Ego the Living Planet revisions

[DivineCreator389]

Ego the Living Planet should receive an upgrade and a new key: Ego-Prime, which scale to 1-A, and it should not be considered an outlier.

Ego-Prime​

Outerverse-level:​

• After being enhanced by the power of Life from Lifebringer-Galactus, Ego becomes Ego-Prime and joins the Eternity Watch, a group of powerful beings dedicated to saving Multi-Eternity from collapsing. In the battle between Logos and the Eternity Watch, Ego-Prime demonstrates that he is powerful enough to harm the Aspirants.

Speed: Immeasurable

Lighting Strength: Immeasurable

Striking Strength: Outerverse level

Durability: Outerverse level (Ego-Prime is able to take damage from Logos)

Range:Unknown

Ego the Living Planet​

On his profile, Ego is rated Low1-C, but I found some feats that could elevate his AP beyond this level.

• Ego the Living Planet from the future state (Earth-14412), who should be as powerful as Earth-616 Ego, has shown the potential to scale with All-Black the Necrosword.
• He battled the Butcher of Worlds Galactus, who had merged with All-Black the Necrosword, and won.

Note: This should make his AP ‘ Low1-C , up to 1-A ’ . His durability should also scale to Outerverse level due to the battle with Butcher of Worlds Galactus.​

 

[LMalone22]

Agree

 

[Excellence616]

• Ego the Living Planet from the future state (Earth-14412), who should be as powerful as Earth-616 Ego, has shown the potential to scale with All-Black the Necrosword.
• He battled the Butcher of Worlds Galactus, who had merged with All-Black the Necrosword, and won.

Was his Ego of 616 or 14412?

 

[DivineCreator389]

Was his Ego of 616 or 14412?

Earth-14412, but I think Earth-616 should scale to Earth-14412 as it's his future state. Or maybe we could make it a separate key for him.

 

[Excellence616]

Earth-14412, but I think Earth-616 should scale to Earth-14412 as it's his future state. Or maybe we could make it a separate key for him.

I don't know about scaling to alternate versions but Op looks okay. Neutral on scaling to 14412 Ego

 

[Antvasima]

You are not allowed to scale between different continuities in that manner.

Also, shouldn't this thread wait until the current Marvel Comics main cosmology downgrades have been finished?

 

[DivineCreator389]

You are not allowed to scale between different continuities in that manner.

I'm sorry.

Also, shouldn't this thread wait until the current Marvel Comics main cosmology downgrades have been finished?

Ok so all the H1-A characters will downgrade to 1-A?

 

[Antvasima]

I'm sorry.

No problem at all.

Ok so all the H1-A characters will downgrade to 1-A?

I am not sure.

@VeryGoofyToddler2

What do you think?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

@VeryGoofyToddler2

What do you think?

It's preferred that way, but it's not necessary as long as it changes when the revision is done.

 

[DivineCreator389]

So.. we should wait until the downgrade revision is done , right?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

So.. we should wait until the downgrade revision is done , right?

You already made the thread. You can go on, but, it will change when the other thread is done.

 

[DivineCreator389]

You already made the thread. You can go on, but, it will change when the other thread is done.

Ok, I would also appreciate your thoughts on this revision. What do you think about it?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Ok, I would also appreciate your thoughts on this revision. What do you think about it?

I'll read it thoroughly and get back to you on that.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

It seems alright. It does show that most of the cosmic entity do scale near each other when in times of transitions. So, Ego-Prime alongside the lesser should somewhat scale to the higher ups since they all exist somewhat in the same level of existence.

I’m still wondering how the Molecule Man would fit into this, but, I’ll save that for later.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for your evaluations.

 

[DivineCreator389]

Bump

 

[DivineCreator389]

Bump

 

[DivineCreator389]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I do not mind if Ego-Prime scales from apparently being stronger than an average Celestial, but do we need to wait for Marvel Comics cosmology tiering revisions here?

 

[DivineCreator389]

I do not mind if Ego-Prime scales from apparently being stronger than an average Celestial, but do we need to wait for Marvel Comics cosmology tiering revisions here?

I'll wait till the cosmology revision is done.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

The scaling/justifications look solid to me.

 

[DivineCreator389]

Bump.

 

[DivineCreator389]

So.. after the cosmology revision.Ego will vary from Low 1-C to 1-A, while Ego-Prime will be 1-A.

