Binah vs Juiz

[ShadeyD]

Binah in her Arbiter key
Starting distance is 20 meters
Speed equal

Juiz: @rogueprestonian
Binah: @Topaz404 @Polandballczechball @Cahtt

 

[ShadeyD]

Bump

 

[Polandballczechball]

Ngl you seem a little excited with these recent Binah threads

 

[ShadeyD]

Ngl you seem a little excited with these recent Binah threads

It's the only profile I can use

 

[Polandballczechball]

Thats fair ig

 

[Topaz404]

So whats stopping Binah from using the good old combo of Lock, Chain, and then beat the ever living shit out of Juiz while Juiz can basically do fvck all lol

 

[Spinoirr]

So whats stopping Binah from using the good old combo of Lock, Chain, and then beat the ever living shit out of Juiz while Juiz can basically do fvck all lol

• Law Negation of Self Justice, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 - All negators either negate their own rule or negate the rule of others[11]. Juiz can negate people's vision of justice forcing them to go against it[12] with this working on the fleet of aliens. On different occasions it can be from simply causing the fighter to stop fighting to outright trying to kill themselves or those around them[13]. These rules are considered fundamental or necessary and removal of them causes what they rule over to be removed from the world such as insects being removed when Uma Insect was killed, this is shown with others as well. For a more in depth detailing refer to Uma pages like Seal)
  • Limited Emotion Vision (Unjustice allows one to peer into one's heart, seeing their vision of justice. These visions of justice appear to be simplistic as only mere quotes or cliches such as "one bound to protect", "one bound to live and lead", and "one bound to fight powerful foes to become stronger"[14])

 

[Topaz404]

I mean, that assumes that Binah just doesnt instantly start assaulting Juiz with attacks. Juiz doesnt resist PALE damage at all- and due to Dura Neg, 7-B Durability wont matter
Regarding with what Binah would start with, probably Shockwave- while it wont cause a bunch of Meltdowns

Given that Binah is- well, quite intelligent, she would pick up that Juiz is screwing with her Singularities and opt for Spikes or Waves
(i thought WHITE damage covered Morality Manip, i guess not anymore)

 

[Spinoirr]

I mean, that assumes that Binah just doesnt instantly start assaulting Juiz with attacks. Juiz doesnt resist PALE damage at all- and due to Dura Neg, 7-B Durability wont matter
Regarding with what Binah would start with, probably Shockwave- while it wont cause a bunch of Meltdowns

Given that Binah is- well, quite intelligent, she would pick up that Juiz is screwing with her Singularities and opt for Spikes or Waves
(i thought WHITE damage covered Morality Manip, i guess not anymore)

All Juiz needs to do to activate Unjustice is just take off her helmet and look at them

 

[Topaz404]

I do wish to ask though, why was Morality Manip removed from WHITE damage? Just curious is all

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah not only is the tier difference big, but Juiz gets outhaxxed or just causes Binah to surrender or kill herself.

 

[Arkenis]

I mean regardless of why it was removed, if it wasn't cm 2 morality resistance it won't matter

 

[Topaz404]

I mean, if OE is given, Binah gets speed amps and Power Null with Abno Pages, so truth be told, shes gonna strike first- and one strike of PALE and Juiz is dead

 

[Arkenis]

Make this slightly more interesting, give Juiz prep for Spoil, Rebellion, and Aegis.

Also Juiz could call Move to BFR Binah

 

[Topaz404]

Binah just smites her with Fairy while Juiz is busy taking off her helmet. It’s as simple as that

 

[Arkenis]

Binah just smites her with Fairy while Juiz is busy taking off her helmet. It’s as simple as that

Yeah that's dumb. There's no reason Juiz's entering this fight with her helmet on lmao. She didn't do that to Billy or while fighting God.

 

[Arkenis]

Taking a second glance,
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2. The Fairy singularity of F Corp. and the Lock singularity of J Corp. are both capable of respectively opening and closing things on a physical or conceptual level, including people. Examples given have included opening people, opening Abnormality containment units, opening attacks, locking physical objects, locking people, locking away abilities, locking an area of space, locking a body to prevent dissection, and more[1]),

This might just be a stomp. Negations aren't really "abilities" more that they're the negation of the laws in the world, so if Binah's cm can lock away powernull cm type 2 then its a stomp.

Edit: Also would need to interact with souls.

 

[Topaz404]

Yeah, i just mentioned that Binah is just going to use her Lock and Chain combo right at the start. You could see power and the nullification of it as concepts.....soooo. Even if she couldnt lock that away, she could just lock Juiz's movement and go ham

Or just open her right up and let the gore fireworks fly

Edit 2: Binah can harm incorporeal and abstract entities, and part of PALE damage is soul manip anyways, so yeah Binah has that covered too

 

[Polandballczechball]

Truly the power of project moon

 

[Topaz404]

Anyways i vote the Arbiter FRA

 

[Polandballczechball]

Same

Binah FRA

 

[Arkenis]

its a stomp. no reason to vote on this

 

[Cahtt]

At 20 meters away Binah has a massive advantage, she can stomp absurdly.

FRA, I vote Binah

 

[Polandballczechball]

bro did not read the thread

 

[Topaz404]

How does Binah not just absolutely flatten Juiz? Range advantage, hax advantage, just use the Singularities on Juiz and thats gg no re

 

[ShadeyD]

Why are people necro'ing my thread

 

[rogueprestonian]

Hold on yall, I gotta disagree. First off, Juiz never starts with her helmet if she knows she is entering a fight that she doesn’t have enough information on. We see this in Loop 100 in the Billy fight for Winter, Spring fight, and Ragnarok.

The only time she is ever limited by her helmet is in peaceful scenarios as to prevent herself from inconveniencing her allies or in victory guaranteed situations like the Acks after the birth of UMA Galaxy or Victor during Spoil so the WHITE and PALE damage while she takes off her helmet scenario doesn’t happen.
Now the question is what is Binah(Calling her Garion from now on since it is Arbiter Key)’s sense of Justice and in her Arbiter key would be quickly and efficiently eliminating the target of the Head being Juiz in this case.
This causes Juiz to probably be unable to move at best or at worst kill herself.

For that reason I vote Juiz, Garion has Juiz beat in every category but Unjustice is too potent without prep especially since we know she always starts with it against enemies she lacks information about.

 

[Cahtt]

bro did not read the thread

I did schlawg, but all comments are really old, so I had to reiterate