Third times the charm (Kirito vs. Yang)

[Deleted member 15008]

Doing another Rematch because the other one was controversial but also infinitely stacking Burn was a key part of the Yang arguments (and is bunk) alongside the fact I just wanna see how this plays out.
Kirito (Aincrad) vs. Yang Xiao Long

• Speed Equalized
• Both are in character
• Floor’s 50-75 Kirito vs. Beacon Yang
• Win via Incapacitation or Death

The Black Swordsman:

Yanger Issues:

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Just want to get a big wincon out of the way for Kirito, his crazy ability to heal and what not. Battle Healing won't matter as much given Yang has the AP Advantage, but if this quote is anything to go off, he probably can just out last her while still dealing damage.
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For context, he is about to take on 3 high level PKers in SAO, going out of his way to state he could take all 3 of them on for 10 minutes. That coupled with the fact that Healing Crystals are instant heals and potions do massive amounts of passive healing, he would have... a lot, safe to say.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

this will be one of the match of our time

 

[DMUA]

Genuinely this really doesn't get more dynamic than it already has, Yang has 2x the AP (for reasons I disagree with, now that I look at it...) andgets more powerful by being hit, Kirito's options and skills just demonstrably aren't good at midigating that

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Genuinely this really doesn't get more dynamic than it already has, Yang has 2x the AP (for reasons I disagree with, now that I look at it...) andgets more powerful by being hit, Kirito's options and skills just demonstrably aren't good at midigating that

Well, I mean, one of Yang's only wincons was the fact that Weekly had convinced us into believing that she'd just get a 20x amp and one shot Kirito. Besides that, she only really has the fact she's a more skilled, but Kirito still has faster attack speed, crazy heals, Sword Skills, paralysis if he headshots Yang, game physiology, etc.

He's not a hax lord but he certainly has more.

 

[DMUA]

Well, I mean, one of Yang's only wincons was the fact that Weekly had convinced us into believing that she'd just get a 20x amp and one shot Kirito.

A 2x and further enhanceable AP gap is still very bad in the context of "wanting to live", it's just not Kirito's skull immediately imploding to a single strike.

Kirito still has faster attack speed

Sword Skills also lock you into a specific motion that can be predicted exploited even after the move is complete, a higher degree of skill is going to take that as a net benefit (especially when she has higher lifting strength and can just rip the swords out of his hand the moment she gets a hold, which would screw him up entirely)

crazy heals

For ten minutes, by Kirito's own admission and through a stalling tactic that has him burning items on a consistent basis. Yang's got the stamina to last through a lot of consecutive grimm fights throughout a given day, and if she just rushes him down while he's trying to get a heal off (or even grabs his hands outright, given he needs some degree of menu use to burn items), that's going to get moot fast.

paralysis if he headshots Yang

If, he headshots the small target of the more skilled opponent, and if that even works through forcefield (and if he even has it, looking at his page? Every mention of paralysis is instances of him resisting it)

game physiology, etc.

She benefits from this and more, given Aura's expressly compared to a shield mechanic and would bar him from drawing blood or causing problematic wounds, and she has more power to push her way through HP values anyhow.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Sword Skills also lock you into a specific motion that can be predicted exploited even after the move is complete, a higher degree of skill is going to take that as a net benefit (especially when she has higher lifting strength and can just rip the swords out of his hand the moment she gets a hold, which would screw him up entirely)

This gets mitigated with Skill Connect, which also alongside that even if he gets unnarmed he could get some other swords from his inventory or even use Martial Arts skills

A 2x and further enhanceable AP gap is still very bad in the context of "wanting to live", it's just not Kirito's skull immediately imploding to a single strike.

It's bad, yeah, but his advantages over her are still pretty good, it's not like Yang's skill makes up for her majorly

For ten minutes, by Kirito's own admission and through a stalling tactic that has him burning items on a consistent basis. Yang's got the stamina to last through a lot of consecutive grimm fights throughout a given day, and if she just rushes him down while he's trying to get a heal off (or even grabs his hands outright, given he needs some degree of menu use to burn items), that's going to get moot fast.

