Betty fights with a slightly different Frisk

[EnderLord8]

Canon Frisk vs Betty Glitchtale

• Betty is in her base key
• Frisk is the key to the neutral route when fighting Omega Flowey
• Speed Equalized
• Both start 20 meters away
• Frisk has access to Yellow Mode, Torn Notebook and Cloudy Glasses, as well as a Caramel Pie, Sea Tea and several other complementary healing items

• Frisk scales to 329.95 Tones (8-A) and Betty scales well above Papyrus's 60.664 Tones (8-B+) talent
• Frisk has Peak Human lifting strength and Betty is as unknown

Battlefield: Surface, near of M. Ebbot

History: After falling underground and executing some Neutral routes and finally resetting a genocidal route after defeating Sans, Frisk finally decides to free the monsters, but unfortunately Betty happens and now Frisk has to stop her from ruining them happy ending, even if it is at the base of brute force.


Frisk:
Betty:
Incon:

 

[EnderLord8]

BUMP

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I doubt Frisk has much against Fear Manip and Soul Manip

 

[EnderLord8]

I doubt Frisk has much against Fear Manip and Soul Manip

I mean Fear Manipulation is not in her profile and Frisk has some degree of resistance to soul manipulation

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I mean Fear Manipulation is not in her profile and Frisk has some degree of resistance to soul manipulation

Well, I meant her Illusions like those she made on Jessica and Asriel, my bad. And her soul manip is more of crashing soul, but I don’t. She will also know everything about Frisk after looking at them.

 

[EnderLord8]

Well, I meant her Illusions like those she made on Jessica and Asriel, my bad.

Well, it really depends on how much Betty uses illusion manipulation, does she spam it? Furthermore, I believe that sleep manipulation or ACT Head Up is not something Betty can avoid even with the creation of illusions

And her soul manip is more of crashing soul, but I don’t.

Can you explain to me in more detail how this works?

She will also know everything about Frisk after looking at them.

I mean, Frisk has a check, which while it doesn't tell you everything, generally gives enough answers on how to deal with your enemies, the information from the check can even do things like read thoughts in some cases.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Well, it really depends on how much Betty uses illusion manipulation, does she spam it?

It is basically what she starts with.

Furthermore, I believe that sleep manipulation or ACT Head Up is not something Betty can avoid even with the creation of illusions

Sleep Manip?

Can you explain to me in more detail how this works?

Look at this and start 1:25. Basically she takes away the soul and Akumu eats it, and the host of the soul dies. Pretty sure it would work regardless of HPs.

I mean, Frisk has a check, which while it doesn't tell you everything, generally gives enough answers on how to deal with your enemies, the information from the check can even do things like read thoughts in some cases.

Frisk needs time to do it, Betty’s information analysis works on just looking at someone.

 

[EnderLord8]

It is basically what she starts with.

Well, how often does she use it? Will she abuse it a lot or will she use it in spaced periods of time? I mean Glitchtale Frisk has no resistance to it and they fought it well

Sleep Manip?

• Sleep Manipulation (Can make Knight Knight go to sleep by singing Shyren's song)

Look at this and start 1:25. Basically she takes away the soul and Akumu eats it, and the host of the soul dies. Pretty sure it would work regardless of HPs.

I mean wouldn't this shatter Frisk's soul and make them activate their temporal resurrection?

Frisk needs time to do it, Betty’s information analysis works on just looking at someone.

Well, fair point, hers is better, but I don't think it's really decisive

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Well, how often does she use it? Will she abuse it a lot or will she use it in spaced periods of time? I mean Glitchtale Frisk has no resistance to it and they fought it well

She uses Soul Manip pretty much with everyone, she killed Sans and Asriel with that and used Illusion Creatiok on Toriel to make her kill Asgore. And she almost did the same thing to Glitchtale Frisk, but Asriel came in (and then he died exactly to Soul Manip lol).
Betty would also know it isn’t “her” Frisk because of Information Analysis.

