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Dragon Ball: New Keys and Oozaru

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Piccolo: Raditz Saga

Large Planet level (Destroyed the Moon with a single blast. Kept up against Raditz alongside Goku), higher with Special Beam Cannon/Makankōsappō (Killed both Raditz and Goku simultaneously with it)

Relativistic+ combat speed (Could fire beams at these speeds)

Note: Due to these changes, his Saiyan Saga key should be adjusted to this:

Large Planet level (Far surpassed Raditz, easily one-shotting a Saibamen, and was the strongest of the Z-Fighters present to fight Nappa before Goku arrived, slightly harming him with a Ki blast)

Relativistic+ combat speed (Superior to Krillin who blitzed three Saibamen. Moved faster than Tien's reactions and kept up with a casual Nappa)

DBZ Son Gohan: Raditz Saga

Below Average Human level (Is a 4 year old and is completely passive) up to Large Planet level (Shattered Raditz's armor in a rage, growing 3x stronger than his father), higher as an Oozaru (Grows ten times stronger. Piccolo had to destroy the Moon to stop him)

Below Average Human level up to Relativistic+ combat speed (Faster than Raditz), higher attack speed as an Oozaru

Note: Due to these changes, his Saiyan Saga key should be adjusted to this:

Large Planet level (After being trained by Piccolo, he became the second strongest of the Z-Fighters present, behind only Piccolo himself), higher with Rage Power (He was capable of somewhat hurting a casual Nappa), Dwarf Star level as an Oozaru (10 times stronger than before. Injured Vegeta)

Relativistic+ combat speed (Faster than the other Z-Fighters such as Krillin), higher attack speed as an Oozaru

DBS Manga Son Goku: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

Low Multiverse level (Had a vastly prolonged fight against Vegeta), far higher with Ultra Instinct (Fought evenly against Gohan with both going out at full power, being able to stagger and affect him many times)

Massively FTL+ (Kept up with Vegeta for a prolonged fight), far higher with Ultra Instinct (Kept up with Gohan, even outpacing him many times)

DBS Manga Vegeta: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

Low Multiverse level (Had a vastly prolonged fight against Goku and won in the end. Could keep up with Base Broly), higher as a Super Saiyan (Fought evenly against Base Broly who was starting to properly gain control of his power without going berserk)

Massively FTL+ (Kept up with Goku for a prolonged fight), higher as a Super Saiyan (Can keep up with Broly)

DBS Anime Broly: Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

Low Multiverse level (Was implied to've trained on Beerus' Planet to some degree. Was touted as being superior to the shown Cell Max, only being inferior to a hypothetical completed version)

Massively FTL+ (Should be faster than he was in the Broly Movie)

Oozaru

Currently we only have the transformation as a "higher" rating in the profiles, which is a a bit of a downplay. Inverse even small increase in power can lead to AP stomps between characters, notable examples being:
  • Vegeta (24,000 PL) easily killing Cui quickly (18,000 PL), and he's obviously implied to be vastly superior in their fight, even though their gap is only 1.33x.
  • Super Buu (Someone who was getting stomped by Gohan) was able to turn a stomp around in his favor by absorbing SSJ3 Gotenks (who is comparable to Super Buu, thus is also inferior to Gohan) against Gohan, so the gap between Gohan and Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed) is less than 2x yet it's enough for a stomp.
  • Kaio-ken x2 Goku with a PL of 180,000 made Captain Ginyu greatly fear him making him think he would be no match, deciding that body swapping with him was the best option (Gap is only 1.5x)
And Oozaru is a ten times multiplier, which by itself can be seen as stupendously strong. Oozaru is also just a transformation that is presented as being overwhelmingly strong in its appearances, so by all means it should be rewarded a far higher rating.
 
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Would you guys want to have the super hero keys be "SUPER HERO Saga"/"Super Hero Saga" instead for "Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero" for the manga?
 
Raditz Saga would be a better name than Beginning of Z.
I'll change it to that then
Gohan should have an ‘up to’ rating for his Rage Power in the Raditz Saga.
Either works for the profile
Several of the proposed justifications are missing scans
which ones exactly do you think require scans?
and they’ll need references if they’re added to the profiles.
All justification will have references in the profiles
 
DBS Manga Gohan needs his own page since as of now only the anime version exists in Super

Gohan also have feats against Manga Kefla and Moro for different feats from his anime version
 
DBS Manga Gohan needs his own page since as of now only the anime version exists in Super

Gohan also have feats against Manga Kefla and Moro for different feats from his anime version
That doesn't require a crt, if you wanna make a page go for it, just make a sandbox first before doing so
 
And Oozaru is a ten times multiplier, which by itself can be seen as stupendously strong. Oozaru is also just a transformation that is presented as being overwhelmingly strong in its appearances, so by all means it should be rewarded a far higher rating.
why don't you just note the actual tier of the base form multiplied by ten times?
 
why don't you just note the actual tier of the base form multiplied by ten times?
In some profiles they have a multiplier higher than 10x yet are still noted to be just "higher" like SSJ in the Toei profiles. There also ain't a baseline multiplier difference for far higher ratings on this wiki
 
In some profiles they have a multiplier higher than 10x yet are still noted to be just "higher" like SSJ in the Toei profiles. There also ain't a baseline multiplier difference for far higher ratings on this wiki
Do the gaps still fit in the same tier? Only then should they be considered like this
 
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