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Aye, I'm back on the Dark Tower grind. While I was off-site, I've made a lot of changes in in the scaling of Pennywise, and given just how influential this website is, I thought it would be best to bring them along here. Just like with all my other CRTs.
TL;DR
This CRT will;
This CRT will go over a lot, but I'll try to do my best to explain the additions in a concise way. If you wish to see everything on your own, click here.
Additions To Already Existing Powers
Regeneration - Gives the avatar Low-High Regeneration, with IT coming back after being melted to amorphous, taffy-like sludge while in the form of George. It also gives other showings of Pennywise receiving damage, only to heal back later on, albeit they aren't as impressive as the Low-High stuff. Also includes a statement from the Dark Tower comics, saying that any magical being can endlessly regenerate.
Web Generation + Acidic Bodily Fluids - IT's webs, like Pennywise's other bodily fluids, are acidic and burn upon contact.
Poison Manipulation - The stinger of IT's spider form is said to leak poison.
Social Influencing/Overwhelmingly Frightful Presence - Scared the shit out of Henry Bowers, causing him to freeze in terror and his interior temperature to plummet just by saying "Wait".
Telekinesis - Can cause things to suddenly combust with his Telekinesis. He did this to a couple of balloons.
Weather Manipulation - Said to be capable of reshaping clouds, bending them to the shapes of animals.
This also gives explanations to powers that weren't originally given explanations in the true form key, like Large Size (Type 11) and Transduality (Type 2, Aspect 2). Type 11 Large Size is self-explanatory, given he is 1-A, but as for Transduality;
The Deadlights exist far beyond the rest of the cosmology, most notably the Dark Tower. The Dark Tower is essentially the container for everything, containing the entire multiverse. The Dark Tower most likely also contains all concepts, with it most notably containing the concepts of life, time, space, size, and dimension. On top of this, the Dark Tower in the comics is described as an archetypal structure. I've seen other profiles given this ability for similar reasoning, but if this isn't good enough, we can just remove it.
Mind Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (Type 3) - Lastly, in the book Insomnia, looking into the Deadlights are said to be capable of delivering a "fate worse than death", with death suddenly becoming the best outcome for the viewer. This is most likely referring to the Deadlight's ability to absorb the Ka of others, essentially a form of eternal damnation.
New Abilities/Resistances
Numbness Inducement - On top of the webbing being acidic, it induces numbness immediately upon touch. This sensation is compared to being injected with a "hypo full of novocaine".
Edit: Should clarify that this is Biological Manipulation, just underneath a specific name.
Precognition - Pennywise is capable of reading minds, and in Dark Tower, one's mind and destiny are the same thing, so he is also reading their destiny.
Acausality (Type 4) - This ability use to be on the page before I rewrote. At the time of the rewrite, I couldn't find any reasoning for it, but later on I was able to scrap together an argument for it. As said before, and emphasized on the profile, Pennywise originates from the Deadlights, outside of everything (As in, the rest of the cosmology. The multiverse, Dark Tower, Macroverse/Todash Space, etc). This would encompass the Dark Tower, which as said before encompasses all of time and space. So the avatar was conceived independently from space and time, which is something that would warrant type 4 Acausality. After entering the multiverse, he still retains this independence, with him being described as timeless, and being able to casually leave the Neibolt house despite its ****** up space that makes it really difficult to move in for others, let alone leave.
Self-Sustenance (Type 1) + Resistance to Cosmic Radiation and Extreme Temperatures - Before Pennywise arrived on Earth, he was able to survive in the vacuum of space with no discernable issues.
Resistance to Death Manipulation - The avatar already has a resistance to mind, soul, life, and fate hax due to his mind/soul/etc being the Deadlights, an outerversal entity, therefore meaning that his essence would be impervious and unreachable to those hax unless they can affect outerversal minds and reach outerversal distances. This is also given the nature of minds in Dark Tower, with the mind, soul, life-force, and destiny of someone all being the same thing, labelled underneath "Ka". Well, Ka also encompasses one's own death, so we can just throw that into the collection.
