Some additional contents for Lego Monkie Kid

[Sdjlakjh]

1. Giving buffs to Lady Bone Demon and Macaque's intelligence

Here a couple docs I made for their intelligence scaling: Lady Bone Demon & Macaque. Macaque's intelligence should be upscaled to Extraordinary Genius via capable of outsmarting Lady Bone Demon + in the doc, the LMK writer did stated Macaque is smarter

2. Give resistance to space and time manipulation to LMK characters

When asking the LMK writer if they can escape a blackhole, it said they can because they are beyond physical laws which would include being unbound by causalityhttps://media.**********.net/attachments/1263160686075449477/1265707406881587334/luyGzkG.png?ex=66d73961&is=66d5e7e1&hm=fc920489647366f9edb9539c7c3117b1ef4b50d65933366c4070f55a59eb6460&https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1184752883460210688/1274479319607017493/IMG_6037.jpg?ex=66d77edc&is=66d62d5c&hm=d123ec2f43b81ff2e5e4ec5912c85f712fb3b74191cb0c02ee509a5c11b2b93d&
He also elaborated further as it gives more context for the LMK characters abilities in season 4
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3. Give Space manipulation and maybe durability negation via spatial manip to Sun Wukong and MK

It was shown that Wukong was tearing through spacetimes as showed holes in space itself
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Even stated by Macaque that Wukong was tearing through his pasts and here's another scene of Wukong tearing through space. As for MK, his power alone was shown to crack all of spacetime

4. Give disease/poison and curse immunity to MK

MK drink the special tea made by Sandy. Which was stated capable to have influence over mortality itself. The purpose of the tea was to cure MK's hiccups that happened because he was eating meatballs that were cursed, also was branded as a food poisoning curses stated by Mei

5. Give clairvoyance/precognition to Lady Bone Demon

As stated by her, she is able to see premonitions through her dreams. Even said that she doesn't need Mayor to take the Samadhi Fire as she said fate itself would bring it to her
6. Give MK resistance to Fate manipulation

-It was shown that Lady Bone Demon purpose to destroy the world was premonition, something that was fated to happen. Yet MK was able to defy that
-It was shown that in the future of the recycle of the universe is bound to happen no matter what. Another scene showing that MK sacrificing himself was already fated since creation. Which even the God of the LMK universe itself, Nuwa, stated that the recycle would still happen as it's destiny. Yet, MK is able to defy all of that and stopped the recycle of the universe

7. Give MK power absorption

He was able to steal Nuwa's power and use it for himself

8. Give MK limited creation and reality manipulation

With the power of the stones, he was able to fix a part of creation from complete erasure

9. Give MK enhanced power nulification

Able to nullify Li Jing's power using the headband on Wukong which Wukong himself couldn't do

10. Give MK and Wukong deconstruction

He was able to deconstruct the infinite floors of the prison realm. Also done it with the boulder to reach the guardian. Wukong should also have this as MK's power was stated to be the same as his

11. Give MK and Wukong resistance to sealing (with some layering)

-MK was able to break out of the Calabash seal
-Wukong was stated to be trapped in the furnace and managed to get out. While MK was shown to struggle in it, with increasing his willpower, he was able to do the same thing (Enhanced)
-Wukong was shown to be effected by the scroll's seal. Even a single portion of ink can completely seal a person. Yet MK himself was able to resist it's effects (Super Enhanced)
-While Wukong's seal was effective to his Monkey Form (which is stronger than base), MK was able to resist it by increasing his power level (Greatly Super Enhanced)

12. Give Macaque enhanced senses and resistance to Illusion creation

It is stated that Macaque can differentiate Wukong with fake projections with his smell. Which range would be a mile away

13. Give Lady Bone Demon limited resistance to sealing

Despite still trapped in her bone seal, she is still able to effect people outside of her seal with mind manipulation to do what she wants

14. Give Lady Bone Demon energy manipulation

-Was stated to be a power source, so LBD herself is likely made of pure energy
-Able to use her essences to power the furnace
-Able to use her own power to power the Mech robot

15. Give Lady Bone Demon multitude of resistances

It was stated the Samadhi Fire was the only thing that can stop Lady Bone Demon which even risks the destruction of all creation, more context here and here. So it's very likely that LBD should have resistance to most abilities in LMK such as Wukong/MK's deconstruction, the Scroll's sealing, Hundred Eye Demon's illusions and etc

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Point 4 would be more of Death Manip and Disease Manip resistance
Calabash was more of MK getting BFR in another dimension tbh,

Disagree with point 15 due to NLF
Neutral on point 6

Agree with the rest

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Point 4 would be more of Death Manip and Disease Manip resistance
Calabash was more of MK getting BFR in another dimension tbh,

Disagree with point 15 due to NLF
Neutral on point 6

Agree with the rest

So what qualifies as a seal then?

