Kusuo Saiki Revisions…

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[Edutyn]

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[Edutyn]

I'll write about them tomorrow at the earliest, I don't have much time rn

Do you have time now?

 

[Benimōru]

Ability additions look good except for the layered power null.

To get a layer in power nullification, you need to negate the ability of a character who has power null resistance. A power null working against a layered hax does not give a layer to that power null.

 

[ShionAH]

To get a layer in power nullification, you need to negate the ability of a character who has power null resistance

Saiki powernulls his alternate version which has resistance to powernull

 

[ShionAH]

Processing this in a layered hax does not give a layer to that power null.

Can you rewrite this? I didnt understand what you mean lol.

 

[Benimōru]

Can you rewrite this? I didnt understand what you mean lol.

I meant that a power null working against a layered hax does not make that power null layered.

Anyway, if it works against someone with a resistance to power null then I agree with that too

 

[ShionAH]

I meant that a power null working against a layered hax does not make that power null layered.

Oh yeah it doesnt, Saiki doesnt have a feat like that iirc

Anyway, if it works against someone with a resistance to power null then I agree with that too

Thank you

now we shall wait…

 

[Edutyn]

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[StretchSebe]

Ability Additions

• Healing (He was able to heal Nendo's amnesia)
• Extrasensory Perception (Was able to see Nendo's Aura change)
• Mind Manipulation (Similar to his alternate version Saiki can mind control people to the point where humans wouldnt even notice the Saiki's erasing a entire city)
• Telepathy (1 Layer) and Reactive Evolution (Even though Saiki failed to read his alternate versions mind using telepathy he somehow overcame this resistance. Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" who see him as fiction)
  • Saiki also stated that no attack or trick can work on him twice, this being supported by his alternate version, and with how he was able to come back from the Dream World where he cannot use any of his powers
• Instinctive Action (He instinctively moved out of the way from an incoming attack that was supposed to be hundreds time faster than him)
• Summoning (Can summon Nendo'd deceased father)
• Transmutation/Sealing (Was gonna fuse the other Saiki with the ground)
• Subjective Reality: (One of the reasons Saiki put on his limiters was his mind control, which reached a point where anything Saiki imagined would come into existence)
• Extreme Cold (Saiki has been in space many times and has not suffered any effects from radiation or cold)
• Curse and Probability Manipulation: (Saiki has the to make a curse that caused everything to always hit Kaido)
• Resistance, Limited Power Nullification (2 Layers)
• Power Nullification (3 Layers): (Even though Alternate was similar to our Kusuo, who resisted Kusuke's 2 limiters, which sought to eliminate his powers. Our Kusuo could cancel the telekinesis of his alternate version and prevent his alternate version from teleporting)
• For his ghost. Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3 and 7) (Similar to other versions of him, Saiki is able to return as a ghost even after death)
• Power Modification: Similar to his version of the popular world, which modified the appearance of his telepathy)
• Vector Manipulation: He removed the momentum of a meteorite, which he attracted, to avoid harming anyone

Stats

• Infinite Stamina (He stated that if he removed his limiters they would start to teleport and fight for eternity)
• Saiki should have 5-B durability since he took an attack from his alternate version even though his alternate version removed his own limiters

Metafictional Stuff

• Main Character
  • In the alternate universe Saiki Kusuo erased Nendo and did some actions that lead to his series being cancelled and forced him to go from being the protagonist to a side character
  • This caused Mikami to be the protagonist and give him some serious plot based powers...
    • The scenes will not end until Mikami enters them in a dramatic fashion
    • Everything Mikami says will always be the truth no matter what because he is the main character
    • Even when Mikami says something wrong eventually he will be in the position where he is "right"
  • Haganeno also has these main character powers since he was changing the literal plot and the classification of the novel itself into a hero novel
  • These abilities should be given to Saiki aswell since he is the main character
• Sight Energy
  • ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off. It’s energy that exists in a completely different dimension from superpowers.
    • Haganeno used the ‘sight’ energy to make the boundaries between universes hazy. And then put all of those worlds together once he had gathered enough energy.
      • The cosmology consist of infinite parallel universes with each having infinite probable future that branches off to different universes with each small decision made
    • He was planning on using this energy to completely change the series from "The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo" to "My Hero Studies"
    • Haganeno was planning on taking over the novel and series using sight energy
  • Sight Energy is 5D. It comes from the "readers" mind
    • The "Readers" are always depicted as people who read and see the entire universe as a two dimensional paper, a manga, a novel, and as simple two dimensional text
• Psy Energy
  • Psy energy is the energy Saiki's have, they were able to fuse their powers because it is impossible for them to do it on their own even without limiters. They used this massive energy to create a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy
• 5 Dimensional Hax
  • Saiki's all have Psy energy which is supposed to be the core of their powers
  • With enough energy Psy can make a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy which would make it so Psy Energy at its peak can rival five dimensional power sources
  • Saiki already has shown that he can use his Telepathy, Psychometry on the readers themselves
    • He shows this 5D hax feats so many times
  • We also have an direct confirmation about how Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" on fly

Canonity of the Novel

• The Readers show that the Manga and the Novel exists in the same continuity
• Saiki also shows that he knows the existence of the manga
• Most importantly, Nendo literally talks about a promise he did all the way in Volume 2 of the manga

Counter Arguments!