Resistance to Conceptual, Life, and Plot Manipulation - I already went over how the Dark Tower can be argued to contain all concepts, including the concept of life, so I'm just gonna skip over to the plot manipulation part. The Dark Tower gets extremely metafictional near the end of its series, with it established that the Dark Tower (The cosmological structure) contains every story Stephen King has ever written (Along with stories from other authors, but I'm not gonna do any crosscaling bullshit). Because of this, we have things like Father Callahan from Salem's Lot making an appearance, and the Old Ones (A technologically advanced race of monsters) creating weapons and robots based on Star Wars, Harry Power, and Marvel (I'm not making this shit up). Again, the Deadlights exist far beyond the Dark Tower, and would also transcend these stories, hence the resistance.
Stat Changes
Outside of speed, I haven't changed much. I went more in-depth on the Deadlight's gender, the other names for "Glamour" in the Classification section, and I better explained what the Ritual of Chud is in the weaknesses section.
As for speed, I've tried to upgrade Pennywise's speed before in my last CRT, but that thread died and I honestly handled it pretty poorly, so I'm gonna repeat what I said there, and then some. Pennywise the Clown often outpaces the Losers Club, and the Losers Club have some impressive reaction/perception speed feats;
1. Being able to react and perceive things while being flung from Earth, to outside the universe, and into the Deadlights within moments.
2. Similarly being able to see stuff while going so fast that Maturin completely disappears from sight within a single eyeblink.
I have calculated both of these feats (Which you can see here and here), and both of them have been accepted. Pennywise is already accepted to be Massively FTL+, so this is consistent. There have been some concerns for this feat, mainly whether or not the Losers Club are "normal humans", which I've addressed in my last CRT;
Other Small Changes
1. Added references.
2. Fixed grammatical errors that I've found.
3. Rephrased bits of text that mistakenly said or implied that Pennywise exists in the Macroverse, when he actually doesn't.
4. Rewrote the summary to something more detailed and overall more fitting for IT.
5. Added the content warning thing. While the book doesn't have visuals, some of the scans still describe NSFW shit in off-putting detail. Also, a lot of slurs.
I could have made this longer, by throwing in the idea of making a cosmology blog for the verse with what I know about it so far, but that will be its own CRT some day. Can't give even an estimation.
Votes
Agree: 11 (Ruteahh, Forthegood, CanineAnnoyer, rpmblack, DimeUhDozen, XxZetsuxX, PuffletronGaming, DarkDragonMedeus, HorrorHistory, Apex Predator GX, and Mr. Bambu [Although he does disagree with some of the listed stuff here])
Disagree: 1 (Mr. Bambu [Disagrees with resistance to death manip, type 4 Acausality, Low-High Regeneration, and Precognition])
Neutral:
TL;DR
This CRT will;
- Give the avatar Low-High Regeneration.
- Add additional reasonings (Or just explanations that should have been there in the first place) to various powers already listed on the page. Most notably Transduality (Nature 2, Aspect 2).
- Give the avatar Numbness Inducement (Biological Manipulation), Acausality (Type 4), and Self-Sustenance (Type 1). Along with a resistance to Cosmic Radiation (Radiation Manipulation), Extreme Temperature (Temperature Manipulation), and Death Manipulation.
- Give the Deadlights resistances to Conceptual Manipulation, Life Manipulation, and Plot Manipulation.
- Go more into detail in the Gender, Classification, and Weakness sections of the profile.
- Add two MTFL+ to better support him having that speed tier. They both have calcs that have been looked over, and accepted.
- Add references.
- Fix any spotted errors in grammar.
- Clear up some misleading text.
- Rewrite the summary.
- Add content warning pop up.
This CRT will go over a lot, but I'll try to do my best to explain the additions in a concise way. If you wish to see everything on your own, click here.
