Lloyd Garmadon vs Cat Noir

[REX9097]

Lloyd Garmadon (Ninjago) vs Cat Noir (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir)
Key: Cat Noir is restricted to his Cat Noir (Seasons 1 & 2), (Season 3 & New York Special) and Cat Blanc
Lloyd Garmadon has his Post-Power Drain and Dragon Rising
Both go ALL OUT from the beginning

Rules:
Both are restricted to Universal+
Range, Abilities and Attack Potency (Cat Noir not have Universal+ Durability and Striking Strength, but Lloyd have Universal+ Striking Strength and Durability)

Speed not Equalised

Fight takes place in: in the planet free of life

Starting Distance: 50 Meters

Lloyd Garmadon: @Lloydblitzed

Cat Noir:

Inconclusive:

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Lloyd is immune to Cat Blanc's Mind Manip, and as seen in DR S2, he can just spam his energy blasts until Cat Blanc dies. And on top of that, Lloyd can pull Spinjitzu
I vote Lloyd

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This is a stomp, Cat Blanc doesn't have Uni+ durability, only AP

 

[REX9097]

This is a stomp, Cat Blanc doesn't have Uni+ durability, only AP

Oh I forgot to clear Universe+ S. Strength and Durability

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

bit confused on this match up is it just not speed equalize but we allowed Dr stuff?

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

if so DR S2

Spoiler: DR S2 spoil

says you can't bend the motion of the Universe to your will but have to flow with it.

anywho lloyd probably noirs main advantage is mind mani and from what i've seen lloyd has resistance to it

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

What stops Cat Blanc from firing a Mega Cataclysm at Lloyd to finish the match right here? The mind manip isn't really something that's likely to happen as it requires Cat Blanc's akuma to be removed and then come to Lloyd and akumatize him

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

What stops Cat Blanc from firing a Mega Cataclysm at Lloyd to finish the match right here? The mind manip isn't really something that's likely to happen as it requires Cat Blanc's akuma to be removed and then come to Lloyd and akumatize him

How did you find this
Would Forcefield creation help Lloyd?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

What stops Cat Blanc from firing a Mega Cataclysm at Lloyd to finish the match right here? The mind manip isn't really something that's likely to happen as it requires Cat Blanc's akuma to be removed and then come to Lloyd and akumatize him

Lloyd has Corruption and Mind Hax resistances...

Lloyd can legit use Spinjitzu and blitz + one tap throught AP amp

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Lloyd has Corruption and Mind Hax resistances...

Lloyd can legit use Spinjitzu and blitz + one tap throught AP amp

Cat Blanc doesn’t have Low 2-C durability anyways. His AP is based on Deconstruction (that’s how he defeated Goku)

Also, can we wait until Ninjago major CRT is closed?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Lloyd has Corruption and Mind Hax resistances...

Lloyd can legit use Spinjitzu and blitz + one tap throught AP amp

Mind Hax and Corruption are irrelevant to this fight, and would spinjitsu stop that attack? Lloyd is unaware of the destructive nature of cataclysm so I doubt he'll find it much different than other energy blasts he fought against

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Cat Blanc doesn’t have Low 2-C durability anyways. His AP is based on Deconstruction (that’s how he defeated Goku)

Also, can we wait until Ninjago major CRT is closed?

If Ninjago is in a crt rn it's best to wait until it's over

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Mind Hax and Corruption are irrelevant to this fight, and would spinjitsu stop that attack? Lloyd is unaware of the destructive nature of cataclysm so I doubt he'll find it much different than other energy blasts he fought against

That doesn't matter, since Spinjitzu and RDT is part of his In-Character, and again, Cat Blanc will get blitzed

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

If Ninjago is in a crt rn it's best to wait until it's over

I agree

That doesn't matter, since Spinjitzu and RDT is part of his In-Character, and again, Cat Blanc will get blitzed

Let’s wait until that CRT is over

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If speed isn't equal then Cat can do nothing since he's blitzed and one shot

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

If speed isn't equal then Cat can do nothing since he's blitzed and one shot

Both are FTL, no?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

If speed isn't equal then Cat can do nothing since he's blitzed and one shot

Their speed is equal but Spinjitzu and RDT are allowed and both of those abilities is a Blitz level Speed amp

Let’s wait until that CRT is over

Aight

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Both are FTL, no?

Cat Noir is only FTL in reactions, not in travel speed

 

[Lort15]

Lloyd FRA

 

[DavidTPPM]

I'm not really interested in the match up ngl but what exactly stops Cat from just, yk, blasting Lloyd with a multi galaxy sized MFTL+ deconstruction which outscales his reaction speed by gajillion times?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I'm not really interested in the match up ngl but what exactly stops Cat from just, yk, blasting Lloyd with a multi galaxy sized MFTL+ deconstruction which outscales his reaction speed by gajillion times?