• "But we see that Saiki sees the novel as an actual novel in the manga so it means it isnt real?"

First of all Saiki breaks the fourth wall regurarly so him suddenly showing us the novel does not mean the entire novel was actually two dimensional, plus by this logic this would make Saiki High Hyperversal

• "Saiki needed powers of his alternate version to create the distortion!"

Which is why its not one of his base stats and will be stated that he can only do it if he is given enough power

• "Why would Saiki gain five dimensional hax if R>F does not give HDE?"

Well right now R>F page states

"For example, if a character were to view an entire space-time continuum as fiction, they would be superior to such an extent that finite, or even basic infinite, differences in power cannot overcome their superiority. Thus, they would be treated as more than infinitely greater, such as in this case Low 1-C. The gap between the higher world and the lower world would be strictly one of quality, not quantity."

and

"Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include: written media (Books or stories), images (Paintings, comics, or movies), data (Simulations or video games), or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams). All of the above would be considered less 'real' than the person who views the cosmology as such, and can directly imply qualitative superiority."

So unless the page will be changed this would give five dimensional hax, though if the page changes then I will agree and remove the 5D hax.

Final Additions

New Power Additions: Healing, Extrasensory Perception, Instinctive Action, Summoning, Transmutation/Sealing
Stats: Inf Stamina and 5-B Durability

I think Saiki would gain passive Plot Manipulation for being the "Protagonist" which would give him similar passive abilities with Mikami. Plus this is supported by how Saiki said his first manga before serialization along with the novel were his own doing and that he was the one who wrote them

The 5D would only affect Telepathy, Psychometry, Reactive Evolution and Plot Manipulation.

At the very least Sight Energy feats would be 2-A for affecting infinite universes rather than being Low 1-C because they come from the readers depending on how the standarts work for "power sources"

Agree: 6 (@Eseseso (Neutral on 5D), @edutyn, @Abscoolguy, @TWILIGHT-OP (Neutral on 5D), @Benimōru (On 2-A but Disagree on 5D), @Vzearr (Disagrees on Inf Stamina))

Disagree: 2 (@Georredannea15 (On 5D), @DontTalkDT (On 5D))

Abilities seems fine! Only thing is the 'many' link for Extreme cold resistance seems to be a dead link, but the other two included in it seem to justify having such resistance.

Also, the Metafictional stuff is pretty solid as well. That said, I'm not sure how it would translate to powers/abilities, and/or tiering (4th wall awareness, Low 1-C with psychic powers maybe?).

All in all, I'd agree! This is a pretty good compilation of both manga and novel statements/feats.

 

[ShionAH]

Also, the Metafictional stuff is pretty solid as well. That said, I'm not sure how it would translate to powers/abilities, and/or tiering (4th wall awareness, Low 1-C with psychic powers maybe?)

It would give him some 5D hax and give him Passive Plot

 

[StretchSebe]

It would give him some 5D hax and give him Passive Plot

I could see this being passive plot manipulation. Especially considering the plot manipulation he could do by accident (thinking things into existence). Fair enough!

 

[DarkGrath]

• Healing (He was able to heal Nendo's amnesia)

I suppose that's fine.

• Extrasensory Perception (Was able to see Nendo's Aura change)

Saying someone's 'aura is different' is a figure of speech. It refers to when some aspect of someone - whether their appearance, personality, or whatnot - has noticeably changed the vibe they give off. The succeeding dialogue makes it clear that this is all this statement was meant to convey. This is not extrasensory perception - this is just an expression that shouldn't be taken literally.

• Mind Manipulation (Similar to his alternate version Saiki can mind control people to the point where humans wouldnt even notice the Saiki's erasing a entire city)

Is the statement "The world's characters are all under my control" literal? I would expect this statement to be expanded upon.

• Telepathy (1 Layer) and Reactive Evolution (Even though Saiki failed to read his alternate versions mind using telepathy he somehow overcame this resistance. Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" who see him as fiction)
  • Saiki also stated that no attack or trick can work on him twice, this being supported by his alternate version, and with how he was able to come back from the Dream World where he cannot use any of his powers

Telepathy is fine. Reactive Evolution is a bit more contentious - again, 'this trick won't work on me twice' is a figure of speech, used to refer to when someone is prepared for someone to try something again they'd been duped by in the past. That could refer to what we'd consider Reactive Evolution, but it could also just refer to general preparedness.