Additions To Already Existing Powers
Regeneration - Gives the avatar Low-High Regeneration, with IT coming back after being melted to amorphous, taffy-like sludge while in the form of George. It also gives other showings of Pennywise receiving damage, only to heal back later on, albeit they aren't as impressive as the Low-High stuff. Also includes a statement from the Dark Tower comics, saying that any magical being can endlessly regenerate.
Web Generation + Acidic Bodily Fluids - IT's webs, like Pennywise's other bodily fluids, are acidic and burn upon contact.
Poison Manipulation - The stinger of IT's spider form is said to leak poison.
Social Influencing/Overwhelmingly Frightful Presence - Scared the shit out of Henry Bowers, causing him to freeze in terror and his interior temperature to plummet just by saying "Wait".
Telekinesis - Can cause things to suddenly combust with his Telekinesis. He did this to a couple of balloons.
Weather Manipulation - Said to be capable of reshaping clouds, bending them to the shapes of animals.
This also gives explanations to powers that weren't originally given explanations in the true form key, like Large Size (Type 11) and Transduality (Type 2, Aspect 2). Type 11 Large Size is self-explanatory, given he is 1-A, but as for Transduality;
The Deadlights exist far beyond the rest of the cosmology, most notably the Dark Tower. The Dark Tower is essentially the container for everything, containing the entire multiverse. The Dark Tower most likely also contains all concepts, with it most notably containing the concepts of life, time, space, size, and dimension. On top of this, the Dark Tower in the comics is described as an archetypal structure. I've seen other profiles given this ability for similar reasoning, but if this isn't good enough, we can just remove it.
Mind Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (Type 3) - Lastly, in the book Insomnia, looking into the Deadlights are said to be capable of delivering a "fate worse than death", with death suddenly becoming the best outcome for the viewer. This is most likely referring to the Deadlight's ability to absorb the Ka of others, essentially a form of eternal damnation.
New Abilities/Resistances
Numbness Inducement - On top of the webbing being acidic, it induces numbness immediately upon touch. This sensation is compared to being injected with a "hypo full of novocaine".
Edit: Should clarify that this is Biological Manipulation, just underneath a specific name.
Precognition - Pennywise is capable of reading minds, and in Dark Tower, one's mind and destiny are the same thing, so he is also reading their destiny.
Acausality (Type 4) - This ability use to be on the page before I rewrote. At the time of the rewrite, I couldn't find any reasoning for it, but later on I was able to scrap together an argument for it. As said before, and emphasized on the profile, Pennywise originates from the Deadlights, outside of everything (As in, the rest of the cosmology. The multiverse, Dark Tower, Macroverse/Todash Space, etc). This would encompass the Dark Tower, which as said before encompasses all of time and space. So the avatar was conceived independently from space and time, which is something that would warrant type 4 Acausality. After entering the multiverse, he still retains this independence, with him being described as timeless, and being able to casually leave the Neibolt house despite its ****** up space that makes it really difficult to move in for others, let alone leave.
Self-Sustenance (Type 1) + Resistance to Cosmic Radiation and Extreme Temperatures - Before Pennywise arrived on Earth, he was able to survive in the vacuum of space with no discernable issues.
Resistance to Death Manipulation - The avatar already has a resistance to mind, soul, life, and fate hax due to his mind/soul/etc being the Deadlights, an outerversal entity, therefore meaning that his essence would be impervious and unreachable to those hax unless they can affect outerversal minds and reach outerversal distances. This is also given the nature of minds in Dark Tower, with the mind, soul, life-force, and destiny of someone all being the same thing, labelled underneath "Ka". Well, Ka also encompasses one's own death, so we can just throw that into the collection.