Spinjitzu, just like in Kai vs. Cat Blanc matchup

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I'm not really interested in the match up ngl but what exactly stops Cat from just, yk, blasting Lloyd with a multi galaxy sized MFTL+ deconstruction which outscales his reaction speed by gajillion times?

Lloyd can speedblitz throught Spinjitzu's Combat speed (which is fair considering Cataclysm is also a blitz lvl attack, but requires him to charge)

 

[DavidTPPM]

Lloyd can speedblitz throught Spinjitzu's Combat speed (which is fair considering Cataclysm is also a blitz lvl attack, but requires him to charge)

Is speed blitzing in character for Lloyd? It's been ages since I've watched ninjago but I definitely don't remember him as someone who instantly used spinjutsu to speed blitz as their opening move.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Is speed blitzing in character for Lloyd? It's been ages since I've watched ninjago but I definitely don't remember him as someone who instantly used spinjutsu to speed blitz as their opening move.

Ye, Spinjitzu is his most in-char move besides Energy blasts, and we see him start a fight with Spinjitzu many, many, many times

 

[DavidTPPM]

Ye, Spinjitzu is his most in-char move besides Energy blasts, and we see him start a fight with Spinjitzu many, many, many times

Those don't look super convincing since they seem like he's just trying to run through fodder grunts, not actually fight a real opponent but sure idc.

Doesn't that make the match a complete stomp? I mean Kai literally already overwhelmingly won against Cat for the same reason Lloyd would win and Lloyd is literally just stronger than Kai iirc. Even the rules make this impossible because Cat is basically a statue compared to Lloyd even without a perception tier blitz amp

 

[DavidTPPM]

This should probably closed as a stomp ngl. Cat gets blitzed and one tapped.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This should probably closed as a stomp ngl. Cat gets blitzed and one tapped.

Kai vs Cat Blanc didn’t tbh

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Lloyd has a lot more abilities compared to Kai being the green ninja. Besides, it's just a repeat of Kai VS Cat Blanc

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Kai vs Cat Blanc didn’t tbh

It actually did. The only reason it was even added it because there was an argument of Cat Blanc somehow destroying Kai even though Kai blitzes, especially if the spinjitsu speed upgrade is happening

EDIT: They didn't specify keys but it's either Cat Noir or Blanc. With Blanc it's a repeat of Kai VS Blanc but worse as Lloyd is much stronger than Kai, and Cat Noir isn't even Low 2-C at all in any way and would just die to Lloyd doing anything

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Those don't look super convincing since they seem like he's just trying to run through fodder grunts, not actually fight a real opponent but sure idc.

Ras is not a fodder grunt

 

[DavidTPPM]

Yeah this is a stomp match up. I would say borderline spite match up since Cat has already suffered an overwhelming loss against what's basically a weaker version of Lloyd…

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

It actually did. The only reason it was even added it because there was an argument of Cat Blanc somehow destroying Kai even though Kai blitzes, especially if the spinjitsu speed upgrade is happening

You can propose this in matchups removal thread if you want to

Yeah this is a stomp match up. I would say borderline spite match up since Cat has already suffered an overwhelming loss against what's basically a weaker version of Lloyd…

This match was created way before Kai vs. Cat Blanc

 

[Lloydblitzed]

It actually did. The only reason it was even added it because there was an argument of Cat Blanc somehow destroying Kai even though Kai blitzes, especially if the spinjitsu speed upgrade is happening

Cat Blanc would've one shotted Kai if not for Spinjitzu, and he had a massive Attack Speed advantage once his Cataclysm would be activated

 

[DavidTPPM]

This match was created way before Kai vs. Cat Blanc

Oh, makes sense. My bad.

Still a stomp tho

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Cat Blanc would've one shotted Kai if not for Spinjitzu, and he had a massive Attack Speed advantage once his Cataclysm would be activated

Cat need to land the Cataclysm to win, and since Lloyd (and Kai) blitz him, he wouldn't activate it before they one shot him, especially with their speed amps

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Cat need to land the Cataclysm to win, and since Lloyd (and Kai) blitz him, he wouldn't activate it before they one shot him, especially with their speed amps

Cat would've just expanded a huge cataclysm and deco Kai, the argument was also that he burns Cat throught a huge fire barrage before Cataclysm is ready.

Edit: Im arguing why Kai vs Cat isn't a stomp, not that Lloyd vs Cat is not a stomp

 

[Lort15]

why so ftl

 

[Arkansalter2]

Lloyd FRA

 

[Lort15]

Lloyd Goatmadon