Ainz Ooal Gown vs Grim

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Ainz Ooal Gown

Ainz Ooal Gown (アインズ・ウール・ゴウン), formerly known as Momonga (モモンガ), is the main protagonist of Overlord. He is the guildmaster of Ainz Ooal Gown and regarded as the highest of the Almighty 41 Supreme Beings by the NPCs of the Great Tomb of Nazarick. As the Sorcerer King of the Sorcerous Kingdom...

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Grim (Billy and Mandy)

Grim is the main protagonist of the cartoon series The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. After losing to the kids at limbo, he is forced to be their best friend for all of eternity, much to his chagrin. Tier: 8-A, Unknown with the Reaper's Scythe via reality warping Name: Grim Origin: The Grim...

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[Nonynho]

First of all, correct the name that my Lord Momonga chose to attend for as this is an offense against him! I demand to be properly written "Ainz Ooal Gown"!!!!!

Ainz has access to layered Time Stop and afaik layered death hax, while grim resists death only once...so we can already start here

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

First of all, correct the name that my Lord Momonga chose to attend for as this is an offense against him! I demand to be properly written "Ainz Ooal Gown"!!!!!

Ainz has access to layered Time Stop and afaik layered death hax, while grim resists death only once...so we can already start here

Ainz's layered death hax is only when he has his staff, which isn't standard equipment. Though he does have a bunch of skills that can overcome resistances, only the Goal of All Life can bypass an immunity to death (which Grim's profile labels it as)

 

[Nonynho]

Imo if he timestops, uses his favorite spell and it doesn't work
Time Stop again and tgoalid
Which is gg

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

Ainz's layered death hax is only when he has his staff, which isn't standard equipment. Though he does have a bunch of skills that can overcome resistances, only the Goal of All Life can bypass an immunity to death (which Grim's profile labels it as)

Ainz can access his weapons by reaching into his inventory (basically opening small portals to access his items), which is listed on his pf. He has access to his staff if he wants it.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Ainz can access his weapons by reaching into his inventory (basically opening small portals to access his items), which is listed on his pf. He has access to his staff if he wants it.

I'm aware of that, but it doesn't apply to the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown. That thing always stays in the Nazarick and is guarded in the 8th floor's Cherry Blossom Sanctuary, not on his person. With the staff he is seen holding for most of the series just being a fake replica of it.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Imo if he timestops, uses his favorite spell and it doesn't work
Time Stop again and tgoalid
Which is gg

Never said Ainz doesn't reliably win, just saying that his usual death hax wouldn't work without his staff. But that wouldn't matter since Ainz wouldn't try his favorite spell to begin with since he'd just assume that since Grim is a undead skeleton that he'd have an immunity to it. More than likely Ainz starts off with Black Hole or Hell Flame, neither of which Grim can resist (just noticed that nowhere on Ainz's profile does it mention that Overlord hellfire is capable of burning souls, despite it showing on Demiurge's profile)

 

[DaReaperMan]

Let's go over this thread from someone who knows both series and ignore that Grim is in EXTREME need for a rework

Grim is a physical melee fighter, it's what he enjoys the most and is one to **** around in a fight.

Ainz is a paranoid fighter who assumes any unknown is stronger than him and time stops before Christmas tree-ing with numerous spells to test resistances

Grim will generally only hax someone if they are a direct threat Billy, Mandy, and himself at the same time

Ainz primarily uses hax and will never enter melee unless he's got Perfect Warrior or it's necessary.

So yeah Ainz stomps badly... if you don't hand him a restriction: Limiting him to Perfect Warrior AKA Low 7-C physical stats.

Now Grim still is at a 2x AP disadvantage and really only fights other brute force characters like Hoss Delgado but he's not stomped, he's just getting his bony ass beat

 

[DaReaperMan]

man

what if i make Grim bloodlusted

Ainz resists Grim's instant win options and his wincons are faster then literally everything Grim has anyway.