He doesn't actually need menu use to get crystals, they are just on people's person, or you can grab them from basically nothing. We know as much when they're out in the fields and when Godfree has them give them to him (plus he also says to just grab one off his person, which he can't do because he took them, lol). Also, Kirito has had similar things, his entire routine was getting 2 hours a sleep in a day so he could grind quests and enemies, he has some crazy stamina too, maybe even better. Also, that's a stalling tactic against 3 people, for 10 minutes. This is 1 person who will, be able to deal good damage, but it's a lot more manageable (especially when you consider he could teleport and return whenever with teleport crystals)

If, he headshots the small target of the more skilled opponent, and if that even works through forcefield (and if he even has it, looking at his page? Every mention of paralysis is instances of him resisting it)

Skill Connect REALLY helps this, being able to chain powerful Sword Skills into one another, many with varying effects and ESPECIALLY Vorpal Strike (2x the blade's length). Also forgot Arms Blast, Crits, and even crits for hitting specific parts of a person.

She benefits from this and more, given Aura's expressly compared to a shield mechanic and would bar him from drawing blood or causing problematic wounds, and she has more power to push her way through HP values anyhow.

I mean, not really like drawing blood is an important thing in SAO, I doubt he'd have much trouble with a forcefield

 

[Spinoirr]

Oh god here we go again...

AP: Just from their stats Yang is 3x stronger (1.1 Tons vs 3.41 Tons), and Yang has the exponential amp from Burn to stack on top of it.
Durability: Same as AP, and on top of Burn Yang also has her Aura to block hits.
Speed: Equalized.
Strength: Bit of a niche stat but given that Yang fights in CQC and has done grappling before, as well as the potential need to disarm Kirito, Class K vs Class 5 is a huge advantage for Yang.
Stamina: Relatively equal seeing as Kirito's infinite stamina is hard capped at his mental limit, meaning both can fight for around a day straight before needing rest.
Range: Yang by a longshot, the hundreds of meters range with Ember Celica means she can viably just range spam Kirito to death if need be and theres not much he can do to match it as his ranged shockwaves are only a fraction of Yang's range and theyre tied to his best moves.
Skill: Yang, no question. It was talked about in the previous two threads so just to sum it up: Yang has over a decade of formal combat training and experience and regularly fights people on par with her in terms of power and skill, and she is considered among the best fighters in the world. Kirito at this point has just shy of a year's worth of informal combat experience with no formal training, and the vast majority of opponents he faced were low level players who couldnt even harm him and fodder monsters. Kirito's skill also suffers from the fact that due to the mechanics of SAO's game system, his Sword Skills are not really a measure of skill as the attacks are just done automatically and his body just follows through the motions of the skill he chooses.

The only real advantage Kirito has is healing items which are better than Yang's regeneration, but it wont be enough to compensate for the disadvantage in every other category.

As for status effects, the only major one Kirito has is paralysis which requires him to make physical contact with the opponent with the opponent's head, which wont be possible due to Yang's Aura forcefield protecting her head.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Kirito at this point has just shy of a year's worth of informal combat experience with no formal training, and the vast majority of opponents he faced were low level players who couldnt even harm him and fodder monsters. Kirito's skill also suffers from the fact that due to the mechanics of SAO's game system, his Sword Skills are not really a measure of skill as the attacks are just done automatically and his body just follows through the motions of the skill he chooses.

This just isn't true, like at all. Kirito fought enemies much stronger or on par with him all the time. This narrative that he just fights plebs is false, it's just what's shown to us in the anime, even then it's still a measure of skill somewhat given how much he memorized about Aincrad.

Also, the chances of Yang just range spamming him seem very unlikely given her fighting style, even then he has Analytical Prediction.

I'm not really sold on Yang taking this, sure she's stronger but his ability to outlast and stack up stuff will eventually catch up until Yang dies, which, even then he still has to come back from death thing granted by Incarnation.

