Wei Shi Lindon vs Bai Xiachun

[Robo432343]

Wei Shi Lindon (Post-Dreadgod)

Wei Shi Lindon is the protagonist of the Cradle Series. Growing up within the Sacred Valley, he was marked as an "Unsouled" from a young age and treated as the lowest member of his clan, forbidden from pursuing the Sacred Arts. After a being from the heavens descends and kills Lindon, he meets...

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Bai Xiaochun (Eternal World)

Upon the destruction of the Heavenspan Realm, his home, as an aftermath of his battle with Daoist Heavenspan, Bai Xiaochun wakes up in the Eternal Lands, disheartened and lost. After months of drowning himself in drink, he is found by his father-in-law. Spending some time wallowing int their...

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Lindon - Final Dreadgod
Bai - Celestial
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[Sonoftanavast9]

you should probably link their profiles so it's easier to access them from the thread

 

[Robo432343]

i forgor mb
bump

 

[Livinmeme]

Bao has far more layers in CM1 (like 50 vs 7) BUT Lindon conceptual manip (I think) is more fundamental so eh....

 

[Robo432343]

i think the 50 layers will be annoying to deal with

 

[Planck69]

70 layers. And passive power nullification of the same layers. And resistance negation of the same layers.

 

[Livinmeme]

70 layers. And passive power nullification of the same layers. And resistance negation of the same layers.

Lindon CM is like two times more abstarct than Bai CM

 

[Planck69]

Lindon CM is like two times more abstarct than Bai CM

What does that mean specifically? It affects reality better? It's above other Type 1 concepts?

And does Lindon handle the passive deconstruction well enough?

 

[Livinmeme]

What does that mean specifically? It affects reality better? It's above other Type 1 concepts?

It is above type one concepts in the same way that a type one is above a type two

And does Lindon handle the passive deconstruction well enough?

AE that it is also based one the same more abstract concept.

 

[Planck69]

It is above type one concepts in the same way that a type one is above a type two

AE that it is also based one the same more abstract concept.

Noted, but I'm not entirely seeing how that's a massive multi-layer spanning difference. The difference between Type 1 and 2 is largely in dependence on their object. Not to mention, Bai can strip resistances away with Divine Sense.

I see.

 

[Livinmeme]

Noted, but I'm not entirely seeing how that's a massive multi-layer spanning difference. The difference between Type 1 and 2 is largely in dependence on their object. Not to mention, Bai can strip resistances away with Divine Sense.

I see.

Also this will be an stomp because Wei Shi lindon conceptual manipulation is probably going to be outversal soon.

 

[Livinmeme]

minor Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1): Soul Formation cultivators can manifest domains, special areas around them that separate the world within them from the world outside them, and are possessed of a Dao comprehended based on the life experiences used by that cultivator to comprehend the Heavens

This doesn't look like type one, just because the concepts are based on other universe doesn't make them not dependant on that universe, much less more abstract, and there is nothing implying that those concepts aren't bound by those mini pocket dimensions.

 

[Planck69]

This doesn't look like type one, just because the concepts are based on other universe doesn't make them not dependant on that universe, much less more abstract, and there is nothing implying that those concepts aren't bound by those mini pocket dimensions.

Daos/Essences are Type 1, but these are very limited expressions of that, lacking even the smurfery of the Third Step.

 

[Livinmeme]

Daos/Essences are Type 1, but these are very limited expressions of that, lacking even the smurfery of the Third Step.

Daos are type one because they are unbound by the thing they govern mostly by virtue of being outversal, those mini domains don't look like are trascendental in any way.
PD: There isn't even any mention of conceptual manipulation, not even abstraction, how the **** was this accepted with the current justification.

 

[Planck69]

Daos are type one because they are unbound by the thing they govern mostly by virtue of being outversal, those mini domains don't look like are trascendental in any way.

What does this even mean? These domains are manifested from Daos that a cultivator comprehends in limited manner in the first step, like life and death, illusion, karma etc. To the point that these domains become said Daos/Essences in full at the 3rd Step via further comprehension.

And Daos are Type 1 because they're stated verbatim unbound by reality. The tier is largely incidental.

 

[Planck69]

Also this will be an stomp because Wei Shi lindon conceptual manipulation is probably going to be outversal soon.

You should get that accepted by even a single staff before throwing it about.

 

[Livinmeme]

What does this even mean? These domains are manifested from Daos that a cultivator comprehends in limited manner. To the point that these domains become said Daos/Essences at the 3rd Steo.

And Daos are Type 1 because they're stated verbatim unbound by reality.

Oh yeah, my fault for going with what was crearly presentend, instead of reading every single profile on ergen to piece the information needed, to assume how that works. Also

manifested from Daos

that just means that they are abstract in a void, not that they are able to manipulate concepts in a way that matters

become Dao/Essences at the 3rd step.

Cool, we aren't doing a match in third step

 

[Livinmeme]

You should get that accepted by even a single staff before throwing it about.

Outversal CRT are dead on the water for not popular verses.

 

[Planck69]

Cool, we aren't doing a match in third step

....Yeah, that's why it's minor Type 1? And not the full power of a Dao, which would be 1-A? What is this supposed to counter?

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[Livinmeme]

....Yeah, that's why it's minor Type 1? And not the full power of a Dao, which would be 1-A? What is this supposed to counter?

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I don't think you understood me

 

[Robo432343]

i think bai wins because more layers