DBH Goku vs. Acheron

[GarrixianXD]

Hope I don't get chastised for this.

Goku vs. Acheron

Goku starts in his Universal Super Saiyan Blue form. He has access to all equipment, including the Keysword and the Universe Tree.

Acheron starts in her base.

Both have prior knowledge about each other and what they're capable of.

Standard battle assumptions and speed is equalised.

The MC with the most overrated Super Saiyan transformation:

A woman who probably cannot cook either:

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Acheron BFR's herself by losing her way while going to battle area so goku wins

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Seems like a passive stomp for Goku after inspecting her profile. No resistance to EE, unless I missed something.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Wait... why tf did I put this in fun and games, goddammit.

Seems like a passive stomp for Goku after inspecting her profile. No resistance to EE, unless I missed something.

She resists Void Manipulation which is pretty much a better variant of EE.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

garrixian moment

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Wait... why tf did I put this in fun and games, goddammit.

Fixed

 

[GarrixianXD]

Fixed

You're my hero.

 

[BoastJr]

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Wait... why tf did I put this in fun and games, goddammit.

She resists Void Manipulation which is pretty much a better variant of EE.

Even History EE?

This is the first time I'm hearing of void manip > EE, I'll have to double confirm that.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Not seeing anything that would indicate void > ee in either of those ability pages

 

[GarrixianXD]

Even History EE?

This is the first time I'm hearing of void manip > EE, I'll have to double confirm that.

Yeah. Acheron resists history erasure she since resist IX's EE.

Not seeing anything that would indicate void > ee

What I meant by "Void Manpiulation is a better variant of Existence Erasure" is that Void Manipulation is pretty much the same thing as Existence Erasure in most cases, just that it has more uses.

Anyway, the Void hax Acheron resists definitely has existence erasing effects, and not to mention she resists it up to a Low 1-A level, so Goku's EE can't do much here.

 

[VoidGoji]

Her void manipulation and resistance to it are on Low 1-A scale, scaling from IX. The second she senses Goku and pulls her sword, he is as good as dead. He ain't resisting anything on that level

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Dont fully buy the void > ee thing working that way, but okay. I'm assuming this match was made with the beforehand knowledge Goku loses / doesn't have anys win cons due to smurf hax, so I'll duck out so any other Heros supporters can chime in if they want.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I think it can depend on how fast Goku can fire a ki blast before Acheron pulls her sword. As far as I know, Acheron still needs time to unsheath her katana and it isn't instantaneously like it's thought-based.

 

[VoidGoji]

Its not like she would stand there and try to tank it, specially with prior knowledge

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I think it can depend on how fast Goku can fire a ki blast before Acheron pulls her sword. As far as I know, Acheron still needs time to unsheath her katana and it isn't instantaneously like it's thought-based.

He can use a kiai attack with a glare, and his passive overwhelming aura has a ki crush affect I believe, or ki can just be used to crush people in general.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

I think it can depend on how fast Goku can fire a ki blast before Acheron pulls her sword. As far as I know, Acheron still needs time to unsheath her katana and it isn't instantaneously like it's thought-based.

Well this Goku can do an omnidirectional galactic-sized nuke if that helps. That and the aura itself is galactic in size and it can obliterate people who come into contact

 

[Killerdrone123]

Does she have resistance to passive info ee cause goku ut ee is mixture of history and info type 2 ee

 

[GarrixianXD]

Does she have resistance to passive info ee cause goku ut ee is mixture of history and info type 2 ee

She resists Type 2 Info hax from IX (tho I plan to revise this), and also resists Imaginary Energy which is type 2 information itself.

 

[Vietthai96]

Passive Low 1-C AP Aura, it isn't just EE or other haxes. He also has passive rizz, can she resist it

 

[Killerdrone123]

She resists Type 2 Info hax from IX, and also resists Imaginary Energy which is type 2 information itself.

Preety sure Resistance to info manip =/= resistance to info ee

 

[GarrixianXD]

Passive Low 1-C AP Aura, it isn't just EE or other haxes. He also has passive rizz, can she resist it

Uh... yk what, no argument towards this. If Goku's explosive aura is passive and is close enough to reach Acheron then I suppose he stomps.

Preety sure Resistance to info manip =/= resistance to info ee

Actually... iirc Acheron's EE resistance already covers info erasure, judging by the current profiles, as she resists the effects of the Imaginary Space that erases the soul (currently, the soul consists of fundamental information).

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Uh... yk what, no argument towards this. If Goku's explosive aura is passive and is close enough to reach Acheron then I suppose he stomps.

Need this closed, then?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Need this closed, then?

Yeah, sure, Acheron is pretty cooked here by what Vietthai said. There's also a CRT that pertains to the removal of Acheron's Info type 2 resistance.

 

[Vietthai96]

There's also a CRT that pertains to the removal of Acheron's Info type 2 resistance.

There are thread that actually removing thing from Honkai profile??, i thought those are myth?

 

[GarrixianXD]

There are thread that actually removing thing from Honkai profile??, i thought those are myth?

Fixing the Aeon Physiology page so it is lore-accurate enough for them to be absolutely curb-stomped by Herrschers

This is a downgrade thread. I'll be listing down everything that needs to be downgraded, whether it be hax, scaling chains, or even attack potency placeholders. Let's first start with the Aeon Physiology page, which I found a handful amount of issues it contains. I'll list down each issue one...

vsbattles.com

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Yeah, sure, Acheron is pretty cooked here by what Vietthai said. There's also a CRT that pertains to the removal of Acheron's Info type 2 resistance.

Fair