Also, if Yang just zones him out, he can just use the hiding skill and go invisible or the like, that would be pretty grave. A couple Sword Skills and Yang's aura is broken and then he just finishes her off with Starburst Stream or something.

 

[Spinoirr]

The keyword is majority. For every strong enemy he fought like Gleam Eyes, he fought 100 fodder mooks. And again, Yang has 10x the experience and actual combat training on top of that.

Yang has analytical prediction as well, and it's good enough to let her predict the moves of two world class assassins fighting her in tandem and actively trying to kill her.

That's the thing, he doesnt have the ability to outlast. Healing items arent saving him from his head being destroyed, and he has to actively use them, something Yang wont allow as items that do the same thing exist in RWBY.

It would take dozens of direct hits to completely destroy Yang's aura, and you're implying that she would just stand there and let him kill her without fighting back, dodging, or defending herself, which is just not true at all.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

The keyword is majority. For every strong enemy he fought like Gleam Eyes, he fought 100 fodder mooks. And again, Yang has 10x the experience and actual combat training on top of that.

experience isnt quantifiable nor should be used in a skill debate, there are characters that can pick up a sword for the first time and instantly solo sword masters with thousands of years of training. Combat training is also non quantifiable

Yang has analytical prediction as well, and it's good enough to let her predict the moves of two world class assassins fighting her in tandem and actively trying to kill her.

feats of the world class assassins? they might as well be fodder without that

That's the thing, he doesnt have the ability to outlast. Healing items arent saving him from his head being destroyed, and he has to actively use them, something Yang wont allow as items that do the same thing exist in RWBY.

if i am not wrong he has game phisiology which means targetting the pressure points or weaknesses wouldnt do anything since he doesnt experience physical damage

It would take dozens of direct hits to completely destroy Yang's aura, and you're implying that she would just stand there and let him kill her without fighting back, dodging, or defending herself, which is just not true at all.

iirc both are assumptions, how many hits on average does it take for an aura to be broken by somoeone of comparable AP?

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Also you say world class assassin like every person in SAO was some random 14 year old with no combat experience. People like PoH were actually trained military combatants and he was so good he even became a private instructor after SAO ended, alongside that, the fact Kirito thinks he can confidently fight 3 PKers who are probably the best 3 we know of (Johnny Black, Red Eyed XaXa, PoH) is actually saying a lot.

Plus it’s just a known fact that SAO Survivors during and after the game were or became prodigies, them being baked in the game so long and forced to survive constant perilous situations helped them develop extremely well, which plays into other VRMMO games they play. Kirito isn’t more skilled than Yang obviously (skillslop debates are stupid anyways) but it’s not so bad that he can’t do anything, in fact because of the setting you could argue Yang and Kirito are in equal footing.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Not a whole lot left to say, boils down to skill at this point

 

[Spinoirr]

To be fair, a very large portion of the SAO playerbase was in fact inexperienced, Kirito even had to mentor a handful of players himself so they wouldnt immediately die early on. And even then, even if they had some skill, the issue is that they also were nowhere near Kirito's level. Even if they were skilled, they couldnt do anything to Kirito because he was just way, way stronger than them. Like that one scene where Kirito is 'ambushed' by a group of people who are way lower level than him and he just stands completely still letting them hit him over and ovver because his stats and regeneration make it so they cant do any damage to him.

Also, Kirito didnt fight PoH at this point in the series, and the scenario youre referring to doesnt imply what you think it does in-context. Kirito was confident in his ability to stall PoH, XaXa, and Johnny long enough for backup to arrive because he had a ton of healing items, he didnt imply that he would be able to outright 3v1 them and win. XaXa in particular isnt really a good example because he explicitly had no prior combat training irl due to being a frail and sick person, and he only gained any notable skill after Kirito beat him 1v1 and sent him to prison, where he learned a bunch of sword skills by brute forcing the muscle memory into his body. And even then, every huntsmen in training from Atlas undergoes military training from childhood and Yang can match them no problem, so that point is moot.

