Superman VS Mahito

[TauanVictor]

"Founding Member of the Justice League" Superman VS "Special Grade Cursed Spirit" Mahito​

• Starting Distance: 3m
• Both in-character
• Equalized speed
• Post-Eradicator Superman | Shibuya Incident Arc Mahito

LOCATION:

Superman:
Mahito:
Inconclusive:

Superman (Post-Crisis)

Superman is one of the most powerful beings on Earth and its greatest hero. Born to the illustrious House of El, Kal-El is one of the last surviving members of his race as his planet was destroyed not long after his birth. He was found and raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent in Smallville...

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Mahito

Mahito (真ま人ひと?) is the secondary antagonist of the Jujutsu Kaisen series. He is a Cursed Spirit allied with Suguru Geto, Jogo, Hanami, and several others. Their ultimate goal is eradicating humanity and ultimately replacing the population with Cursed Spirits. Tier: 8-B, higher with Shapeshifting...

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[Dalesean027]

Speed equals... a cowards way out.
What makes this not a stomp?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Lmao?

 

[koopa3144]

Superman resists soul manip and Transmutation so what can Mahito do here?

 

[Tomfer]

Not only Sups resist, I'm pretty sure it's layered resistance too?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Superman to Mahito be like:

 

[SunDaGamer]

Assuming Superman can see Mahito, even with Mahito's invulnerability to non-CE strikes he'd probably get BFR'd by something like the Infinite Mass Punch

 

[Dalesean027]

Assuming Superman can see Mahito,

I mean if we're being real if seeing curses just requires you see another spectrum or layer of light he should quite easily be able to

 

[koopa3144]

Assuming Superman can see Mahito, even with Mahito's invulnerability to non-CE strikes he'd probably get BFR'd by something like the Infinite Mass Punch

Superman does have Extrasensory Perception in this key and can see the aura of every living creature and detect and view the psychic energy of others so he can probably see Mahito.

 

[Unknownnah]

"Founding Member of the Justice League" Superman VS "Special Grade Cursed Spirit" Mahito​

• Starting Distance: 3m
• Both in-character
• Equalized speed
• Post-Eradicator Superman | Shibuya Incident Arc Mahito

LOCATION:

Superman:
Mahito:
Inconclusive:

Superman (Post-Crisis)

Superman is one of the most powerful beings on Earth and its greatest hero. Born to the illustrious House of El, Kal-El is one of the last surviving members of his race as his planet was destroyed not long after his birth. He was found and raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent in Smallville...

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Mahito

Mahito (真ま人ひと?) is the secondary antagonist of the Jujutsu Kaisen series. He is a Cursed Spirit allied with Suguru Geto, Jogo, Hanami, and several others. Their ultimate goal is eradicating humanity and ultimately replacing the population with Cursed Spirits. Tier: 8-B, higher with Shapeshifting...

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[Shadyboi0]

Speed equals... a cowards way out.

COOK!

 

[Livinmeme]

What the ****

 

[Quantu]

"Where you go I go..."

V2

 

[koopa3144]

It´s at least funny to think on Mahito sh#tting his pants after seeing the Supes resists all of his hax and is massively stronger and faster than him

Bro deserves it fr

 

[Homie890]

damn,mahito will be stomped man.
epic.

 

[TauanVictor]

Superman resists soul manip and Transmutation so what can Mahito do here?

Superman can't resist soul transhumation.

 

[koopa3144]

Superman can't resist soul transhumation.

Mahito's soul transhumation is from soul manipulation. Superman resists both soul manip and Transmutation. Unless Mahito's soul manipulation is layered, it's not gonna effect Clark.

 

[TauanVictor]

Mahito's soul transhumation is from soul manipulation. Superman resists both soul manip and Transmutation. Unless Mahito's soul manipulation is layered, it's not gonna effect Clark.

Its resistance isn't layered. It's not included in the Hax Evaluation thread.

You resisting your soul being stolen and similar interactions is diametrically different from resisting a soul transmutation. If that were the case, everyone who had resistance to Soul Hax would have resistance to Soul EE, for example, and that's not how the forum treats it.

 

[TauanVictor]

Superman does have Extrasensory Perception in this key and can see the aura of every living creature and detect and view the psychic energy of others so he can probably see Mahito.

Not because Mahito's presence, besides being incorporeal, is abstract and linked to curses. Show Superman detecting a being with these conditions and he can detect Mahito.

 

[koopa3144]

You resisting your soul being stolen and similar interactions is diametrically different from resisting a soul transmutation. If that were the case, everyone who had resistance to Soul Hax would have resistance to Soul EE, for example, and that's not how the forum treats it.

