Leonidas Class K? When was this discussed? Or is Jinx adding stuff without crt?
I don't remember such a discussion. Leonidas's profile presumes that he's stronger than Zerofuku
You do need a CRT if you are adding new abilities or changing stats
All of this was placed without crt, so I reported it.
Yeah i'm pretty aware of that by now. Thanks for that i guess?
Iirc we no longer give pain tolerence as an ability, the stamina section would already cover that
Agree
Idk about this, it's a pretty common thing in the series for fighters to hear what the spectators are saying an vice-versa
Body puppetry would imply he can make people move against their will with his threads, all he actually does is ust restrain them so no
Agree
Probably fine though manga are a little weird with what can is an afterimage and what is just a fancy way of depicting movement
Probably fine
No he does say stop
Idk about Apollo but I would imagine Leonidas is physically stronger than Zerofuku, given this dude is one of the weakest on the roster meanwhile physically, Leonidas seems high tier
There's nothing that states that Zerofuku is weak besides fans saying that. There was no mentions of how strong Leonidas was in comparison to Buddha, Zerofuku, or Pāpīyas so he has no reason to scale off of Zero's lifting strength feat.
Is there any statement that Zero is one of the weakest physically?
Never said physically, but he certainly isn't as strong as Leonidas. Thats just obvious. They'd be in the same tier range of lifting strength at bare minimum.
It's pretty clear by performance...we aren't genuinely thinking Zerofuku isn't bottom of the roster right?
Do you have any statements to support this? And don't even say "it's obvious" when we have others here questioning this.
Okay, so show the statement that physically Zerofuku is one of/the weakest.
Record of Ragnarok has enough riding on statements, but no, you're asking for the impossible when theres no link to Zero and Leonidas in general. Leonidas just isn't treated as a joke. Im guessing you think Raiden (the literal physically strongest) or Thor isnt above Zero, and would therefore at least scale to him?
Bro was knocked down by a few of Buddha's casual attacks. I didn't say there was a statement whatsoever. People go off of actual feats and power showings as well yknow
I mean frankly idgaf about Lifting Strength that much to be talking about it, I've already made it clear several times previous that you can change Leonidas LS back to unknown if it really bothers yall, but there aint no way we can't think Zero is stronger physically than Leonidas...let alone tryna talk abt Zeus. LS and AP do actually go pretty hand in hand since they both revolve around forcing in specific direction, theres just more of a technique variant separating these factors. But heck if i care about LS
This is widely accepted by fans, not the series. Don't get them twisted.
Neither Thor nor Lubu passed the Zero LS CRT, despite it being proposed.
Right, and what does this have to do with LS? That's Zero's durability.
AP and LS do not go hand in hand.
Zero was a joke period. third-rate God. Evne the audience was saying Bishamonten woulda done a better job
The one character on the roster that cant take heavy abuse, but is somehow also super good in lifting strength? mmk
Bro idk how many times i gotta tell you. I never claimed there was a statement and have told you there is nothing like that of the sort. Best you got is Hajun calling him weak af. Drop ittttt
I cant bro. I know this wiki is funny about it, but can we please check back in with physics
Never said it did. This is based around fiction. But yeah, normally, LS and how much power you can output can go hand in hand since they both revolve around your force output. Its just about applying it against an objects weight, or the force of a punch.
Cause Zero is treated as a joke, the lowest tier of the roster, can casually lift his misery cleaver though. Characters like Raiden are physically stronger than Zero, no doubt at all. We use Ares (a joke) as a way of measuring every characters' speed, Leonidas has been training all his life, especially his muscles and battle prowess and is clearly far more competent than anything we got Zero doing. How is everyone else in this fandom able to see this except yall, theres no imaginary statement saying 'Leo is stronger than Zero' for you im afraid, but this wiki does a TON of 'comparable scaling'.
Ares is used in scaling because he isn't a participant in Ragnarok (Which is a tournament of the strongest humans against possible the strongest gods) is often shocked/astonished by the other fighters feats. The same does not apply to Zerofuku.
Zero was already considered one of the 12 most powerful heaven gods even when he was Bishamontem.
You mean, its cause he's treated as a joke and dogged on every chance they can get? Zerofuku was very much treated like he was mid by Buddha, who is granted strong, but there ain't no way anyone else on the roster would have been dogged that badly by Buddha. Then Zero gets possessed immediately by Zero after dying to a few casual attacks. I don't see how we can try and treat him as if he was on par with any characters treated with actual respect.
Since when did we need only statements??? Don't we literally call every character on RoR Planet level cause of Thor and a ton of statements, yet the show has yet to actually show any of that level of AP? Like this series is NOT concrete as we got right now, all we got is statements fr, Lu Bu is still the strongest AP feat shown lol.
I say possibly because I feel like there's just some gods that just didn't feel like participating, such as HadesZero was already considered one of the 12 most powerful heaven gods even when he was Bishamontem.
Except Ares's moment is meant to be done as a joke and specifically exists to show how much better the cast is compared to him. He's meant to be the reference point for the series. Zerofuku isn't that. He's an incredibly versatile fighter with a really strong ability and weapon who ended up getting put against a strong opponent who also had a versatile weapon and could see the future. The point of the fight was to highlight Buddha's kindness; they wanted to show his main characteristic of helping others while also showing how strong he is; thus, Zerofuku was created. He's a troubled kid with an immature personality to go with him being a powerhouse. Zero isn't struggling because he's weak, but because Buddha is impossible to hit. No matter what he does, Buddha not only knows what he's going to do as he thinks it but also has a counter to it thanks to his weapon. Buddha not taking Zero seriously isn't because he's weak, but because Buddha wants to help.
Hades is not a heaven god, he is of hell/underworld.
Zero isn't Ares level tier of a joke character sure, but he's very clearly NOT up to par with the rest of Ragnarok when he crumbles to a few casual Buddha attacks, then immediately gets possessed by the likes of Hajun.
Its more about him crumbling to a few casual attacks. You wouldn't catch Leonidas in that situation.
Dont see why half the roster is Class K to you, including the weakest member on there (barring jack physically i guess), but Leonidas, the Spartan Dude with an actual offensive presence isnt comparable whatsoever.
Leonidas was a bad matchup against Apollo, but he wasn't treated as a joke. It was still pretty mid-high diff for Apollo. He landed like 1 solid hit on Apollo, and that made up for pretty much ALL the damage Apollo dished out on him pre-Artemis bow. He was definitely stronger physically than Apollo, it was remarked that Apollo shouldnt try to battle him head on, and instead stuck to the outboxing and then arrow spamming.
Again this is all just endurance feats
Fair
Again it could very easily be considered a way for the manga to depict movement rather than the characters themselves percieving himm as after images but considering Apollo is potrayed as one of the fastest fighters sure I'm fine with it
Remove Zeptosecond from profiles This is 10 nanoseconds, Relativisic, not MFTL+.
I was reading it, but I stopped at 16-17 (those who translated it into Spanish stopped doing it) how many chapters does it have? one hundred and fifty something right? From the little that I got to see, I don't remember anything about the wall level.