Even if you take skill out of the equation entirely, Yang still has a major advantage in every category, solid ways to counter his offensive abilities, and experience fighting against and alongside people with Kirito's skillset.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

To be fair, a very large portion of the SAO playerbase was in fact inexperienced, Kirito even had to mentor a handful of players himself so they wouldnt immediately die early on. And even then, even if they had some skill, the issue is that they also were nowhere near Kirito's level. Even if they were skilled, they couldnt do anything to Kirito because he was just way, way stronger than them. Like that one scene where Kirito is 'ambushed' by a group of people who are way lower level than him and he just stands completely still letting them hit him over and ovver because his stats and regeneration make it so they cant do any damage to him.

The mentoring part... didn't happen? This is like hilarious to me because I'm wondering if you've read or watched SAO properly because the only person he "mentored" was Klein for less than 24 hours, and The Moonlight Black Cats which, even then, he just nudged them in the right directions because if he had actually done so he would have revealed his real level.
SAO, and especially the anime doesn't do a good job of showing the between of Aincrad. It doesn't take a genius to fill in the blanks and recognize there were people on his level or stronger than him that he fought and matched up against with regularly, pretending like a majority of people he fought were just weaklings is highly nonsensical.

Also, Kirito didnt fight PoH at this point in the series, and the scenario youre referring to doesnt imply what you think it does in-context. Kirito was confident in his ability to stall PoH, XaXa, and Johnny long enough for backup to arrive because he had a ton of healing items, he didnt imply that he would be able to outright 3v1 them and win. XaXa in particular isnt really a good example because he explicitly had no prior combat training irl due to being a frail and sick person, and he only gained any notable skill after Kirito beat him 1v1 and sent him to prison, where he learned a bunch of sword skills by brute forcing the muscle memory into his body. And even then, every huntsmen in training from Atlas undergoes military training from childhood and Yang can match them no problem, so that point is moot.

Yes he did? Kirito has had a couple run ins with PoH, this is Floor 50-75 Kirito, you know, Kirito at the end of the game? It is mentioned that Kirito and others had fought PoH and survived, once again, if you don't know what you're talking about don't pretend to. Also stalling still includes having to fight them, I doubt they'd just be chasing him around for a while, especially considering this is a 3 on 1.
Xaxa had skill, he was a feared member of Laughing Coffin and acting like he only got it while in prison is stupid. He just etched the motions of the Sword Skills into his muscle memory so when he had another interaction with Kirito he could finally kill him and because there was nothing to do in prison.
Also... Yang isn't a hunstmen in training from Atlas? And I'm going to be real... RWBY isn't exactly the pinnacle of skill. Yeah, she'strained by two strong huntsmen but we see that she's not exactly the most skilled, mostly relying on her semblance... you know her dad says that much lol.

Even if you take skill out of the equation entirely, Yang still has a major advantage in every category, solid ways to counter his offensive abilities, and experience fighting against and alongside people with Kirito's skillset.

Not really? Most of his abilities come with Game Physiology of just being able to activate them, and his amps are still pretty powerful, not to mention the faster attack speed with Dual Blades which would make his Sword Skills even hard to dodge.
Also what do you mean by Kirito's "skillset" I don't think there's really been someone like Kirito in RWBY.
Plus... if we're going off of knowledge, Kirito has fought gauntlet/claw users, if anything he could get an easy advantage by just using Arms Blast on her gauntlets to break them.

 

[Phoenks]

No cap, I think Yang takes this.

3x starting AP advantage (Enough to fracture bones with every good hit) and the ability to stack on more AP boost based on damage means that Kirito healing over the course of the fight is useless. The more Kirito stalls, the stronger Yang gets in return. Effectively that just ends up making the fight one-sided after a certain point. Healing is not a good win-condition for Kirito here.

