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Equal Stats enemy duos tournament, 2-1: 2 and 4 vs 2 of the 4
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So how exactly are Kaidou and Big Mom supposed to counter BFR? Four is especially willing to do it if he's pissed off for long enough as he did with Profily.
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How does it work? Big Mom and Kaidou could passively resist getting spatially BFR'd, so that could help here.
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Four has 2 variants of his BFR: One where he sends his targets to the pocket dimension inside his body with a thought (Albeit he needs to be at close range), and one where he snaps his fingers to cause his opponent to float helplessly to the Big Rotating Building where they are locked inside a cage they can't escape from (With a range of ~2760 miles).
Two's BFR on the other hand typically works by having a part of his body cover up the target they are trying to eliminate to their perspective to send them to some unknown location that appears to be an upside down hotel (dimension?) in the clouds, though they can also do this by simply pushing their target back with their telekinesis as they did when they eliminated Eggy.
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That is pretty serious. Fans of the series: how scared would they be, in character?
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How do they do it?
If you're referring to me, IIRC Four is hardly ever scared, though Two may freak out if a comrade of theirs gets tortured in front of them as they did when Robot Flower burnt Basketball alive in front of Two in TPOT 8.
Takt is Spatial Manipulation that causes displacement, I don't really see anything that even warrants it being BFR (That ability isn't even listed on either one's profiles let alone the Hakis page anyways). As for Shambles, it simply appears to be opening the ground, but Four's BFR is capable of telekinetically making them float. As a matter of fact, neither Four nor Two's BFR are spatial-based.
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It works via fear installation. Due to Big Mom's Haōshoku Haki and 2+4's lack of Supernatural Willpower and Resistance to Fear Manipulation, they will get their souls stolen as soon as the match starts (it's a starting move for Big Mom)
Takt is telekinesis and is listed as such in Law's powers and abilities section.
Shambles is teleportation, I'm not sure where you got him opening the ground from. Law simply teleported the people below him.
Big Mom and Kaidou still resist Law's Takt, which is telekinesis.
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Is this passive? Because if it is, then that's kinda unfair to a majority of these combatants who can't resist it.
Anyways, if BFR doesn't work, there are definitely other things they do. Two is able to turn themselves intangible to avoid being hit (Even from those who have NPI) while Four has the ability to mutilate targets with a touch to instantly kill them and even the ability to knock his targets out of cold by screeching when close up (To which those who withstood the sound of crashing into the sun loud enough to be heard from outside of space [Akin to say a meteor impact but faster] have been affected by it).
And then there's also Four growing up to 6 times the size of the sun. If he's offended for long enough or he sees the two as too much of a threat, he's going to grow up to that size to which neither of the two have the range to affect him.
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The fear installation effect of Haōshoku is passive for both Big Mom and Kaidou as long as they coat on their weapons, which they often do when fighting seriously. The soul hax is only passive when in her Soul Amped form. In her 3-Homie form she has to actively grab your soul and install fear. However, this is a starting move for her so depending on how the fight plays it may not be an instant win.
Both Big Mom and Kaidou have layered NPI and Intangibility Negation, so that won't help them. On top of that, Big Mom would still be capable of interacting with 2's soul.
They also resist transmutation via Kalifa's abilities. They also resist sleep manipulation/coma inducement via withstanding both their own and others' Haōshoku Haki bursts.
Whether or not the sound manipulation would even effect Big Mom and Kaidou due to them each having very good sound manipulation themselves, they are able to tank having their hearts completely ruptured and laugh it off, and Big Mom can outright heal from the damage by animating the damaged tissue.
Kaidou can simply just coat himself in massive flame clouds that will vaporize Four if he tries to touch him at that size. This would also just make him a bigger target for Big Mom's soul hax.
