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The Fraudster vs. The Black Swordsman

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I've received a one-day pass from King Yema to fix some of the SAO downplay and also pass a couple CRTs. I leave for a month and people are already making uninformed FRA trains against the goat.
Now let's get this done properly.

The Black Swordsman:

The Hunter:

Rules:

First key Hunter and second key Aincrad Kirito

The Hunter has prior knowledge.

The Hunter's optional equipment is restricted

They start 20ft out of sight

The fight takes place in Central Park.
 
Kirito wins this, easily in fact, that I'm surprised you guys really went to the extent you did with no research. Let's start with the first thing, Kirito would find where The Hunter is first via the Searching skill. The searching skill allows users to detect enemies and players within a large range of them, allowing Kirito to find enemies within an entire forest. This includes enemies obscured by trees and whatnot.

So, a 20-meter range is nothing for Kirito, searching would allow him to find the hunter easily and move to dispatch him. But, another important part? The hiding skill, gives him stealth mastery, something he would certainly use against an opponent he can't immediately reach.
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Now, the real nail in the coffin? Doesn't matter if the hunter has a gun, Kirito would notice it with his Searching skill and could use the Spinning Shield sword skill which blocks projectiles. This is especially important if he gets noticed while sneaking up on The Hunter.

It doesn't matter if the hunter moves away, Kirito will just keep moving towards him, and eventually kill him, analytical prediction will also help with dodging/defending against the bullets. The Hunter is getting owned by Kirigoat here.

It's also important to note, that a bullet to Kirito's head may not have the same affect as it would on a real person. As a game avatar, he lacks real anatomy/organs to make it matter. To him, it's just another normal attack that passes through him, not something instantly kills him and weakens him because that's not how SAO does hit detection.
 
It does sorta appear like a stomp, no?
It does, when you look at it Kirito has a skill that can make him practically invisible, something that's already boosted by his Black Swordsman coat. A skill that blocks projectiles, the hunter's ONLY wincon, and skills that immediately close the distance.

But hey, they thought it wasn't, So I don't think it's a stomp either, law of equivalent exchange.
 
Also, I'm p sure he can one shot the hunter which I don't get why that wasn't considered. Even WITH prior knowledge, Kirito still discovers everything HE needs to know with the searching skill. At which point it's fair game, he just does what I stated. Besides, how do you defend against analytical precog? Like do you... predict where they're predicting???
 
Actually wait, are you sure the Spinning Shield thingy can really block 9-A bullets? Kirito's only 9-B here.
The much higher is there for a reason, it's able to block attacks and projectiles from bosses who can one shot players, and in later interpretations even 8-C, 8-B level attacks.

Edit: This is also all considering the fact that the hunter even FINDS Kirito, he does not have stealth negation.
 
Also you call my hunter boi a ******* fraud.

At least he actually does have wins on his article.
I do not operate on a basis of "Ooooo my character has so many wins on their profile this makes my peenor hard." I saw a thread that was so uninformed and felt the need to fix it, nothing more, nothing less.

Also, ad hominem, debate the facts.
 
I do wonder if this is due to an outdated profile or not, but both the Search Skill and Spinning Shield are only listed in his Floor 2 key and onwards.
The Floor 1 key seems to lack both.
 
I do wonder if this is due to an outdated profile or not, but both the Search Skill and Spinning Shield are only listed in his Floor 2 key and onwards.
The Floor 1 key seems to lack both.
That's weird, because the scans are from the volume where he's on the first floor, Progressive 1 (Aria of a Starless Night). I think it's just oudated.

It's also from a short story known as "The First Day" a story which is literally about the first day in aincrad, which is the first floor.
 
It definitely explains why no one brought it up. Well, it should be a simple CRT either way.
Yeah, that's why I'm here today, SAO hasn't been touched in a while, hoping to lay the ground work down for Mark and another suppoorter to fix it.
 
Anyways, let's get some votes in here, before my SAO revisions maybe goes through.
 
Where the hell were you when Arto made TWO Kirito vs Hunter threads?
Kirito wins this, easily in fact, that I'm surprised you guys really went to the extent you did with no research. Let's start with the first thing, Kirito would find where The Hunter is first via the Searching skill. The searching skill allows users to detect enemies and players within a large range of them, allowing Kirito to find enemies within an entire forest. This includes enemies obscured by trees and whatnot.

Arto messaged SAO supporters for both threads.


