Cool paragraph but Yamato is hot so I'm voting her
Yamato takes AP, but you said some false things here.
Yamato does not take speed. They combat and reactions speeds are relative. Again, noting this stat as an advantage for her does not make sense to me.
Winch Queen greatly increases strength and he was specifically noted by Sanji to have heavy attacks, so much so that he could knock Sanji far away even when he blocked. Yamato doesn't really have any notable LS feats or amps and failed to stop the force behind a no haki 1-armed air blast from Kaidou. If anything Queen takes this.
I'd say Queen. Queen is good at mixing together his wide variety of attacks into his fighting style while Yamato is pretty "oonga boonga" comparatively.
I don't think that's a valid weakness. It's (again) completely made up. If it was genuinely a weakness to Queen then not only would Sanji have pointed it out but he definitely would have cyborgified that area to make up for it.
How does this go to anyone in particular? They're pretty even imo. Yamato can freeze people with long ranged breath attacks and Queen can detach his body and crush people with enough pressure to oneshot even Buso masters.
Kenbun honestly goes to Queen, but I'll say even just because it's kind of speculative.
She was clowning on him. Even if he's comparable, he's still inferior. She slammed his face into the ground, spun him around, tossed him into the wall, and he played dead. (Sidenote, that face when she realized there was no food is very funny)
He baited her with food to let her guard down, got a sneak attack with Brachio Bomber, and then she turned around, remembered her past, and then fell into a peaceful sleep, actively smiling. Queen himself was confused by what just happened, and still freaking out. He literally called for 100 Seastone Chain wrappings and 100 animal sedatives, and for basically everyone to come with him, and even then, he said that if she woke up, all of them would be dead. He was fully aware that he got lucky.
He said that it would be hard to hold off 2 of them, and Queen was getting staggered repeatedly every time Marco hit him.
He has never shown that his was a comparable stat amp. Probably is, but it might not be.
Why on Earth would that not matter? He's faster than Niji, so if it's additive, it would not be siginificant.
Yeah, I forgot about Winch.
Perhaps.
We have it on the profile, we should probably remove it.
Well, I think the Ice Armor would be particularly useful, especially considering the Ice Substitution Jutsu.
That does not mean he's inferior. It means that he has good enough durability to take her attacks and get up. Especially not when he returned the favor right after and arguably cracked her head without any damage on himself.
You're proving my point. The fact that Queen was able to take her attacks and knock her out and yet was still that scared just proves that his reaction was both very dramatic (it's almost as if that's one of his character traits) and irrationally just based off of her infamy.
He said that it is hard, not that it would be hard. He said this after failing to deal damage to Queen. Marco hit Queen off-guard both times so saying that he was "staggered" is a non-argument as that's the expected reaction of being hit in that way. The reality of the situation is that Marco's attacks didn't hit hard enough to more than bother Queen.
A comparable stat amp to what, Niji's? Queen quite literally studied Judge's science and made better versions by adding own science.
I'm not saying that it does not matter. I'm saying that it's needless speculation that doesn't apply to this situation because Henry Queen is Niji's Henry Blazer simply scaled to Queen's level of science.
It was added by Eseseso without a CRT. I'll remove it right now.
It's not a Substitution Jutsu-type ability. it's literally just an armor. Sure it's useful but not enough to give her any specific advantage. Their respective devil fruits give each good perks:
To be fair, it's easy to dodge his longer range stuff, for example most people typically aren't hit by his lasers and bullets and what not. It's the fact that, as I mentioned in the post above, he will actively try to surprise you with another attack while you're still dodging those projectiles that's really annoying.
I disagree with this part of the analysis. What makes it hard for Yamato to be able to put Queen down outside of endurance is the fact that he can pretty much spawn dozens of lasers from any angle at any moment while also being able to manipulate poison and viruses with his physical attacks that also come from outside of Yamato's combat range.
You're right, but I did mention that he's got a lot of stuff that Yamato would struggle to deal with (this is actually one of the main reasons I didn't just vote Yamato high diff and call it a day), though she could always try to shatter/break his weapons like Sanji did with his sword and one of his mech arms. Wouldn't be a game changer, but it would make it a bit easier for her.
I'd say it's pretty easy to dodge to a certain extent. People like Zoro, Marco, and Chopper have been shown to be able to avoid single-shot lasers or a few lasers albeit with difficulty, but when we talk about when he actually starts spamming, he was able to pressure even Sanji who was faster, more mobile, an had better kenbun than all 3 of them.
I don't think she can do this. Sanji was able to shatter his sword because of the hardness of his skin, which Yamato doesn't have and doesn't really translate to AP. Because of this, it's unknown whether she can outright break it easily.
Okay, so, a good counter to that would be to just constantly coat her self in Armament Haki and ice and try to make ice structures to block some of the attacks, which wouldn't completely nullify his barrages but it'd definitely help her get to the meat and potatoes so to speak.
One: Again, she could just use the ice armor and/or Armament Haki, which should be enough to shatter (or at least block) the sword.
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Coating herself and Buso would not help her tank lasers, and especially not tens if not hundreds landing at the same time and her ice structures are nowhere large enough to block 100s of meters worth of resulting AoE.
She can block the sword. I do not think she can outright shatter it without an empowered attack. Hits in attack exchanges aren't going to shatter his blades.
Sanji when in his Exoskeleton and Diable Jambe was able to destroy Queen's arm with an explicit attack meant to do so. Niether his nor Yamato's normal attacks would be hitting that hard. She'd need to be put in a position where Queen's limbs are just open for her to throw out an attack with more strength, which won't happen at all here.
This is all somewhat fair, but I don't know why you're assuming Queen would use his invisibility here, since he's hardly ever used it in canon (he only used it once in a real fight and that wasn't even to attack Sanji, he went after a geisha soon after activating it).
I'm assuming Queen will use his invisibility for the same reason I'm assuming he will use all the other abilities in his arsenal. The moment he went serious he used the Germa abilities including Stealth Black's. Queen was originally meaning to attack him, but because Sanji went invisible as well he decided to wait until he reappeared.
You're just objectively wrong. Chopper dodged a single Black Coffee straight shot beam that came from an upside down Queen. Using that to say that Queen's "rain of lasers" that he can and does shoot nigh-infinitely is a non-factor for Yamato who hasn't shown any above average dodging ability on the level of someone like Chopper.
btw who are you voting
Neutral for now, leaning Yamato.
Same here. I'd vote Yamato but I've admittedly hit a brick wall with Queen's versatility, since it's kind of hard to figure out a way for Yamato to get past all of his tech/hax. I'll try to think of an argument for that when I get some free time later today or tomorrow.
And? Queen is much thicker than her. I thought you'd have known this, I'm genuinely disappointed in you.
Greenbull might disagree.
Is this a vote for Queen
He says that he thinks Queen is more likely to win, so yes