The one benefit I can see Kirito having is that he fights with a sword, granting him extended reach beyond Yang's melee range, and the benefit of having a piercing weapon. I don't really know about RWBY so I don't know how good Yang is fighting unarmed against armed opponents, but if she's any good then Kirito still doesn't really benefit there. Anyway, even if Kirito pieces her up in close quarters she can just move out of range and blast him.

I'm not sure if Yang is REALLY smart, but if she is she has the Class M to just... take Kirito's sword out of his hands and throw it away. It would be like taking candy from a baby with that LS difference. If she's into grappling too, that'd be even worse. Honestly, if she uses her physical strength to do anything here she could win extremely easily.

So yeah, gotta keep it real Curry... I don't think Kirito got this one.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

No cap, I think Yang takes this.

3x starting AP advantage (Enough to fracture bones with every good hit) and the ability to stack on more AP boost based on damage means that Kirito healing over the course of the fight is useless. The more Kirito stalls, the stronger Yang gets in return. Effectively that just ends up making the fight one-sided after a certain point. Healing is not a good win-condition for Kirito here.
real Curry... I don't think Kirito got this one.

That’s… not how her semblance works??

 

[Phoenks]

That’s… not how her semblance works??

Am I missing something?

"Burn: Yang has the ability to absorb energy from the damage she has taken, and redirect it twice as hard at her opponent, effectively making her stronger with each hit she takes."

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Am I missing something?

"Burn: Yang has the ability to absorb energy from the damage she has taken, and redirect it twice as hard at her opponent, effectively making her stronger with each hit she takes."

Sadly that’s some weekly wank left over. All the evidence in the series suggests that she just amps herself by two times on the next attack with the semblance used, and even then, the quote from her father and “twice” as hard stuff isn’t really a direct confirmation and is more like flowery language meant to make her ability sound cool.

 

[Phoenks]

Would you provide said evidence then? Without evidence the page itself is going to be more reputable in a match no matter what.

Unfortunately not even this page sources its claims very well rip.

Also, both DMUA and Spinoirr seem to hold the same view on how her Semblance works. So you'll definitely need to debunk that with proper sources.

Yang has 2x the AP (for reasons I disagree with, now that I look at it...) and gets more powerful by being hit,

AP: Just from their stats Yang is 3x stronger (1.1 Tons vs 3.41 Tons), and Yang has the exponential amp from Burn to stack on top of it.

Even if I ignore this and say it's just a 2x amp redirection, that would make her AP gap go from 3x to 6x for those individual attacks. That's nearly one-shot worthy. Kirito isn't going to be able to heal his way out of multiple of those.

You also have to address the fact that at any point in the fight she can disarm and restrain Kirito effortlessly with Class M lifting strength.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Actually... why the hell is Yang and the rest of the V1-3 character High 8-C? It's for fighting a Nevermore, but if you actually watch the fight 4-8 people have to wear it down until Ruby can finish it off, how the hell do they individually scale to it's High 8-C rating????

 

[Deleted member 15008]

In my quest for looking at stuff, I am just now realizing that not only does RWBY seem to have jank stats and outdated pages, but SAO does to.

I mean tbf they haven't been properly revised since 2019-2020 but damn, IDK if I wanna do this anymore.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Because the calc for the Nevermore is from it just flying. RWBY harming it means they scale to its dura where it has several feats half as strong as the figure linked in the AP section but they don’t even affect it in any way.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Because the calc for the Nevermore is from it just flying. RWBY harming it means they scale to its dura where it has several feats half as strong as the figure linked in the AP section but they don’t even affect it in any way.

Wait I'm confused by your statement.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The Nevermore scales to 3.4 tons or thereabouts and is for the Nevermore’s KE by simply flying. In the same link to that calc, the Nevermore and RWBY have a bunch of building+ calcs that were accepted, said calcs being roughly half the figure the Nevermore scales to and all of the Nevermore’s feats don’t even scratch it.

