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CatNap Vs. Mike Munroe (Poppy Playtime Vs. Until Dawn)

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Mike watched as the second Ghostface killer went limp. Walking to the corpse, he gave it a swift kick, just to make sure it was really dead this time. The body didn't move an inch, until of course, it vanished as thick fog overtook it. Mike looked around for the killer's knives, but was disappointed to see they had vanished as well. Still, Mike wasn't quite ready to leave yet. He had just taken two human lives and he needed a moment to think about that.

"This is ****ing unbelievable..." He sighed, slouching against the wall. "What the hell just happened?"

Mike wasn't sure how long he stayed slumped against the wall. It felt like hours, but he couldn't quite tell. The sun wasn't rising and the clouds were as thick and gloomy as ever though, so it shouldn't have been too long. That or this place didn't even have a sunrise... Mike couldn't quite rule that one yet. All he knew was that the chill in the air was as cold as ever, and he wanted to get moving.

Mike stood up and walked outside the building, his weapons secured in a duffel bag at his side. Maybe, if he were lucky, he'd find someone who didn't wanna kill him.

And he didn't have to wait long. A woman with blonde hair, pink highlights at the bottom, made her way onto the empty street. The woman seemed lost, just like himself, yet carried an unsettling aura around her. Mike gripped his shotgun as she made eye contact.

"Hey, uh, I-"

"Are you lost? So am I."

The woman spoke calmly, eerily so. Was she not aware of the dangers of this place? Or perhaps, she did, she just didn't care.

"Well, yeah," Mike replied. "I just had to fight off two knife-happy psychos in a grocery store, I got a little turned-around."

The woman's nonchalance made Mike angry. He didn't know why.

The woman rose an eyebrow as she walked towards a street corner. It seems like Mike's story confirmed a fear of hers... they weren't alone. Were there other people here? More... dangerous people?

"It sounds like you've had a bad day..." The woman smiled. "Maybe I can-"

The woman went pale. Mike tilted his head.

"What?" He asked. "Maybe you can... what?"

The woman wasted no time running into one of the nearby buildings, out of sight. Mike threw his hands up in frustration.

"Hey!" He called out. "I don't think we talked enough!"

Mike stopped in place as he looked to the ground. From behind came a wave of red smoke. A sudden sense of drowsiness came over him as he turned around. It was then that he saw it. Flesh hung tightly to the creature's bones. It's humanoid shape twitched and bent as it scurried along the floor.

"Oh ****!" Mike yelled as he booked it further down the street.

It was a Wendigo, no doubt about it. Mike could hardly keep his eyes open, but he knew one of those things when he saw it. After a few seconds of running, Mike turned around, the feeling of drowsiness growing weaker.

He then saw the creature for what it really was. The smoke was messing with his mind, it was making him see things that aren't there. Before him was no Wendigo, but rather a purple feline sporting a wide, dark smile.

MIKE MUNROE
VERSUS
CATNAP

  • Both are 9-C
  • The above story doesn't necessarily dictate rules of the thread
  • Battle takes place in an empty street surrounded by buildings
  • Starting distance is 8 meters
  • Mike has his weapons
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CATNAP: 7

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MIKE: 3
 
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Off topic but is ripping off the head of a deer comparable, if not superior to ripping off the head of a human?
 
AThe1412 said:
Mike should be above baseline but his weapons can harm enemies that are at least 3000 J or potentially higher. Catnap scales to 3000 J as well.
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Then it sounds like he can just kill Catnap so long as he keeps his distance since he has like two different guns which might also set him on fire since the Red Smoke is flammable.
 
Yea I don't see Mike winning this.

Assuming that they don't start in line of sight, Mike won't be able to get the chance to shoot CatNap because CatNap will just use its Stealth Mastery to get to Mike. Keeping distance will straight up just not work since Mike doesn't know where CatNap is to actually do that.

If they do start in line of sight, it's pretty much the same thing. CatNap would maybe get shot once or twice but then would go towards the buildings for cover, then a repeat of what I said before happens. Mike isn't killing CatNap off of two or three shots.

Mike doesn't know and has never seen Red Smoke. For all he knows this is just random mist coming in. So of course when he inhales it, he'll go bat**. It should be pretty easy for CatNap to take the dub here if he doesn't get hit by a random * gunshot. If CatNap REALLY wants to play safe, he can just use Red Smoke until Mike falls unconscious and then kill him while he's sleeping.

Voting CatNap.
 
Catbowtie said:
Yea I don't see Mike winning this.