Resistance to Conceptual, Life, and Plot Manipulation - I already went over how the Dark Tower can be argued to contain all concepts, including the concept of life, so I'm just gonna skip over to the plot manipulation part. The Dark Tower gets extremely metafictional near the end of its series, with it established that the Dark Tower (The cosmological structure) contains every story Stephen King has ever written (Along with stories from other authors, but I'm not gonna do any crosscaling bullshit). Because of this, we have things like Father Callahan from Salem's Lot making an appearance, and the Old Ones (A technologically advanced race of monsters) creating weapons and robots based on Star Wars, Harry Power, and Marvel (I'm not making this shit up). Again, the Deadlights exist far beyond the Dark Tower, and would also transcend these stories, hence the resistance.
Stat Changes
Outside of speed, I haven't changed much. I went more in-depth on the Deadlight's gender, the other names for "Glamour" in the Classification section, and I better explained what the Ritual of Chud is in the weaknesses section.
As for speed, I've tried to upgrade Pennywise's speed before in my last CRT, but that thread died and I honestly handled it pretty poorly, so I'm gonna repeat what I said there, and then some. Pennywise the Clown often outpaces the Losers Club, and the Losers Club have some impressive reaction/perception speed feats;
1. Being able to react and perceive things while being flung from Earth, to outside the universe, and into the Deadlights within moments.
2. Similarly being able to see stuff while going so fast that Maturin completely disappears from sight within a single eyeblink.
I have calculated both of these feats (Which you can see here and here), and both of them have been accepted. Pennywise is already accepted to be Massively FTL+, so this is consistent. There have been some concerns for this feat, mainly whether or not the Losers Club are "normal humans", which I've addressed in my last CRT;
Update 2: The Losers Club aren't "normal people". We know that throughout the book (Usually when confronted by Pennywise), they are amped by an external force, a higher power, not only giving them supernatural powers (I.E. The other Losers Club members were able to detect that Mike was in danger while hunting Pennywise far away, and were able to "send their power" to Mike while he was in the hospital, allowing him to fight off a murderer when he otherwise wouldn't have been able to) but also boosting their physical capabilities (The most obvious example of this is when Mike was fending himself from Pennywise's bird form. Mike himself says that he can feel a force helping him throw the tiles harder, allowing him to deal more damage to Penny). This higher power could be either Maturin (IT's brother. Maturin is also explicitly said to dwarf the Deadlights in power), or Gan himself (The creator deity of the verse, and is so far beyond the likes of IT that they are mere thoughts in his mind), both being 1-A reality-bending gods. Even Pennywise himself notes that the Losers Club have a "mythical talismanic" quality to them, and even speculates if they are agents of "The Other"/Gan (Which we know is true, given what was said here, and he was even there during the Ritual of Chud, helping the club behind the cosmic scenes). The very fact that they can resist and somewhat combat Pennywise is proof that they aren't normal too, as Pennywise has been butchering people for hundreds of years.
Also, in general Stephen King's books are full of humans with capabilities beyond typical people, especially the Dark Tower series, so the prospect of superhumans aren't new to this verse.
Other Small Changes
1. Added references.
2. Fixed grammatical errors that I've found.
3. Rephrased bits of text that mistakenly said or implied that Pennywise exists in the Macroverse, when he actually doesn't.
4. Rewrote the summary to something more detailed and overall more fitting for IT.
5. Added the content warning thing. While the book doesn't have visuals, some of the scans still describe NSFW shit in off-putting detail. Also, a lot of slurs.
I could have made this longer, by throwing in the idea of making a cosmology blog for the verse with what I know about it so far, but that will be its own CRT some day. Can't give even an estimation.
Votes
Agree: 11 (Ruteahh, Forthegood, CanineAnnoyer, rpmblack, DimeUhDozen, XxZetsuxX, PuffletronGaming, DarkDragonMedeus, HorrorHistory, Apex Predator GX, and Mr. Bambu [Although he does disagree with some of the listed stuff here])
Disagree: 1 (Mr. Bambu [Disagrees with resistance to death manip, type 4 Acausality, Low-High Regeneration, and Precognition])
Neutral:
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