill him, everyone, Megamind included, thought he would survive it.

And all of the Machiavillain scaling / scaling above his max technology, comes AFTER Metro Man is revealed to have survived

Everyone bought that Metro Man died. It stands to reason that they were shocked that Megamind's plan worked, ie that Metro Man couldn't escape and was then blown up. If Megamind knew it wouldn't have killed him, it would mean that he tried something more potent in the past.

The point is that Megamind should know what his binky is capable of, far more than Machiavillain, and yet he thought his Death Ray would be more potent that something containing unlimited energy.

Also, Metro Man empowered Megamind was beat up by a construction villain? Wow

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Metro Man has been stated by WoG to survive the Death Ray point-blank, so.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Everyone bought that Metro Man died. It stands to reason that they were shocked that Megamind's plan worked, ie that Metro Man couldn't escape and was then blown up. If Megamind knew it wouldn't have killed him, it would mean that he tried something more potent in the past.

They only thought he died because he literally chucked a skeleton at them, Megamind was confident Metro Man would have survived, that's why everyone was so surprised he "died"

Megamind post-story narration explicitly calls Metro Man invulnerable

And also, it can simply be a case of the Death Ray specifically being capable of Atomization

Also, Metro Man empowered Megamind was beat up by a construction villain? Wow

The Power Transferral Stone removed Megamind's intelligence as a side affect, so he was even stupider than Metro Man

 

[Reyne]

They only thought he died because he literally chucked a skeleton at them, Megamind was confident Metro Man would have survived, that's why everyone was so surprised he "died"

Which is something he didn't question. Proof of his death would only work is he believe the Death Ray would work on him.

Megamind post-story narration explicitly calls Metro Man invulnerable

As far as he knows. It's reasonable to assume that his view on Metro Man has changed after he learned he's way faster than he could've imagined.

And also, it can simply be a case of the Death Ray specifically being capable of Atomization

As in, the possibly superior first beam was powerful enough to cause atomization?

The Power Transferral Stone removed Megamind's intelligence as a side affect, so he was even stupider than Metro Man

I don't see why that would alter his power level.

 

[Reyne]

Metro Man has been stated by WoG to survive the Death Ray point-blank, so.

Heavily implied, but yes (the tweet was deleted; VSB really does need to figure out a permanent storage for sources). This is, however, irrelevant to my point, which is that Megamind believed the beam was capable of harming him prior to learning of Metro Man's true fate.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Which is something he didn't question. Proof of his death would only work is he believe the Death Ray would work on him.

Yes because there was a skeleton with Metro Man's cape and Metro Man was nowhere to be found

Yes and as far as Megamind knows

1. He has an atomization death ray capable of destroying cities
2. He has a supercharged ray gun capable of blowing up islands

Megamind wasn't struggling with Destruction Worker in the slightest, he was literally... just stupid

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[ByArrow]

Bump

 

[Baabasaplar95]

I agree with Jason_Courne and the OP

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I agree, peak

 

[Reyne]

Yes because there was a skeleton with Metro Man's cape and Metro Man was nowhere to be found

Yes and as far as Megamind knows

1. He has an atomization death ray capable of destroying cities
2. He has a supercharged ray gun capable of blowing up islands

Megamind wasn't struggling with Destruction Worker in the slightest, he was literally... just stupid

The Megamind Rules feats are ridiculous more than anything, but it's besides my point, for which that isn't a rebuttal. I ended up veering off of my previous point, which is that the Death Ray beam is never shown to move at lightspeed, having taken more than a second over multiple cuts. Harnessing the power of the sun means nothing, as the beam's power does not follow the output the sun could have on a satellite. The satellite fires at two different speeds, with two different explosions. As pointed out, the remote for the Death Ray even has multiple ratings, which is consistent with your notion of atomization.

This is more of a gaff, like the rest of Megamind Rules (is Roxanne MHS too?), Megamind with Metro Man's literal power was beat up by a construction mutant worker. Being stupid should mean nothing (as if you could beat up a brick wall because it was now sentient and stupid).