NLF is irrelevant as it's consistent narrative inverse wise. And both Wukong and Nezha are highly knowledgeable. NLF is something like if the verse hasn't shown, yet still be included. An example would be giving LBD resist to plot manip because of the SF statement. It qualifies as NLF because no lmk character can do that. Why would Wukong risk a weapon that can end everything including himself instead of a simple scroll that can seal people?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So what qualifies as a seal then?

The other things u sent

NLF is irrelevant as it's consistent narrative inverse wise. And both Wukong and Nezha are highly knowledgeable. NLF is something like if the verse hasn't shown, yet still be included. An example would be giving LBD resist to plot manip because of the SF statement. It qualifies as NLF because no lmk character can do that. Why would Wukong risk a weapon that can end everything including himself instead of a simple scroll that can seal people?

That could just imply SF is the only thing that can stop LDB in terms of power, we also saw her being vulnerable to Energy manip and Sealing, and her duplicate getting burned away due to the SF

 

[Sdjlakjh]

The other things u sent

That could just imply SF is the only thing that can stop LDB in terms of power, we also saw her being vulnerable to Energy manip and Sealing, and her duplicate getting burned away due to the SF

So what's the difference between that and calabash?

Not just raw power, but everything. The word strong wasn't used by Nezha. I don't remember vulnerable by energy manip? The sealing part was intentional by her to grow her power without getting noticed. Even then, she is still able to use her power to outside people of her seal. Why would the duplicates getting burned by SF relates here?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So what's the difference between that and calabash?

Not just raw power, but everything. The word strong wasn't used by Nezha. I don't remember vulnerable by energy manip?

Wukong fight

The sealing part was intentional by her to grow her power without getting noticed. Even then, she is still able to use her power to outside people of her seal.

Still vulnerable to it unless show otherwise. Using her powers outside the seal doesn't mean she could get out of it by herself (else why would she need outside help for it)

Why would the duplicates getting burned by SF relates here?

Proves she can't resist any abilities in LMK

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Wukong fight

Still vulnerable to it unless show otherwise. Using her powers outside the seal doesn't mean she could get out of it by herself (else why would she need outside help for it)

Proves she can't resist any abilities in LMK

That doesn't explain much? Show me the part where she became vulnerable

Statements have value. Have you read LBD's intelligence doc? I have gone in depth to that reason

Because SF was the only thing that can beat her? What is that logic

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

You can’t link to docs or sandboxes, you have to write the arguments directly in the OP

 

[Sdjlakjh]

You can’t link to docs or sandboxes, you have to write the arguments directly in the OP

Huh why? Cause it's gonna be too many to list

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Agreed with Lloyd

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Agreed with Lloyd

Hm could you elaborate? If that's fine

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Huh why? Cause it's gonna be too many to list

See this:

Sandboxes and CRTs

Introduction This thread attempts to create a standard around something that, for the longest time, has been an unwritten courtesy on content revision threads. Issue Often times, when someone is changing lots of stuff on a profile, they’ll just re-create the entire profile in a sandbox and...

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My recommendation: use SPOILER feature, like this:

Spoiler

Insert yappery reasoning.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

neutral with everything, but disagree with 2

 

[Sdjlakjh]

See this:

Sandboxes and CRTs

Introduction This thread attempts to create a standard around something that, for the longest time, has been an unwritten courtesy on content revision threads. Issue Often times, when someone is changing lots of stuff on a profile, they’ll just re-create the entire profile in a sandbox and...

vsbattles.com

My recommendation: use SPOILER feature, like this:

Spoiler

Insert yappery reasoning.

Hm first time I know about that

 

[Sdjlakjh]

neutral with everything, but disagree with 2

Can you explain?

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Can you explain?