• Sleep Manipulation (Can make Knight Knight go to sleep by singing Shyren's song)

Eh, pretty sure it is due to Knight Knight already being sleepy, meanwhile Betty does not need to sleep at all as it says in the profile.

I mean wouldn't this shatter Frisk's soul and make them activate their temporal resurrection?

No, soul does not shatter, the body goes to dust and Betty keeps the soul and it’s basically under her control, she can use the absorped souls to make her fight others, like she made Sans fight Frisk and Papyrus and Asriel fight Chara and others.

Well, fair point, hers is better, but I don't think it's really decisive

Well Betty uses Information Analysis to show the opponent exactly what they fear, like friends dying, etc. And this would also mean she would start fighting based on the knowledge way faster than Frisk, who would not know anything about Betty so she can just start Illusion Creation and Soul Manip.

I vote Betty anyways, although it could be a stomp.

(Also I take back about “crashing” soul, it’s more of absorbing and taking under control — I haven’t watched Glitchtale for a while so sorry on that-)

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

This battle should be moved to the FC/OC fourms, as that's where matches involving FC/OCs such as Betty are

 

[EnderLord8]

She uses Soul Manip pretty much with everyone, she killed Sans and Asriel with that and used Illusion Creatiok on Toriel to make her kill Asgore. And she almost did the same thing to Glitchtale Frisk, but Asriel came in (and then he died exactly to Soul Manip lol).

I really wanted to know how much she uses illusion creation on her character, if it's frequent and such, but seeing some deja fights, I see that she abuses it a lot, although it's still enough for Frisk to have the opportunity to land some blows.

Anyway, as for soul manipulation, it seems to work from energy spears that pierce the body and hit the soul, it seems that for soul manipulation to have an effect, it would have to go through Frisk's durability which is approximately 5.44x Betty's AP , and considering that Frisk will be on the move and their ability to dodge, it would not be an easy task for Betty.

Betty would also know it isn’t “her” Frisk because of Information Analysis.

what?

Eh, pretty sure it is due to Knight Knight already being sleepy, meanwhile Betty does not need to sleep at all as it says in the profile.

Heh, Heat Up is still an extremely deadly option for dealing with Betty

No, soul does not shatter, the body goes to dust and Betty keeps the soul and it’s basically under her control, she can use the absorped souls to make her fight others, like she made Sans fight Frisk and Papyrus and Asriel fight Chara and others.

Okay, this is ominous, if Frisk gets their soul caught, it's game over

Well Betty uses Information Analysis to show the opponent exactly what they fear, like friends dying, etc. And this would also mean she would start fighting based on the knowledge way faster than Frisk, who would not know anything about Betty so she can just start Illusion Creation and Soul Manip.

Well, I don't think Betty has any illusion option that can mess with Frisk, considering that they well... didn't show any specific fear to use? I believe that the illusion creation would only be used to deceive Frisk about Betty's true location and use surprise attacks.

I vote Betty anyways, although it could be a stomp.

count

(Also I take back about “crashing” soul, it’s more of absorbing and taking under control — I haven’t watched Glitchtale for a while so sorry on that-)

Understandable, it's been so long since I watched Glitchtale that it forgets a lot of what Betty is capable of.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I really wanted to know how much she uses illusion creation on her character, if it's frequent and such, but seeing some deja fights, I see that she abuses it a lot, although it's still enough for Frisk to have the opportunity to land some blows.

By SBA they would start at highest range possible, but it's true that Frisk might shoot some times since they have access to Yellow Mode, but I'm pretty sure that Betty dodges and uses her hax to win.

Anyway, as for soul manipulation, it seems to work from energy spears that pierce the body and hit the soul, it seems that for soul manipulation to have an effect, it would have to go through Frisk's durability which is approximately 5.44x Betty's AP , and considering that Frisk will be on the move and their ability to dodge, it would not be an easy task for Betty.

Pretty sure the scythe was supposed to ignore durability.
Anyways, soul is not in the "body" in Undertale, I guess? It's not explicity specified in the game, though, so I guess we will go by how it works in Glitchtale.
(I also just noticed that it is 8-A vs 8-B fight). I am still sure Betty outhaxes both defensively and offensively, so she would get there in the end.

what?