 

[Nonynho]

well, if that's no stomp, lemme make it clear that i'm voting Momonga

 

[Dannyphantom123]

Ainz's immunities and hax generally give him the edge, and although he's not nearly as experienced as Grim due to the massive age gap, he was not only a great PVP fighter in the game, but he's also spent time learning how to fight physically in the New World. He's pretty strong physically as well, given he's a magic caster, and he has experience fighting against both other magic casters and melee fighters due to his fight with Shalltear. Ainz also just has counters to a lot of stuff Grim could try. I don't even know if the Time Hall would be a good way to kill Ainz, since he has a ring that grants him immunity to time manipulation—granted, that was mostly just time stop in the game, but it's not like other abilities haven't gotten stronger in the New World than they were in the game. However, that's not a guarantee by any means.

Obviously, Ainz's trump card here would be The Goal of All Life is Death.

The real question here is: would Grim's scythe count as a world item? Here's my view on it: Overlord has shown that things of significant enough power can be considered a world item effect by the items, despite not being one. Wild magic used by the Dragon Lords, for example. Not only do the effects of wild magic count as world item effects, but we know that Ainz would be protected against direct attacks by them as well, due to the Vampire Princess bonus novel. While it's not canon, it was still written by the same person and is backed up by canon. The Undead Dragon Lord used a wild magic breath attack that would have destroyed Ainz's soul, but his red orb world item protected him. In canon, the world item was able to bypass the world isolation barrier of the Platinum Dragon Lord. If that's the case, I have to think that Grim's scythe would count as a world item. Likely, that would mean neither could use their world items against each other. Given who Ainz is and how he fights, he would not stay got a fight until death. He'd retreat after gaining Intel of his opponent's abilities, and after learning enough, prepare countermeasures and come back to take him down, unless otherwise unable to retreat. I do not think it would be an easy fight but I do think Ainz would win more times than not.

 

[Dragonite007]

Ainz's immunities and hax generally give him the edge, and although he's not nearly as experienced as Grim due to the massive age gap, he was not only a great PVP fighter in the game, but he's also spent time learning how to fight physically in the New World. He's pretty strong physically as well, given he's a magic caster, and he has experience fighting against both other magic casters and melee fighters due to his fight with Shalltear. Ainz also just has counters to a lot of stuff Grim could try. I don't even know if the Time Hall would be a good way to kill Ainz, since he has a ring that grants him immunity to time manipulation—granted, that was mostly just time stop in the game, but it's not like other abilities haven't gotten stronger in the New World than they were in the game. However, that's not a guarantee by any means.

Obviously, Ainz's trump card here would be The Goal of All Life is Death.

The real question here is: would Grim's scythe count as a world item? Here's my view on it: Overlord has shown that things of significant enough power can be considered a world item effect by the items, despite not being one. Wild magic used by the Dragon Lords, for example. Not only do the effects of wild magic count as world item effects, but we know that Ainz would be protected against direct attacks by them as well, due to the Vampire Princess bonus novel. While it's not canon, it was still written by the same person and is backed up by canon. The Undead Dragon Lord used a wild magic breath attack that would have destroyed Ainz's soul, but his red orb world item protected him. In canon, the world item was able to bypass the world isolation barrier of the Platinum Dragon Lord. If that's the case, I have to think that Grim's scythe would count as a world item. Likely, that would mean neither could use their world items against each other. Given who Ainz is and how he fights, he would not stay got a fight until death. He'd retreat after gaining Intel of his opponent's abilities, and after learning enough, prepare countermeasures and come back to take him down, unless otherwise unable to retreat. I do not think it would be an easy fight but I do think Ainz would win more times than not.

Ainz:

Undead Domination!
Now give me the scythe and end yourself.

Stomp

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

momonga beats DaRepearMan
fra

 

[Wonder_of_Fantasy]

Funny skellington man FRA

 

[AthelChan]

I thought this as Grim from black souls, holy shit my heart sank.

 

[AthelChan]

Ainz resists Grim's instant win options and his wincons are faster then literally everything Grim has anyway.

ur dead bud, Ainz FRA

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's a stomp why ya'll voting lmfao

 

[AthelChan]

 

[Wonder_of_Fantasy]

It's a stomp why ya'll voting lmfao

whatever, GO GURASPU HATTO

 

[Nonynho]

It's a stomp why ya'll voting lmfao

Apparently they hate you lol