It's like I ask the creator of Naruto if Naruto can destroy infinite universes with just one finger, and if he tells me yes then I automatically scale Naruto to multiversal+

Not all author statements should be taken literally, especially if they are just responses to a simple random fan on a social network (and let's not talk about the fact that you are also using an AI to back up what you say, AI make mistakes a lot lmao)

 

[Sdjlakjh]

It's like I ask the creator of Naruto if Naruto can destroy infinite universes with just one finger, and if he tells me yes then I automatically scale Naruto to multiversal+

Not all author statements should be taken literally, especially if they are just responses to a simple random fan on a social network (and let's not talk about the fact that you are also using an AI to back up what you say, AI make mistakes a lot lmao)

Well thing is, the author mentioned that they are beyond physical laws themselves, not like anyone directly asks if they are. Not only that, he also directly mentioned is to back up their abilities in season 4 regarding how they can rip through space and time, time travel and etc

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Well thing is, the author mentioned that they are beyond physical laws themselves, not like anyone directly asks if they are. Not only that, he also directly mentioned is to back up their abilities in season 4 regarding how they can rip through space and time, time travel and etc

The best thing would be to wait for someone experienced to come and say whether it is valid to use this author's declaration or not, because not all of them can be taken seriously.

I already said my opinion

 

[Sdjlakjh]

The best thing would be to wait for someone experienced to come and say whether it is valid to use this author's declaration or not, because not all of them can be taken seriously.

I already said my opinion

Keyword: not all of them. I already proved that this an exception as the author gives context for their own answers, as it highly relates for season 4. As I remember in the Vsbattles rule regarding author statements, they can be approved if it's referred to a context something shown/stated in the verse

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Well thing is, the author mentioned that they are beyond physical laws themselves, not like anyone directly asks if they are. Not only that, he also directly mentioned is to back up their abilities in season 4 regarding how they can rip through space and time, time travel and etc

They can’t be used if and only if:
1) It is contradicted/unsupported by the primary source (in this case the show);
2) Leading questions (such as: can X character destroy an uncountably infinite dimensional space?)

Otherwise they’re good to be used.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

They can’t be used if and only if:
1) It is contradicted/unsupported by the primary source (in this case the show);
2) Leading questions (such as: can X character destroy an uncountably infinite dimensional space?)

Otherwise they’re good to be used.

Actually is supported because of Wukong/MK's feats, Tang's time travel feats and The Scroll's ability to reality warp and manipulate spacetime itself in season 4. So the author statement here would be good

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Well thing is, the author mentioned that they are beyond physical laws themselves, not like anyone directly asks if they are.

Most fictional verses operate beyond physical laws, its nothing big

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Alright Ant agrees this CRT can be accepted @DarkDragonMedeus https://media.**********.net/attachments/823821927844020325/1281520690264281118/Screenshot_20240906_144352_Chrome.jpg?ex=66dc04a6&is=66dab326&hm=53860114f1f6c0eddfe85d62a61cdeeb7aeafc584185f927ce6ffe209b95cb6d&

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

This should not have been applied. You applied everything, including Point 15, with Loyd disagreed with, and by extension, Dark.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This should not have been applied. You applied everything, including Point 15, with Loyd disagreed with, and by extension, Dark.

I never applied everything? Did you see I add resist fate manip for MK? Also, I already made Lloyd concede to my points, so I personally have clear up the points

The only thing I never applied was resist fate manip because Lloyd was still neutral on it

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

You didn't make him concede he just didn't answer you.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

You didn't make him concede he just didn't answer you.

If he still retains his viewpoints, he would have still argue against me instead of talking to Orange

It would be seen as concession according to the basics of dialectal debate

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Or he simply wasn't interested or forgot. Actually, you've done a lot of things to the Lady Bone Demon Profile without a CRT.

I'm moving this to Rules Violation.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Or he simply wasn't interested or forgot. Actually, you've done a lot of things to the Lady Bone Demon Profile without a CRT.

I'm moving this to Rules Violation.

Again, do you understand the dialectal basics? And it's very unlikely that he forgets about it since the thread hasn't been long + runtime too

Can you give me examples?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Or he simply wasn't interested or forgot. Actually, you've done a lot of things to the Lady Bone Demon Profile without a CRT.

I'm moving this to Rules Violation.

Well since you are here, why not as well review the CRT yourself? The opinion on resist fate manip is still neutral. I personally struggle to find staffs that are interested in reviewing this verse

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Or he simply wasn't interested or forgot. Actually, you've done a lot of things to the Lady Bone Demon Profile without a CRT.

I'm moving this to Rules Violation.

Shouldn’t it go to Vandalism Report Thread?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Shouldn’t it go to Vandalism Report Thread?

Yes, said the wrong thing, mb.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Can close now?