Anyway, a thing I just realised is that Yang’s AP section doesn’t make any mention of her scaling to Mercury in any fashion which is odd given that she does way better against Merc than Yatsuhashi did and he has a casual 4.3 ton feat. Point is, even if Yang didn’t scale to the Nevermore during Initiation, she scales above it/to a better feat by the Vytal Festival.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

The Nevermore scales to 3.4 tons or thereabouts and is for the Nevermore’s KE by simply flying. In the same link to that calc, the Nevermore and RWBY have a bunch of building+ calcs that were accepted, said calcs being roughly half the figure the Nevermore scales to and all of the Nevermore’s feats don’t even scratch it.

Anyway, a thing I just realised is that Yang’s AP section doesn’t make any mention of her scaling to Mercury in any fashion which is odd given that she does way better against Merc than Yatsuhashi did and he has a casual 4.3 ton feat. Point is, even if Yang didn’t scale to the Nevermore during Initiation, she scales above it/to a better feat by the Vytal Festival.

By the Vytal Festival, but even then I feel like scaling to a thing that required cooperation from 8 people in order to make a dent in it is a bit eh. Using SAO as an example, people don't scale to bosses AP and what not right away or even in the first place because they require large groups of people to chip away at its health in raid battles/parties.

Yeah, they're damaging it but, not considerably enough to the point where they should scale.

Anyways, that's off topic.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The Vytal Festival is still part of the Beacon key so I’m not sure why you’re glazing over it when it makes the Nevermore scaling a non issue.

The Nevermore is never fought by 8 people, it (and later the Deathstalker) chase RWBY and JNPR to the bridge where the party is split into two groups of four: RWBY to fight the Nevermore and JNPR to fight the Deathstalker. After the volley of attacks from RWBY in the money shot, Yang is singlehandedly keeping the Nevermore at bay with her ranged attacks alone and a single shotgun round knocks it off course. You can say RWB downscale from it but Yang scales.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

The Vytal Festival is still part of the Beacon key so I’m not sure why you’re glazing over it when it makes the Nevermore scaling a non issue.

The Nevermore is never fought by 8 people, it (and later the Deathstalker) chase RWBY and JNPR to the bridge where the party is split into two groups of four: RWBY to fight the Nevermore and JNPR to fight the Deathstalker. After the volley of attacks from RWBY in the money shot, Yang is singlehandedly keeping the Nevermore at bay with her ranged attacks alone and a single shotgun round knocks it off course. You can say RWB downscale from it but Yang scales.

Can't win with RWBY wankers... /ref

 

[Deleted member 15008]

The Nevermore is never fought by 8 people, it (and later the Deathstalker) chase RWBY and JNPR to the bridge where the party is split into two groups of four: RWBY to fight the Nevermore and JNPR to fight the Deathstalker. After the volley of attacks from RWBY in the money shot, Yang is singlehandedly keeping the Nevermore at bay with her ranged attacks alone and a single shotgun round knocks it off course. You can say RWB downscale from it but Yang scales.

I feel like scaling dust rounds to a character physical strength is a bit iffy, but IDKKKK maybe that's just me

 

[Spinoirr]

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"When Yang takes damage, her Aura allows her to absorb the kinetic energy and then send it back with double the intensity...By allowing herself to become a punching back, Yang runs the risk that her defensive Aura will be broken before getting the chance to punch back."

"Once you take damage, you can dish it back twice as hard but that doesnt make you invincible."

"With each hit she gets stronger, and she uses that energy to fight back."

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"Blake: His Semblance is like yours! He absorbs energy through his sword, stores it up and then sends it back when he's ready.

Yang: He gets to dish out damage without having to feel it? (sighs) That's just cheap... "
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The Semblance section roughly translates to "Burn (Converts received damage into counterattack energy)"

So from all of this, the way Yang's semblance works is:
*She absorbs the energy of attacks she is hit with and stockpiles that energy to use whenever she activates her semblance.
*When she uses her semblance, she dishes out energy equal to double that of what she was hit with.
*The amount of damage she can absorb is hard capped by how much damage her Aura can take without breaking.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

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"When Yang takes damage, her Aura allows her to absorb the kinetic energy and then send it back with double the intensity...By allowing herself to become a punching back, Yang runs the risk that her defensive Aura will be broken before getting the chance to punch back."

