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Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel) Vs Mori Dan

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We already kidna resolved this in the top 15 non smurfs thread. Moris passive mind hax make her give up and worship and fear him.

Worst case scenario he steals her power and abilities with Greed and Satan, then erases all her fragments while returning all of their attacks 1000x harder with Joker+Pandora.
 
We already kidna resolved this in the top 15 non smurfs thread. Moris passive mind hax make her give up and worship and fear him.

Worst case scenario he steals her power and abilities with Greed and Satan, then erases all her fragments while returning all of their attacks 1000x harder with Joker+Pandora.
Immeasurable speed > passive
 
Immeasurable speed > passive
Speed equalized. And Mori has High Godly regeneration on a informational level, so Medea can't do jack. While Mori has wincons like higher AP, EE, Sealing, Power null, power mimicry that works on a law and informational level, not to mention he is an abstract being.
 
Speed equalized. And Mori has High Godly regeneration on a informational level, so Medea can't do jack. While Mori has wincons like higher AP, EE, Sealing, Power null, power mimicry that works on a law and informational level, not to mention he is an abstract being.
The speed is not equalized, and Medea has ways to get around pretty much all of Mori's stuff, but her profile is very outdated
 
The speed is not equalized, and Medea has ways to get around pretty much all of Mori's stuff, but her profile is very outdated
So make a CRT first, dude. We go by what's on the profile. If they are not on the page, then it's useless to argue with those.
 
And Medea doesn't resist Conceptual Manipulation Type 2, anyways. This is a stomp, ask a mod to close this.
 
So make a CRT first, dude. We go by what's on the profile. If they are not on the page, then it's useless to argue with those.
It's been a long time since I read the webnovel and I'm not interested in it now, and Mori still doesn't do anything against Medea's immeasurable speed, he just keeps erasing him from existence over and over again. It's an incon
And Medea doesn't resist Conceptual Manipulation Type 2, anyways. This is a stomp, ask a mod to close this.
She can, but the bad profile , but enough to read her profile to realize that she resists her own Destroyer Infinity that erases all of a person's "universal" reality.
 
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It's been a long time since I read the webnovel and I'm not interested in it now, and Mori still doesn't do anything against Medea's immeasurable speed, he just keeps erasing him from existence over and over again. It's an incon
You do realize Mori resists layered EE that can erase concepts and information, right? He is an abstract concept, type 2 at that. Immeasurable speed won't do jack when Mori's body exists beyond mortal world. She has never shown interacting with an abstract being either.
She can, but the bad profile , enough to read her profile to realize that she resists her own Destroyer Infinity that erases all of a person's "universal" reality.
Mori has layered EE, so there's that. He can mind hax Medea into doing anything he wants, there's that too. He can strip her of her powers, there's that too. Mori has Conceptual Manipulation Type 2 and 3 that can impose and change one's and the world's very existence. He has acausality so Medea's causality manipulation won't do jack, along with the fact that Mori resists law and physics Manipulation. He can also just steal and copy her powers and weapons via Satan.

This is just hopeless.
 
Btw this should be speed equalized as the point is to decide whether they should share a spot in the top 15 non smurfs or whether Mori should be above.

That aside, speed not being equalized kinda gives Mori a massive advantage. Medea can move across time through sheer speed but Mori already exists across all time so he's already there. Sooo yeah
Moris passive mind hax make her give up and worship and fear him.

Worst case scenario he steals her power and abilities with Greed and Satan, then erases all her fragments while returning all of their attacks 1000x harder with Joker+Pandora.
Voting Mori FRA until someone brings up an actual wincon/incon for Medea that doesn't get countered by these (which assume there are none given we already talked about this in the other thread)
 
Mori exists across all time. She has nowhere to dodge and has no idea that there even is something to dodge.
Her first move is her Destroyer infinity, her attack is arriving before the effect of Mori's passive
You do realize Mori resists layered EE that can erase concepts and information, right? He is an abstract concept, type 2 at that. Immeasurable speed won't do jack when Mori's body exists beyond mortal world. She has never shown interacting with an abstract being either.
Her CM is 4D
Btw this should be speed equalized as the point is to decide whether they should share a spot in the top 15 non smurfs or whether Mori should be above.