Assuming that they don't start in line of sight, Mike won't be able to get the chance to shoot CatNap because CatNap will just use its Stealth Mastery to get to Mike. Keeping distance will straight up just not work since Mike doesn't know where CatNap is to actually do that.
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SBA assume they start with line of sight and know the direction where the other combatant starts.
Catbowtie said:
If they do start in line of sight, it's pretty much the same thing. CatNap would maybe get shot once or twice but then would go towards the buildings for cover, then a repeat of what I said before happens. Mike isn't killing CatNap off of two or three shots.
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Why wouldn't he be able to? His shotgun already has higher AP than Catnap and he can aim for the head. Mike has fought with Wendigos who are also stealthy and has much better stamina.
Catbowtie said:
Mike doesn't know and has never seen Red Smoke. For all he knows this is just random mist coming in. So of course when he inhales it, he'll go bat**. It should be pretty easy for CatNap to take the dub here if he doesn't get hit by a random * gunshot. If CatNap REALLY wants to play safe, he can just use Red Smoke until Mike falls unconscious and then kill him while he's sleeping.

Voting CatNap.
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Firstly, the red smoke isn't an instawin as evidenced by the player still beating Catnap despite prolonged exposure. Secondly, Mike ain't stupid. He's not gonna get close to the weird ass blood smoking cat monster. It's only several meters in range so he can just shoot Catnap without needing to get close to it. It'll need time to accumulate to even be a threat to him except they're outdoors so the odds of that happening before Mike just wins is very low. Also, there's a slight chance the gun will set the red smoke on fire and burn Catnap.
 
AThe1412 said:
Why wouldn't he be able to? His shotgun already has higher AP than Catnap and he can aim for the head. Mike has fought with Wendigos who are also stealthy and has much better stamina.
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Aiming for the head doesn't give Mike one shot capabilities. They're in the same AP range. Mike shoots CatNap in the head. CatNap lives and runs to find cover. Now what?

Mike fighting Wendigos =/= knowing how to handle stealthy creatures. The two are mutually exclusive things. Fighting ninjas doesn't automatically mean that person knows how to act against people who are stealthy, it just means they fight ninjas. And again, it doesn't stop CatNap from simply sneaking up on Mike. Show an example of Mike detecting a Wendigo while it was stalking him and I'll give you that.

AThe1412 said:
Firstly, the red smoke isn't an instawin as evidenced by the player still beating Catnap despite prolonged exposure. Secondly, Mike ain't stupid. He's not gonna get close to the weird ass blood smoking cat monster. It's only several meters in range so he can just shoot Catnap without needing to get close to it. It'll need time to accumulate to even be a threat to him except they're outdoors so the odds of that happening before Mike just wins is very low. Also, there's a slight chance the gun will set the red smoke on fire and burn Catnap.
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You are forgetting some things:

First, the player had prior knowledge on CatNap's abilities from Ollie. They knew that CatNap's Red Smoke is purely just illusions.

Second, the player was able to counter this ability with flares to know which CatNap is the real one.

Thirdly, the player didn't "beat" CatNap. CatNap was 100% going to kill The Player right then and there had The Prototype not came in.

When Mike sees a monster version of CatNap and shoots it and it disappears into thin air, he is not going to know what the hell happened to him, especially when the auditory hallucinations start to kick in and further **** him up. Mike may as well think that there are multiple CatNaps.

The idea that Red Smoke needs time to accumulate is purely headcanon. When CatNap uses his Red Smoke, it covers the entire area pretty much immediately.

The whole "Mike can win by keeping distance and shooting CatNap" thing goes out the window when CatNap will hide behind a building and wait for Mike to approach, or just sneak around and catch him by surprise. It doesn't take a genius to hide from danger.
 
Catbowtie said:
Aiming for the head doesn't give Mike one shot capabilities. They're in the same AP range. Mike shoots CatNap in the head. CatNap lives and runs to find cover. Now what?
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I never said he can oneshot him. Piercing damage is a thing and getting shot in the head even if the bullet on par with you is still going to hurt no matter what. You're saying Catnap can just immediately shrug off getting shot and run while Mike will just let him get away and not shoot more? Even the Wendigos who can withstand these shots still gets sent flying and put on the ground for a few seconds.
Catbowtie said:
Mike fighting Wendigos =/= knowing how to handle stealthy creatures. The two are mutually exclusive things. Fighting ninjas doesn't automatically mean that person knows how to act against people who are stealthy, it just means they fight ninjas. And again, it doesn't stop CatNap from simply sneaking up on Mike. Show an example of Mike detecting a Wendigo while it was stalking him and I'll give you that.
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Keep in mind that Wendigos are much faster than Mike as opposed to Catnap who's as fast as he is.
Catbowtie said:
You are forgetting some things:

First, the player had prior knowledge on CatNap's abilities from Ollie. They knew that CatNap's Red Smoke is purely just illusions.
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Okay but how does not having prior knowledge mean Mike is gonna willingly get close to the suspicious red cloud of death? (Also, the above story already has him realize that the red smoke is making him drowsy and messing with his perception)
Catbowtie said:
Second, the player was able to counter this ability with flares to know which CatNap is the real one.
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Yeah, and what stops Mike from doing the same with his gun which is more spammable, can hurt Catnap if he hits the real one, AND can hold a lot of ammo apparently.
Catbowtie said:
Thirdly, the player didn't "beat" CatNap. CatNap was 100% going to kill The Player right then and there had The Prototype not came in.
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You're downplaying the Player lol. They were keeping Catnap from reaching them for several minutes straight and shocked him when he was about to attack, then bro got cooked by his own stinky mouth breath and was on the ground wailling. Prototype just put bro out of his misery.
Catbowtie said:
When Mike sees a monster version of CatNap and shoots it and it disappears into thin air, he is not going to know what the hell happened to him, especially when the auditory hallucinations start to kick in and further **** him up. Mike may as well think that there are multiple CatNaps.
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What? You're saying he's too stupid to realize they're hallucinations even when he sees them disperse in one shot?
Catbowtie said:
The idea that Red Smoke needs time to accumulate is purely headcanon. When CatNap uses his Red Smoke, it covers the entire area pretty much immediately.
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You're assuming the area wasn't already filled with smoke, albeit not enough to be very visible, beforehand and it was indoors so it didn't have trouble building up as opposed to being outside where wind can carry it elsewhere.
Catbowtie said:
The whole "Mike can win by keeping distance and shooting CatNap" thing goes out the window when CatNap will hide behind a building and wait for Mike to approach, or just sneak around and catch him by surprise. It doesn't take a genius to hide from danger.
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It doesn't take a genius to stay away from the giant cat monster that burps up nasty red stuff everywhere it goes.
 
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AThe1412 said:
I never said he can oneshot him. Piercing damage is a thing and getting shot in the head even if the bullet on par with you is still going to hurt no matter what. You're saying Catnap can just immediately shrug off getting shot and run while Mike will just let him get away and not shoot more? Even the Wendigos who can withstand these shots still gets sent flying and put on the ground for a few seconds.
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. And for the latter sentence, CatNap will just run and hide for cover. You claimed that Mike will stay away from the Red Smoke but then imply that Mike will miraculously will chase CatNap after shooting him? CatNap's go-to move is to start with Red Smoke whether he does or does not get shot. If CatNap gets shot and blown away, Red Smoke covers his escape. Mike has no way to approach CatNap to continue to shoot him unless CatNap confronts Mike on his own.

AThe1412 said:
Okay but how does not having prior knowledge mean Mike is gonna willingly get close to the suspicious red cloud of death? (Also, the above story already has him realize that the red smoke is making him drowsy and messing with his perception)
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Because Mike's doesn't know Red Smoke is?

Mike shoots CatNap, CatNap releases Red Smoke and hides for cover, Mike thinks "Oh ****, I hurt the monster! I have the chance to kill" and he runs into the Red Smoke. Again, for all Mike knows CatNap just did the same thing as a squid releasing ink to confuse its predator.

Or he doesn't go into the Red Smoke and CatNap sneaks up on MIke.

And you don't want to go down the story path because that means that CatNap already won because Red Smoke will mess up Mike's shots. When CatNap does get to Mike, CatNap will just disarm him.
Lifting Strength: Class 5 (Due to his size, he should be stronger than Huggy Wuggy)
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Lifting Strength: At least Peak Human (Could rip off the head of a deer)
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And anyways,
ShockingPsychic said:
The above story doesn't necessarily dictate rules of the thread
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Pick your poison.

AThe1412 said:
Yeah, and what stops Mike from doing the same with his gun which is more spammable, can hurt Catnap if he hits the real one, AND can hold a lot of ammo apparently.
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It's a sawed off shotgun. It has two shots. It's not spammable. If Mike switches to a revolver then good for him. CatNap will get on top of a building and jump down to Mike while he's distracted with Red Smoke.