Still, Mahito's Idle Transfiguration stems from soul manip which Clark can fight back against so Mahito will not be able to interact with Supes soul to transmute it with Idle Transfiguration. Even if he can use Idle Transfiguration on him, Clark can just vibrate through his touch to avoid Idle Transfiguration.

Not because Mahito's presence, besides being incorporeal, is abstract and linked to curses. Show Superman detecting a being with these conditions and he can detect Mahito.

Curses are only Type 2 Abstract which alone doesn't require any enhanced vision to see. Also, as noted earlier in the thread by @Dalesean027 seeing curses just requires you to see another spectrum or layer of light which Supes can do.

 

[TauanVictor]

Still, Mahito's Idle Transfiguration stems from soul manip which Clark can fight back against so Mahito will not be able to interact with Supes soul to transmute it with Idle Transfiguration.

You're misunderstanding. I'm not denying that Clark can continue fighting when receiving attacks on the soul, but that's not evidence that he can survive his soul being transmuted, and Mahito can interact with Sups, the very scan of the profile where his resistance comes from shows his soul being hit (interaction) and him resisting.

Even if he can use Idle Transfiguration on him, Clark can just vibrate through his touch to avoid Idle Transfiguration.

Mahito doesn't need to touch him to affect his soul.

Curses are only Type 2 Abstract which alone doesn't require any enhanced vision to see. Also, as noted earlier in the thread by @Dalesean027 seeing curses just requires you to see another spectrum or layer of light which Supes can do.

Could you send me the link to the thread?

 

[koopa3144]

and Mahito can interact with Sups, the very scan of the profile where his resistance comes from shows his soul being hit (interaction) and him resisting.

By interact I meant Mahito wouldn't be able to make contact to reshape Clark's soul due to him resisting against it.

Mahito doesn't need to touch him to affect his soul.

He does. Unless I'm forgetting something, Idle Transfiguration only works on others after Mahito makes direct contact with them or if they're in his domain.

Could you send me the link to the thread?

It was the 8th post in this thread.

 

[TauanVictor]

By interact I meant Mahito wouldn't be able to make contact to reshape Clark's soul due to him resisting against it.

Even if that were true, Mahito would only use Domain Expansion, which Sups can't do anything about.

He does. Unless I'm forgetting something, Idle Transfiguration only works on others after Mahito makes direct contact with them or if they're in his domain.

He can also do this with Black Flash.

It was the 8th post in this thread.

I'm not referring to that, it's just a comment. Would you have a thread where this was accepted as a universal rule for curses?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Mahito doesn't need to touch him to affect his soul.

ironic but souls also vibrate in DC, everything have a vibration, by counter it you can EE people even concepts like True form Darkside

Existence Erasure (Can emit a scream that matches and counters the vibrations of the quantum strings that make up an opponent[106])

This is from sups profile

Either way, Sups uses Torquasm-Rao and Torquasm-Vo to generate positive energy from the universe and purifies Mahito (basically positive energy similar to the sword of extermination)

 

[TauanVictor]

ironic but souls also vibrate in DC, everything have a vibration, by counter it you can EE people even concepts like True form Darkside

Existence Erasure (Can emit a scream that matches and counters the vibrations of the quantum strings that make up an opponent[106])

Tbf he only used it against Darkseid who is the pure embodiment of evil. In more ordinary contexts (and even involving his life), he never used it.

Either way, Sups uses Torquasm-Rao and Torquasm-Vo to generate positive energy from the universe and purifies Mahito (basically positive energy similar to the sword of extermination)

Mahito would regenerate and immediately use Domain.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Even if that were true, Mahito would only use Domain Expansion, which Sups can't do anything about.

Supes can literally just vibrate out of that. Or even just straight up punch his way out of it.

Mahito would regenerate and immediately use Domain.

Mahito's regen will run out eventually, and with Superman's massively superior stamina, Mahito is not winning the battle of attrition.

 

[Baken384]

Superman violates Mahito alongside the verse 20x over

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Tbf he only used it against Darkseid who is the pure embodiment of evil. In more ordinary contexts (and even involving his life), he never used it.

I used it to mean that everything is vibrations, soul as well, so if Sups vibrate he cannot touch him

Mahito would regenerate and immediately use Domain.

I doubt Mahito can regenerate from soul damage that is basically a mahoraga sword.

 

[Robo432343]

superman resist everything on a multiversal level vro

 

[TauanVictor]

Supes can literally just vibrate out of that. Or even just straight up punch his way out of it.

Power Null.

I used it to mean that everything is vibrations, soul as well, so if Sups vibrate he cannot touch him

But Sups would need prior knowledge to use the vibrations of his soul as a first move, not least because his IA would inform him that Mahito is much weaker than him. What's more, Mahito doesn't have to touch it directly, he can use Black Flash and the properties of his domain to do so.