Betty wouldn't confuse canon Frisk with Glitchtale Frisk. Which is why I said "her" Frisk: like, from "her" universe.

Heh, Heat Up is still an extremely deadly option for dealing with Betty

Heat Up?

Okay, this is ominous, if Frisk gets their soul caught, it's game over

Yup, that's true, although I am still not sure if Betty would have to penetrate the body as in Glitchtale or will it just "appear" like in Undertale or something. I'll go with needing to pierce the body to make battle more interesting (and otherwise it would probably be a stomp).

Well, I don't think Betty has any illusion option that can mess with Frisk, considering that they well... didn't show any specific fear to use? I believe that the illusion creation would only be used to deceive Frisk about Betty's true location and use surprise attacks.

Well, in Neutral Route Frisk is still kind so there should probably be some things, but even if we assume there are not, then Betty can just do what you said.
Also Betty doesn't only use it to show what people "fear" but also for things like this, this and this. Frisk also saw a car that wasn't there. So it's pretty good even without specific fears.

count

Understandable, it's been so long since I watched Glitchtale that it forgets a lot of what Betty is capable of.

Same, I don't remember many things and even major ones. Man I need to rewatch it, series were good enough to be rewatched.

 

[EnderLord8]

By SBA they would start at highest range possible, but it's true that Frisk might shoot some times since they have access to Yellow Mode, but I'm pretty sure that Betty dodges and uses her hax to win.

Shit, I completely forgot about the distance, I didn't want them both to start so far away!

Is it okay if I change the distance to make them closer? Like about 10 meters?

Pretty sure the scythe was supposed to ignore durability.
Anyways, soul is not in the "body" in Undertale, I guess? It's not explicity specified in the game, though, so I guess we will go by how it works in Glitchtale.
(I also just noticed that it is 8-A vs 8-B fight). I am still sure Betty outhaxes both defensively and offensively, so she would get there in the end.

I mean in undertale the soul only seems to be pulled when you fight monsters? I mean, Flowey kind of needed to teach how the battle thing works in the beginning like it wasn't standard knowledge... But IDK...

This also means that the core has a durability of 329.95 tons which would also make drilling difficult I imagine.

Betty wouldn't confuse canon Frisk with Glitchtale Frisk. Which is why I said "her" Frisk: like, from "her" universe.

oh, ok

Heat Up?

• Heat Up: Frisk heats up the battlefield to be incredibly hot even in the context of Hotland, which is already so hot that even its outskirts are capable of instantly melting a styrofoam cup full of water. This move can stack if used multiple times.

It's listed in the notable techniques/attacks section, so it's a viable ACT option.

Yup, that's true, although I am still not sure if Betty would have to penetrate the body as in Glitchtale or will it just "appear" like in Undertale or something. I'll go with needing to pierce the body to make battle more interesting (and otherwise it would probably be a stomp).

Well Betty's soul manipulation is different from the soul manipulation of monsters in canon Undertale... So I suppose we should base it on Glitchtale for that

Well, in Neutral Route Frisk is still kind so there should probably be some things,

Well there are some neutral routes that are based on killing everyone but a single monster, so... IDK?

but even if we assume there are not, then Betty can just do what you said.
Also Betty doesn't only use it to show what people "fear" but also for things like this, this and this. Frisk also saw a car that wasn't there. So it's pretty good even without specific fears.

true

Same, I don't remember many things and even major ones. Man I need to rewatch it, series were good enough to be rewatched.

True, it also doesn't help that it's been so long since the last episode.

 

[EnderLord8]

bump?

 

[EnderLord8]

bump

 

[EnderLord8]

bump???

 

[EnderLord8]

I think that due to the last CRT that Frisk had, this match becomes a stomp because of type 8 immortality, since Betty has no way to stop Frisk from coming back to life...

 

[EnderLord8]

bump, Okay, I'll continue a little longer to see if this is a stomp