"Once you take damage, you can dish it back twice as hard but that doesnt make you invincible."

"With each hit she gets stronger, and she uses that energy to fight back."

The Lady in the Shoe

"The Lady in the Shoe" is the eleventh episode of Volume 6 and the seventy-seventh episode of RWBY. It premiered for Rooster Teeth FIRST members on January 12th, 2019, and was made public on the Rooster Teeth site on January 19th, 2019. It was released on YouTube on January 18th, 2020. In the...

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"Blake: His Semblance is like yours! He absorbs energy through his sword, stores it up and then sends it back when he's ready.

Yang: He gets to dish out damage without having to feel it? (sighs) That's just cheap... "
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The Semblance section roughly translates to "Burn (Converts received damage into counterattack energy)"

So from all of this, the way Yang's semblance works is:
*She absorbs the energy of attacks she is hit with and stockpiles that energy to use whenever she activates her semblance.
*When she uses her semblance, she dishes out energy equal to double that of what she was hit with.
*The amount of damage she can absorb is hard capped by how much damage her Aura can take without breaking.

Spin… we had an entire conversation about this on the FC/OC wiki were pretty much everyone agreed that saying she stockpiles kinetic energy and launches it back as an exponential amp is stupid and extrapolating words………

Let’s not do this again.

 

[Spinoirr]

Spin… we had an entire conversation about this on the FC/OC wiki were pretty much everyone agreed that saying she stockpiles kinetic energy and launches it back as an exponential amp is stupid and extrapolating words………

Let’s not do this again.

Okay but when Yang hears how Adam's semblance works she never said its cheap he gets to stockpile attacks and boost those stockpiled attacks no she says its cheap that he gets to dish out damage without feeling it

Also literally everything else I posted as proof that yangs semblance varies depending on how much attacks she takes

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

btw how long does it take for Yang's aura to switch off?
Like if i hit her in the morning would the stockpiled energy be there at night time as well?

 

[Spinoirr]

btw how long does it take for Yang's aura to switch off?
Like if i hit her in the morning would the stockpiled energy be there at night time as well?

I did a count for how much hits she took in her fight with Adam for her Aura to break and it's 70 hits from a foe that's around her level

anyways there is no said time limit for how long she keeps the stored energy

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I did a count for how much hits she took in her fight with Adam for her Aura to break and it's 70 hits from a foe that's around her level

Kirito would need to hit her 210 times for her aura to break then...and that is without her striking back even once

anyways there is no said time limit for how long she keeps the stored energy

yeah nvm, Kirito isnt winning this

 

[Deleted member 15008]

Kirito would need to hit her 210 times for her aura to break then...and that is without her striking back even once

yeah nvm, Kirito isnt winning this

I still think Kirito wins, but I'm too caught up being kind of shocked at the lack of stuff on Kirito's profile picture

Also, Weekly is apparently still stalking the forums, including this thread, and that makes me uncomfortable (especially since he misgenders me), so I'm not too interested in continuing this thread.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I still think Kirito wins, but I'm too caught up being kind of shocked at the lack of stuff on Kirito's profile picture

curry..not to be rude but that kind of thing is only possible if kirito was like, Wilhelm's level of skilled

 

[Deleted member 15008]

curry..not to be rude but that kind of thing is only possible if kirito was like, Wilhelm's level of skilled

I'm not about to hear "They would win if they were skilled" FROM YOU of all people. These are two teenagers fighting each other, who cares.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I'm not about to hear "They would win if they were skilled" FROM YOU of all people. These are two teenagers fighting each other, who cares.

btw the 3rd teenager in question is the same tier as gameverse kirito soooooo
Rematch?