 

[LMalone22]

Fixed the contents of CRT by changing it from High Outerverse-level to Outerverse-level and probably specify layer as well

 

[Antvasima]

@Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepmeThree @Elizio33 @MarvelFanatic119 @Catzlaflame @Lightning_XXI @Deagonx @Eseseso @Excellence616 @Emirp sumitpo @Quantu @IdiosyncraticLawyer @PrinceofPein @LordTracer @ProfectusInfinity @Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca @ObberGobb @Elizhaa @FinePoint @SamanPatou @Starter_Pack

Are any of you willing to help out here please?

 

[ObberGobb]

Why can't we cross-scale Earth-616 and Earth-14412 again? It has the exact same history as Earth-616, its just one possible far future. This isn't the same as cross scaling 616 and 1610 or something, its 14412 is just 616 but in the future.

 

[LordTracer]

Ego the Living Planet from the future state (Earth-14412), who should be as powerful as Earth-616 Ego

But why though? You can’t just say he should be as powerful without explaining why.

He battled the Butcher of Worlds Galactus, who had merged with All-Black the Necrosword, and won.

Base Ego immediately gets impaled by Galactus and only actually does anything to him upon drawing on the Necrosword’s power himself. Even if you could justify the cross-universe scaling here, it wouldn’t result in an upgrade for base Ego.

Ego-Prime​

Outerverse-level:​

• After being enhanced by the power of Life from Lifebringer-Galactus, Ego becomes Ego-Prime and joins the Eternity Watch, a group of powerful beings dedicated to saving Multi-Eternity from collapsing. In the battle between Logos and the Eternity Watch, Ego-Prime demonstrates that he is powerful enough to harm the Aspirants.

Speed: Immeasurable

Lighting Strength: Immeasurable

Striking Strength: Outerverse level

Durability: Outerverse level (Ego-Prime is able to take damage from Logos)

This is fine, I suppose, but the link in his durability section isn’t working.

 

[SamanPatou]

For how many issues does Ego stay in that form? Our requirement for additional keys to major comic characters is 15.
Also, Ego Prime's underwear looks so odd and out of place.

 

[DivineCreator389]

But why though? You can’t just say he should be as powerful without explaining why.

Because it's his future state. Also, I want to highlight Groofy’s explanation:

It seems alright. It does show that most of the cosmic entity do scale near each other when in times of transitions. So, Ego-Prime alongside the lesser should somewhat scale to the higher ups since they all exist somewhat in the same level of existence.

Base Ego immediately gets impaled by Galactus and only actually does anything to him upon drawing on the Necrosword’s power himself. Even if you could justify the cross-universe scaling here, it wouldn’t result in an upgrade for base Ego.

Ego still ripped off Galactus’s arm, tho

For how many issues does Ego stay in that form?

Probably only 3 issues.

This is fine, I suppose, but the link in his durability section isn’t working.

Thank you.

 

[LordTracer]

Because it's his future state.

That’s not a good reason. If anything, that’s a reason why 616 Ego shouldn’t scale, because how do you know that Ego remained exactly the same in the future?

Ego still ripped off Galactus’s arm, tho

Only after he starts drawing on the Necrosword’s power. You can see the black of the sword spreading along Ego’s body before he bites Galactus’ arm off. So like I said, it’s not a feat for base Ego.

 

[SamanPatou]

Probably only 3 issues.

Then I believe it is not enough to warrant an extra key, unless I'm missing something that would allow this exception

 

[Antvasima]

I think that an Ego-Prime key seems fine, but not to scale between different continuities.

 

[Antvasima]

Probably only 3 issues.

Then I believe it is not enough to warrant an extra key, unless I'm missing something that would allow this exception

Never mind. Bad judgement on my part then.

 

[DivineCreator389]

Then I believe it is not enough to warrant an extra key, unless I'm missing something that would allow this exception

Couldn't we just consider this as a special case for Ego, as this is his true form? Similar to other Omniversal entities, he is probably the only cosmic entity that doesn't have peak-form on his profile yet.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that we might be able to make an exception, but it depends on what other staff members here think as well.

 

[DivineCreator389]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

@SamanPatou @LordTracer @VeryGoofyToddler2

What do you think that we should do here?

 

[SamanPatou]

I still believe we should not break our rules of minimum 15 appearances for a power up to deserve its own key.