I doubt Mahito can regenerate from soul damage that is basically a mahoraga sword.

I say that because Mahito resists Soul Hax. Why assume that such vibrations could be more damaging than Mahoraga?

 

[TauanVictor]

superman resist everything on a multiversal level vro

 

[M3X_2.0]

Why is this still open

 

[Shadyboi0]

I ain't got a clue.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Even if that were true, Mahito would only use Domain Expansion, which Sups can't do anything about.

Supes flexes and he destroys the domain

I don't think you get the absolute vitriolic gap in power here. You never specified what level of power Clark is using here. Therefore, he's 2-C here, meaning any sort of physical actions would one shot anything from Mahito's arsenal.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I say that because Mahito resists Soul Hax. Why assume that such vibrations could be more damaging than Mahoraga

I'm not talking about vibrations, I'm talking about the purifying energy of the ******* universe that will run through Superman's entire body and spirit when he use Torquasm-Rao and Torquasm-Vo

Power Null.

Are you talking about the sure hit? when the domains can touch something that has feats of being able to vibrate outside the grasp of someone who touches intangible beings, sure

But Sups would need prior knowledge to use the vibrations of his soul as a first move, not least because his IA would inform him that Mahito is much weaker than him. What's more, Mahito doesn't have to touch it directly, he can use Black Flash and the properties of his domain to do so.

Superman is dealing with a spirit, he knows well that with magic he has to be extremely careful cuz different magic need different form to resist it, he won't let something touch him.

 

[That_moron2]

Oh fuuuck you

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Power Null.

I'm pretty sure that only works on things related to CE. Superman doesn't have that, and being to able control his own body is just part of his natural physiology.

But Sups would need prior knowledge to use the vibrations of his soul as a first move, not least because his IA would inform him that Mahito is much weaker than him. What's more, Mahito doesn't have to touch it directly, he can use Black Flash and the properties of his domain to do so.

Superman can resist soul hax from the likes to the Anti-Life Equation. Nothing Mahito does is anywhere remotely as powerful.

 

[TauanVictor]

I'm not talking about vibrations, I'm talking about the purifying energy of the ******* universe that will run through Superman's entire body and spirit when he use Torquasm-Rao and Torquasm-Vo

Even so, Mahito can regenerate with the total destruction of his body, and could even play dead to transfigure Sups' soul while distracted.

Superman is dealing with a spirit, he knows well that with magic he has to be extremely careful cuz different magic need different form to resist it, he won't let something touch him.

There's no basis for Sups to assume that it's a spirit, nor that Sups wouldn't let anything touch him, since he would know at the start of the fight that he was fighting someone much weaker.

Supes flexes and he destroys the domain

Sups would need unlimited Space-Time Manipulation to break out of a pocket dimension with brute force.

Superman can resist soul hax from the likes to the Anti-Life Equation. Nothing Mahito does is anywhere remotely as powerful.

But that doesn't prove that Sups can resist every form of Soul Hax in existence.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Sups would need unlimited Space-Time Manipulation to break out of a pocket dimension with brute force.

That is not need, even Yuji can do that, is not that Superman cannot break down the fabric of Time-space. This from ap section

shattered the boundaries of Space-Time and changed timelines while fighting his Earth-Two counterpart

There's no basis for Sups to assume that it's a spirit, nor that Sups wouldn't let anything touch him, since he would know at the start of the fight that he was fighting someone much weaker.

The fact that he would notice that he is not a being made of regular matter, his first move is scan his enemy with his super sense, having to trust his senses to perceive the soul after that

Even so, Mahito can regenerate with the total destruction of his body, and could even play dead to transfigure Sups' soul while distracted.

This is not destruction of the body, it is purifying it, it would directly eliminate its EC reserves, which would end in its death.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

But that doesn't prove that Sups can resist every form of Soul Hax in existence.

And how is Mahito's soul hax so different?

Even so, Mahito can regenerate with the total destruction of his body, and could even play dead to transfigure Sups' soul while distracted.

And again, his regen is going to run out eventually. Mahito simply cannot win in the battle of attrition.

There's no basis for Sups to assume that it's a spirit, nor that Sups wouldn't let anything touch him, since he would know at the start of the fight that he was fighting someone much weaker.

Superman senses is definitely going to indicate that Mahito isn't any normal being. Once he sense something is up with Mahito, he's definitely going to be more cautious against him.

Sups would need unlimited Space-Time Manipulation to break out of a pocket dimension with brute force.

Literally one of his feats is punching so hard the universe rewrote itself. Domain Expansion isn't doing shit.