That aside, speed not being equalized kinda gives Mori a massive advantage. Medea can move across time through sheer speed but Mori already exists across all time so he's already there. Sooo yeah

Voting Mori FRA until someone brings up an actual wincon/incon for Medea that doesn't get countered by these (which assume there are none given we already talked about this in the other thread)
This is not a battle for the 15 non-smurfs, the speed was not equalized and even if it was Mori there would be no way to react to his Destroyer infinity because it is an attack speed.

Edit: The manipulation of casuality is affecting itself, Acasulity is not helping mori here
 
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Her CM is 4D
Cool! Mori's resistance and hax are all 4D as well, and fundamental at that.
This is not a battle for the 15 non-smurfs, the speed was not equalized and even if it was Mori there would be no way to react to his Destroyer infinity because it is an attack speed.
What good is it if it won't even work on Mori? Mori resists EE that works on a Conceptual and informational, which is also 4D in nature. So yeah, this match is dingus.
 
Cool! Mori's resistance and hax are all 4D as well, and fundamental at that.

What good is it if it won't even work on Mori? Mori resists EE that works on a Conceptual and informational, which is also 4D in nature. So yeah, this match is dingus.
The central element page has no reasoning for 4D, and the mori page has no 4D resistance either.
 
Her first move is her Destroyer infinity, her attack is arriving before the effect of Mori's passive
Mori there would be no way to react to his Destroyer infinity because it is an attack speed.
I don't think she has a chance to use that move because it's just attack speed from her magic as far as I understand.

Which I see her combat speed is only Supersonic and Mori has a speed of about Sextillion xFTL + Omnipresent.

so i think she doesn't have a chance to use that move.
 
this was so uncalled for
I mean, all this time I have been giving arguments over arguments, and all he does is, "I don't see it anywhere," or "Medea just speed blitzes the monkey," or "Her destroyer will hit him before his passives."
 
Her first move is her Destroyer infinity, her attack is arriving before the effect of Mori's passive
She's supersonic so her first move literally won't happen because she needs to actually activate it and Mori simple dodges. He can exit at any and every point in time and space.
This is not a battle for the 15 non-smurfs, the speed was not equalized and even if it was Mori there would be no way to react to his Destroyer infinity because it is an attack speed.
Yes he has?
Edit: The manipulation of casuality is affecting itself, Acasulity is not helping mori here
Huh?
 
I don't think she has a chance to use that move because it's just attack speed from her magic as far as I understand.

Which I see her combat speed is only Supersonic and Mori has a speed of about Sextillion xFTL + Omnipresent.

so i think she doesn't have a chance to use that move.
Or even if she used that move on Mori, it probably wouldn't have any effect on Mori because he is a abstract being.
 
I am tired now, so here are both of their wincons:

Mori:
  • Higher AP
  • Higher LS
  • Better EE which works on a fundamental level
  • Sealing
  • Power Nullification
  • Power Absorption
  • Power Mimicry
  • Cannot be interacted with, thanks to his AE
  • Is able to foresee the future
  • Is unaffected by Causality manipulation and law manipulation as he is an acausality monkey, plus has broken free of samsara
  • He can use causality manipulation to put Medea on a eternal loop
  • Basically be invulnerable physically and spirituality through his authority as the Maitreya and mastery over natural forces
  • Has better hand to hand combat and weapon mastery
  • Can steal Medea's weapon with Satan
  • Has High-Godly regeneration
  • Can resist layered, 4D, Conceptual EE
  • And so much more
  • His weapons are heavier than what Medea can lift
Medea:
  • Has higher attack speed for her destroyer ability
  • Can steal weapons
 
Mori tricks Medea into stealing his yeoui and gets absolutely crushed by its sheer weight ggz lmao
 
Edit: The manipulation of casuality is affecting itself, Acasulity is not helping mori here
Mori has Acausality type 4; he is beyond the laws and causality of the world. And Medea's causality manipulation isn't that special, it just changes reality through warping causality, Mori has faced this before and has broken free of it.
 
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