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Continuation of this thread.
Additional profile ratings/scans to add
This is done to replace the vague scaling of them "being comparable to x" and add variety to their profiles, since literally 90% of them just say this and that's it. This will only be for the Garden Warfare/Heroes keys/characters.
Scans:
Spawnables/Cards downgrade
Our current reasoning for spawnables/cards such as Weeds, Pea Cannon, etc. is because they can somewhat harm the other characters in game (not sufficient enough evidence anyways)
They have shown to be cannon fodder many times as well, Weeds (both card and spawnable) are shown to easily get taken out by many zombie heroes/playable zombies:
The Spawnables who should stay at their current tiers is PvZH Melon-pult and Bonk Choy, as Bonk Choy can harm Z-Mech Imps and Melon-pult can kill Foot Soldiers. As well as Exploding Imp/Imp-punt since he can one-shot hero plants like Sunflower, as shown in the previous section.
Minor ability additions
Additional profile ratings/scans to add
This is done to replace the vague scaling of them "being comparable to x" and add variety to their profiles, since literally 90% of them just say this and that's it. This will only be for the Garden Warfare/Heroes keys/characters.
Scans:
- Sunflower can withstand All-Star's tackle
- All-Star can tank Shuck Shots from Kernel Corn
- All-Star has the highest health out of any zombie
- All-Star using his Football Cannon can take down Sunflowers and Pea Cannons (for his AP section)
- All-Star can knock-out Sunflowers with his tackle (for his Striking Strength section)
- Peashooter can harm All-Star/All-Star can withstand peas
- Peashooter can harm Foot Soldiers/Foot Soldiers can withstand peas
- Peashooter can send Z-Mech Imps flying/Imps can withstand peas
- Peashooter can stagger Gargantuars and make them put their guard up/Gargantuars can tank peas
- Peashooter can dodge attacks from Gargantuars
- Peashooter and Scientist are implied to rival reach other or at least have fought
- Scientist can kill a Bonk Choy
- Foot Soldier is comparable to General Supremo who can withstand peas
- Cactus and Chomper can scare away a crowd of Imps
- Chomper has overpowered a Foot Soldier, twice
- Peashooter, Toxic Pea, Ice Pea, Chomper, Sunflower and Rose can keep up with Hot Rod Chomper
- Electro Brainz saw the electric plant variants (including Power Chomper) as a threat and needed the help of a Top Zombie recruit to help defeat them
- Sunflower, Peashooter, Cactus and Chomper can withstand a shockwave from Super Brainz that harmed Rose
- Torchwood can harm Breakfast Brainz. His Giga self should be comparable
- Torchwood can withstand attacks from Hover Goat 3000. His Giga self should be comparable
- Cactus can take out a Pylon Mech
- Z-Mechs could be the key to winning the Battle of Zomburbia
- Z-Mech can kick Citron into space. Reacted to and countered Citron's ball form charging at him, Imp performed this feat while piloting the Z-Mech so this should scale to him too
- Citron can fight Z-Mechs
- Z-Mech was a threat to Green Shadow, Solar Flare and Spudow. Punched away Chompzilla
- Z-Mechs can punch away Tall-nuts and somewhat crack them
- Green Shadow can harm Super Brainz and The Smash
- Green Shadow countered an in-coming attack from Super Brainz
- Cactus took an attack from Z-Mech
- Green Shadow and Citron can dodge attacks from Z-Mech
- Citron is shown dodging an attack here again
- Green Shadow and Solar Flare can evade attacks from Z-Mech
- Night Cap can take out groups of Z-Mech Imps/blitzed numerous Z-Mech Imps
- Night Cap can evade 80s Action Hero's attacks
- Variants should scale to their normal counterparts
- Acorn can outrun Engineer's Jackhammer and evade lasers from Space Cadet
- Oak one-shot Engineer
- Solar Flare can withstand a hit from The Smash to a greater extent than Green Shadow
- Oak overpowered and scared off Space Cadet, 80s Action Hero, Foot Soldier and Captain Deadbeard
- Oak landed attacks on 80s Action Hero, Space Cadet and Foot Soldier
- Kernel Corn took out a Foot Soldier and Astraunout. Was surrounded by Gargantuars yet survived
- Future Cactus was briefly shown fighting Welder
- Rose can dodge Captain Deadbeard's Spyglass Shot and tennis balls from Tennis Star
- Super Brainz can react to and counter Rose's Goatify, Green Shadow's peas and Grass Knuckles' punches
- Snap Dragon can harm 80s Action Hero and Imp
- Captain Deadbeard scared off a Cactus, Sunflower and Peashooter
- Sunflower Queen fought a Top Zombie recruit twice, and nearly won the second time if it wasn't for Gargantuar's bomb vanquishing her