As others have pointed out, he doesn't have the Search skill on this key. Fix that.
So, a 20-meter range is nothing for Kirito, searching would allow him to find the hunter easily and move to dispatch him. But, another important part? The hiding skill, gives him stealth mastery, something he would certainly use against an opponent he can't immediately reach.
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This is now valid solely because of the Search skill. I doubt Kirito will use it if he doesn't know that the opponent is packing and can oneshot him.
Now, the real nail in the coffin? Doesn't matter if the hunter has a gun, Kirito would notice it with his Searching skill and could use the Spinning Shield sword skill which blocks projectiles. This is especially important if he gets noticed while sneaking up on The Hunter.
He doesn't have Spinning Shield on this key. FIX THAT.
It doesn't matter if the hunter moves away, Kirito will just keep moving towards him, and eventually kill him, analytical prediction will also help with dodging/defending against the bullets. The Hunter is getting owned by Kirigoat here.
Feats for his analytical prediction? Can it help him deal with a bullet thousands of times faster than him shot by someone who can nail a moving target in the eye?
It's also important to note, that a bullet to Kirito's head may not have the same affect as it would on a real person. As a game avatar, he lacks real anatomy/organs to make it matter. To him, it's just another normal attack that passes through him, not something instantly kills him and weakens him because that's not how SAO does hit detection.
Scan for him surviving getting his head obliterated? It doesn't matter either way because the bullet is so much stronger and does so much damage it will make his health bar disappear.
Also, I'm p sure he can one shot the hunter which I don't get why that wasn't considered.
Almost every single Hunter match Arto made is him oneshotting or getting oneshotted. It has became his whole gimmick at this point.
 
Where the hell were you when Arto made TWO Kirito vs Hunter threads?

Arto messaged SAO supporters for both threads.


As others have pointed out, he doesn't have the Search skill on this key. Fix that.

This is now valid solely because of the Search skill. I doubt Kirito will use it if he doesn't know that the opponent is packing and can oneshot him.

I provided scans for searching already, so we know it exists in his first key. Also, why would he not use his Searching and Hiding skill, skills he clearly states are nessecary for survival in solo play, to discover more info about his opponent.

Unless the hunter has an answer to his stealth, he's getting gapped by a Sword Skill.
He doesn't have Spinning Shield on this key. FIX THAT.
Making a CRT for it, the aincrad side of SAO or SAO in general hasn't received real updates since like 2021. He showcases it in the material edition that takes place on Floor 4, and we know it's a weaker sword skill you get earlier later in the novel, and in other interpretations we see it block dragon fire from a mid boss which would be 8-C and later in another game something that's 8-B.
But the point is he has it, and it lets him block projectiles, so IF the hunter does how find him then he can use that to just walk towards the guy.
Feats for his analytical prediction? Can it help him deal with a bullet thousands of times faster than him shot by someone who can nail a moving target in the eye?
He should be, SAO players have crazy reactions, able to respond to skills such as flashing penetrator which can cause sonic booms, and other ones like sonic speed which let's you cross short distances in twice the speed, or fell crescent which lets you cross a distance in 0.4 seconds.
Scan for him surviving getting his head obliterated? It doesn't matter either way because the bullet is so much stronger and does so much damage it will make his health bar disappear.
It's just their physiology, I don't have scans for it but it's why they have hypermobility, can survive attacks to the head, they lack organs.
Almost every single Hunter match Arto made is him oneshotting or getting oneshotted. It has became his whole gimmick at this point.
Must be annoying to see so many matches spammed.
 
Unless the hunter has an answer to his stealth, he's getting gapped by a Sword Skill.
He does have an answer though he needs both prep and knowledge for that and you need to include it in the op since it’s optional,

It’s called a radar, and it allows the hunter to see whoever’s targeting as a yellow dot on the map. So there’s no way to sneak up on him since he knows exactly where you are
 
He does have an answer though he needs both prep and knowledge for that and you need to include it in the op since it’s optional,

It’s called a radar, and it allows the hunter to see whoever’s targeting as a yellow dot on the map. So there’s no way to sneak up on him since he knows exactly where you are
I don't exactly see that assigned in the optional equipment do I? We're doing this by the rules you guys were assigning
 
I don't exactly see that assigned in the optional equipment do I? We're doing this by the rules you guys were assigning
I’m only doing this if kirito is actually gonna 100% stomp the hunter all the time so I’m letting you know whether you would consider giving him his optional equipment if the rules we assigned actually lead to a stomp based on your analysis of it

Because the op in the original restricted all optional equipment
 
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