Trinity seven acausality type 5 according to the new standards

[Grabbing_dragon]

I planned to post this after This thread but i wanna add it now.This is going to be a simple thread.

Gods are absolute beings that are eternal truths transcending time . They predate time as well ,having neither a beginning nor an end and would not participate in the concepts of before and after,Inculding the story

This is just for gods true selfs in akashic records

 

[Unqver]

This looks like BE.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

This looks like BE.

you can put them together in this case.
There acausality type 5 because thier eternal and outside time

 

[Thelastmlg]

That’d be type 4, the page even says that being independent of time and space does not grant you type 5

the new standard requires evidence of them being changeless as well as impossible to interact with due to their transcendence of causality

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

That’d be type 4, the page even says that being independent of time and space does not grant you type 5

What i ment with new standards is eternal existence without before and after is acausality type 5 .
I already ask ultima about it Here

 

[Fyodol_Empyrean]

Acc5 requires unchangeable and uninteractable via casual transcendence blatant statement.

 

[Theglassman12]

None of this looks like type 5, at best it would be type 4.

 

[Shyouu]

I already ask ultima about it Here

He didn't even answer your question lmfao. Also SITM is an entirely different context, your application of another verse is just fallacious

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

None of this looks like type 5, at best it would be type 4.

i mean thier stated to be eternal and transcerd time at the sametime they would not have a before and after . They would be eternal now .

Ultima Reality/TheOne

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[Theglassman12]

Literally nothing of what you showed for Trinity seven matches the one from Divine Comedy so idk why you’re doing this whataboutism here

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Literally nothing of what you showed for Trinity seven matches the one from Divine Comedy so idk why you’re doing this whataboutism here

I mean this Scan
Thier eternal and outside time so they would not be eternal in sense of lasting forever like ultima said Here
Since thier biased of plato theory of forms it is literary the forms are not eternal in a sense of lasting forever.

A Form is aspatial (transcendent to space) and atemporal (transcendent to time).[14] In the world of Plato, atemporal means that it does not exist within any time period, rather it provides the formal basis for time.[14] It therefore formally grounds beginning, persisting and ending. It is neither eternal in the sense of existing forever, nor mortal, of limited duration. It exists transcendent to time altogether.[15] Forms are aspatial in that they have no spatial dimensions, and thus no orientation in space, nor do they even (like the point) have a location.[16] They are non-physical, but they are not in the mind. Forms are extra-mental (i.e. real in the strictest sense of the word).[17]

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Another exempel that has Acausality type 5 because of thier eternal existence
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andbox6?useskin=fandomdesktop#Absolute_Spirit
And this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Iiliminal/The_Pillars .
I think i should remove space

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

He didn't even answer your question lmfao. Also SITM is an entirely different context, your application of another verse is just fallacious

Thier is other ways to get what he said.
Get eternal existence outside of time

 

[Shyouu]

I mean this Scan
Thier eternal and outside time so they would not be eternal in sense of lasting forever like ultima said Here
Since thier biased of plato theory of forms it is literary the forms are not eternal in a sense of lasting forever.

Again that is not enough, existing outside time in a context of "causality" would just be assumed they operate on a different and irregular system, so at best it's just type 4.

Another exempel that has Acausality type 5 because of thier eternal existence
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andbox6?useskin=fandomdesktop#Absolute_Spirit
And this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Iiliminal/The_Pillars .
I think i should remove space

And bro stop with this buffoonery whataboutism, those verses has an entirely different context its not applicable to what you're presenting at all

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Another exempel that has Acausality type 5 because of thier eternal existence
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...andbox6?useskin=fandomdesktop#Absolute_Spirit
And this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Iiliminal/The_Pillars .
I think i should remove space

you aint cooking

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Again that is not enough, existing outside time in a context of "causality" would just be assumed they operate on a different and irregular system, so at best it's just type 4.,

Existing outside time in the contact of eternal existence means they dont participate in the concepts of before and after

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

you aint cooking

True ultima 's imput would be amazing

 

[Shyouu]

Existing outside time in the contact of eternal existence means they dont participate in the concepts of before and after

Your scans does not indicate that at all. You have to prove that those statements refer to the nonexistent participation of prepositions that are used to describe time which doesn't seem to be the case here.

 

[Livinmeme]

The part of them not having a beggining or end, is kinda blatant

 

[Shyouu]

The part of them not having a beggining or end, is kinda blatant

?? The scan literally says the opposite if anything

 

[RM97]

This seem like type 4 imo

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Your scans does not indicate that at all. You have to prove that those statements refer to the nonexistent participation of prepositions that are used to describe time which doesn't seem to be the case here.

The reason it is because of the verse mechanic character trying to get closer to this truths.
Thier outside time it is entirety so things like Before,after etc they wouldnt have them by default.
Because they have never existed in time .
They exist in the Origin of everything inculding time. that has always been outside time and has i said before thier eternal. They didnt come into existence they exist because they exist

 

[Fixxed]

Lack of beginning and ending can have other concext honestly. If you dont have "before and after" become eternal "now" it will be acausality 5, either it just to prove you dont exist in past and future or you become changeless

And yeah your prove just say contain every begininning and ending it not say before and after

 

[Fixxed]

Btw time doesnt equal to causality by default, but process or motion are equal to causality it is why lack of before and after can be a proof for aca 5, you dont have any process or motion therefore you are changeless

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Lack of beginning and ending can have other concext honestly. If you dont have "before and after" become eternal "now" it will be acausality 5, either it just to prove you dont exist in past and future or you become changeless

Thanks but what about when they have always existed outside of time and get called eternal and transcerd time .
Will it count has eternal now.
Thats what my thread is about.

 

[Fixxed]

Thanks but what about when they have always existed outside of time and get called eternal and transcerd time .
Will it count has eternal now.
Thats what my thread is about.

Honestly bruh this thread (espesifically the OP) lack of explanation and argument, i think you must gather all the scan and make a argument fot the scan it self so everyone would understand what you mean when you brought that scan

This thread is poor not gonna lie, you must make another one

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Honestly bruh this thread (espesifically the OP) lack of explanation and argument, i think you must gather all the scan and make a argument fot the scan it self so everyone would understand what you mean when you brought that scan

This thread is poor not gonna lie, you must make another one

Ok i will do it thanks again

 

[Everything12]

First, a Monad by it's nature (or lack of one) will have Acausailty Type 5 by default, meaning that a Tier 0 from the start has a bunch of context supporting Acausality Type 5 that a non-Tier 5 will lack simply from the evidence of their Tier. They are simply playing a different game and shouldn't be used as an example for other Tiers.

Second, everyone saying you need explict evidence is correct. Unless they is a explicit evidence linking an acausal nature to being unchanging your not getting it. Statements of having no before and after or being eternal are not sufficient. Also being before/outside/transcend time =/= acausal.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

First, a Monad by it's nature (or lack of one) will have Acausailty Type 5 by default, meaning that a Tier 0 from the start has a bunch of context supporting Acausality Type 5 that a non-Tier 5 will lack simply from the evidence of their Tier. They are simply playing a different game and shouldn't be used as an example for other Tiers.

Got it, but it also says feats they have shown.

. Also being before/outside/transcend time =/= acausal.

i already know this one . I only used time because of the eternal existence.
Now close this thread or delete

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Unless they is a explicit evidence linking an acausal nature to being unchanging your not getting it.

This unchangeability always hurts having almost all platonic scans without it.