- Royal-Hypno Flower is the final boss against the player in the zombie missions, that also required the most preparation
- Squash is an obstacle towards the player in both Garden Warfare 2 and Battle for Neighborville's campaigns
- Giga Gargantuar is a super charged version of regular Gargantuar
- Imp's blasts should have a higher rating, as it scales above his physicals
- Foot Soldier's ZPG should have a higher rating, as it can one-shot any plant. One-shot Sunflower
- Citron's Peel Shield should have a higher rating as it can withstand missiles and is used for cover
- Citron's Spin Dash should have a higher rating as it can easily destroy Z-Mechs
- Cactus' Potato Mines should have a higher rating, as even the weakest ones still blow zombies sky high with it being shown doing that to Sanitation Expert, and deals more damage in-game
- Cactus' Tall-nuts should have a higher rating, as Foot Soldiers can't get passed them physically and they can somewhat withstand attacks from Z-mech. Are used for cover
- Peashooter's Chili Bean Bombs should have a higher rating, as they deal massive damage to all surrounding zombies, and deals more damage in-game
- Peashooter's hyper and pea-suped abilities should have a higher rating for speed as they're stated to either boost it or "allow him to run incredibly fast"
- Sunflower's Sunbeam should have a higher rating, as it is a devastating beam of light towards zombies and deals more in-game damage (this is not to confuse with her Solar Flare Beam)
- Scientist's Sticky Explody Balls should have a higher rating, as they can one-shot Cactus
- All-Star's Imp punt should have a higher rating for one-shotting a Cactus and Scaredy-shroom, deals more in-game damage too
- All-Star's Dummy Shield should have a higher rating for durability as it's used for cover
- Super Brainz' Super Ultra Balls should have a far higher rating, as they're the ultimate plant-stopping projectile putting it above Foot Soldier's ZPG
- Kernel Corn's Shuck Shot should have a higher rating as they're a charged up version of his normal primary weapon. Took out two Foot Soldiers from afar
- Kernel Corn's Butter Barrage should have an "far higher" rating as it can take down All-Star even though he can tank his Shuck Shot
- Gargantuar should have a higher rating with his Bomb as it killed both him and Queen Sunflower
- Chompers should have a higher speed rating with Sprint Burrow as it's stated to increase speed outright
Spawnables/Cards downgrade
Our current reasoning for spawnables/cards such as Weeds, Pea Cannon, etc. is because they can somewhat harm the other characters in game (not sufficient enough evidence anyways)
They have shown to be cannon fodder many times as well, Weeds (both card and spawnable) are shown to easily get taken out by many zombie heroes/playable zombies:
- Z-Mech Imp fodderizing Weeds/Dandelion Weeds
- Super Brainz fodderizing Weeds
- Captain Deadbeard fodderizing Weeds, even taking on a whole squadron of them
The Spawnables who should stay at their current tiers is PvZH Melon-pult and Bonk Choy, as Bonk Choy can harm Z-Mech Imps and Melon-pult can kill Foot Soldiers. As well as Exploding Imp/Imp-punt since he can one-shot hero plants like Sunflower, as shown in the previous section.
Minor ability additions
- An additional ability for Imp should be dimensional storage, as Porter Imps can fit groups of zombies into a small tent.
- Super Brainz should have homing via Super Guided Ultra Ball as it follows plants.
- Z-Mech should having homing via missiles as they automatically follow plants.
- Night Cap should have stealth mastery as he excels at it. The scan also says he excels at mobility which should be added to his acrobatics, as well as the fact that he can double jump.
- Super Brainz should have damage boost and aura via Brainium Basher 9001.
- Rose has immortality on her profile, however the justifcation is just that she's called the "Immortal Rose" which doesn't even specify what type of immortality she has and can just be an outlier, this should be removed.
- Bamboo Shoot has Danmaku however it's never shown that he can shoot out 20-25 projectiles at once, only several so this should be removed.
- Imps can lift Gargantuars which should make them Superhuman, which should also upscale Browncoats and all bottom tier plants.
- Cozmic Brainz is stated to have lifted actual planets outright, anyone else who scales to him should also be Class Y.
- The Solar Flare Beam is just straight up stated to have "the greatest power in the universe" putting it above Zomboss' Moon Base Z Magnet outright which is 5-C in power.
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