What are the rules for ammo? How much ammo does Mike even have? Mike would sooner run out of bullets than CatNap getting killed by stray shots.
AThe1412 said:
You're downplaying the Player lol. They were keeping Catnap from reaching them for several minutes straight and shocked him when he was about to attack, then bro got cooked by his own stinky mouth breath and was on the ground wailling. Prototype just put bro out of his misery.
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And CatNap still got to The Player anyways. Had the player not have had that electricity hand they would've been killed right there and CatNap could still move afterwards. There's nothing to say that CatNap couldn't finish the job.
AThe1412 said:
What? You're saying he's too stupid to realize they're hallucinations even when he sees them disperse in one shot?
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Yes. Again, Mike doesn't know that they are hallucinations and has never been shown to be able to connect dots like that. And as before, even if he somehow figured out they are hallucinations, he won't know where the real CatNap is and would either be forced to take the risk of not shooting the illusions to make sure they aren't CatNap or shoot the illusions and waste ammo.
AThe1412 said:
You're assuming the area wasn't already filled with smoke, albeit not enough to be very visible, beforehand and it was indoors so it didn't have trouble building up as opposed to being outside where wind can carry it elsewhere.
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I'm not assuming. If you watched the video or even seen Poppy Playtime Chapter 3 you would know that the area The Player is in has never had Red Smoke in it. You could've just went a few seconds back and seen the entire area. You're being lazy. Don't try to invoke Aeolus to give Mike the win. It's not windy at all. Thread Starter didn't say that. It's normal weather. But if you want to take that route, there's nothing to say the wind couldn't just carry the Red Smoke to Mike and he inhales it.

AThe1412 said:
It doesn't take a genius to stay away from the giant cat monster that burps up nasty red stuff everywhere it goes.
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Which again, leads back to Mike not knowing where CatNap is or would be.

You're arguing that Mike would "keep his distance" from CatNap but at the same time would follow him. Pick a position. Either Mike stays away from the Red Smoke and CatNap is able to use Stealth Mastery to sneak up to Mike or Mike follows CatNap and inhales Red Smoke. When CatNap hides behind building, Mike simply cannot shoot it without following, especially with CatNap's Stealth Mastery, especially with Red Smoke.
 
Catbowtie said:
Yes that is exactly what I am saying. And for the latter sentence, CatNap will just run and hide for cover. You claimed that Mike will stay away from the Red Smoke but then imply that Mike will miraculously will chase CatNap after shooting him? CatNap's go-to move is to start with Red Smoke whether he does or does not get shot. If CatNap gets shot and blown away, Red Smoke covers his escape. Mike has no way to approach CatNap to continue to shoot him unless CatNap confronts Mike on his own.


Because Mike's doesn't know Red Smoke is?

Mike shoots CatNap, CatNap releases Red Smoke and hides for cover, Mike thinks "Oh ****, I hurt the monster! I have the chance to kill" and he runs into the Red Smoke. Again, for all Mike knows CatNap just did the same thing as a squid releasing ink to confuse its predator.

Or he doesn't go into the Red Smoke and CatNap sneaks up on MIke.

And you don't want to go down the story path because that means that CatNap already won because Red Smoke will mess up Mike's shots. When CatNap does get to Mike, CatNap will just disarm him.


And anyways,

Pick your poison.


It's a sawed off shotgun. It has two shots. It's not spammable. If Mike switches to a revolver then good for him. CatNap will get on top of a building and jump down to Mike while he's distracted with Red Smoke.

What are the rules for ammo? How much ammo does Mike even have? Mike would sooner run out of bullets than CatNap getting killed by stray shots.

And CatNap still got to The Player anyways. Had the player not have had that electricity hand they would've been killed right there and CatNap could still move afterwards. There's nothing to say that CatNap couldn't finish the job.

Yes. Again, Mike doesn't know that they are hallucinations and has never been shown to be able to connect dots like that. And as before, even if he somehow figured out they are hallucinations, he won't know where the real CatNap is and would either be forced to take the risk of not shooting the illusions to make sure they aren't CatNap or shoot the illusions and waste ammo.

I'm not assuming. If you watched the video or even seen Poppy Playtime Chapter 3 you would know that the area The Player is in has never had Red Smoke in it. You could've just went a few seconds back and seen the entire area. You're being lazy. Don't try to invoke Aeolus to give Mike the win. It's not windy at all. Thread Starter didn't say that. It's normal weather. But if you want to take that route, there's nothing to say the wind couldn't just carry the Red Smoke to Mike and he inhales it.


Which again, leads back to Mike not knowing where CatNap is or would be.

You're arguing that Mike would "keep his distance" from CatNap but at the same time would follow him. Pick a position. Either Mike stays away from the Red Smoke and CatNap is able to use Stealth Mastery to sneak up to Mike or Mike follows CatNap and inhales Red Smoke. When CatNap hides behind building, Mike simply cannot shoot it without following, especially with CatNap's Stealth Mastery, especially with Red Smoke.
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Even CatNap is completely unaffected by a GrabPack which can rip human heads, while shotguns can blow human heads but can't rip a human head.
 
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