• Instinctive Action (He instinctively moved out of the way from an incoming attack that was supposed to be hundreds time faster than him)

Instinctive Action requires some level of 'surreality' to qualify. To quote the Instinctive Action page:

"Actions done through a regular human's realistic instincts don't count, their feats need to be surreal (e.g. displays of the concept of Mushin as it is in real life don't count, but a portrayal of it in a series as an actual, reliable phenomenon would count)"

An off-hand statement about how someone 'instinctively [moved] out of the way' would not qualify.

• Summoning (Can summon Nendo'd deceased father)

This is fine.

• Transmutation/Sealing (Was gonna fuse the other Saiki with the ground)

That's fine.

• Subjective Reality: (One of the reasons Saiki put on his limiters was his mind control, which reached a point where anything Saiki imagined would come into existence)

This is fine.

• Extreme Cold (Saiki has been in space many times and has not suffered any effects from radiation or cold)

This is fine.

• Curse and Probability Manipulation: (Saiki has the to make a curse that caused everything to always hit Kaido)

• Resistance, Limited Power Nullification (2 Layers)
• Power Nullification (3 Layers): (Even though Alternate was similar to our Kusuo, who resisted Kusuke's 2 limiters, which sought to eliminate his powers. Our Kusuo could cancel the telekinesis of his alternate version and prevent his alternate version from teleporting)

That's fine.

• For his ghost. Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3 and 7) (Similar to other versions of him, Saiki is able to return as a ghost even after death)

1 and 7 are fine. Why 2 and 3? I don't believe we usually give those just for having a non-corporeal form after death.

• Power Modification: Similar to his version of the popular world, which modified the appearance of his telepathy)

What exactly are you pointing to in that scan as evidence?

• Vector Manipulation: He removed the momentum of a meteorite, which he attracted, to avoid harming anyone

It just says that he "killed the momentum, quite a bit" of the meteorite that he called down. This doesn't show that he manipulated the property of 'momentum' itself to do that - it just says that he slowed it down. This isn't Vector Manipulation.

• Infinite Stamina (He stated that if he removed his limiters they would start to teleport and fight for eternity)

Eh. Saying 'this fight would go on forever' is the kind of hyperbole I would expect in this context - that is to say, it probably wouldn't literally go on forever, but it would go on for long enough that it shouldn't be considered as an option. This is contentious, but I'd be willing to consider it as a literal statement if there is some substantiating context.

• Saiki should have 5-B durability since he took an attack from his alternate version even though his alternate version removed his own limiters

And Saiki without his limiters is 5-B, I take it? If so, that's fine.

• Main Character
  • In the alternate universe Saiki Kusuo erased Nendo and did some actions that lead to his series being cancelled and forced him to go from being the protagonist to a side character
  • This caused Mikami to be the protagonist and give him some serious plot based powers...
    • The scenes will not end until Mikami enters them in a dramatic fashion
    • Everything Mikami says will always be the truth no matter what because he is the main character
    • Even when Mikami says something wrong eventually he will be in the position where he is "right"
  • Haganeno also has these main character powers since he was changing the literal plot and the classification of the novel itself into a hero novel
  • These abilities should be given to Saiki aswell since he is the main character

I don't see how Mikami becoming a protagonist and having certain powers proves that Saiki would also have those powers while he is a protagonist. If he does, wouldn't that be directly demonstrated in some form? Why are we inferring it indirectly?

• Sight Energy
  • ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off. It’s energy that exists in a completely different dimension from superpowers.
    • Haganeno used the ‘sight’ energy to make the boundaries between universes hazy. And then put all of those worlds together once he had gathered enough energy.
      • The cosmology consist of infinite parallel universes with each having infinite probable future that branches off to different universes with each small decision made
    • He was planning on using this energy to completely change the series from "The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo" to "My Hero Studies"
    • Haganeno was planning on taking over the novel and series using sight energy
  • Sight Energy is 5D. It comes from the "readers" mind
    • The "Readers" are always depicted as people who read and see the entire universe as a two dimensional paper, a manga, a novel, and as simple two dimensional text
• Psy Energy
  • Psy energy is the energy Saiki's have, they were able to fuse their powers because it is impossible for them to do it on their own even without limiters. They used this massive energy to create a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy
• 5 Dimensional Hax
  • Saiki's all have Psy energy which is supposed to be the core of their powers
  • With enough energy Psy can make a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy which would make it so Psy Energy at its peak can rival five dimensional power sources
  • Saiki already has shown that he can use his Telepathy, Psychometry on the readers themselves
    • He shows this 5D hax feats so many times
  • We also have an direct confirmation about how Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" on fly

I'm neutral on most of the 5-D and Sight Energy matters at this stage. There's something worth investigating here, but it's not clear where the boundary between 'an ability we should take the implications of seriously' and 'off-kilter 4th wall breaks' falls in these scans. We don't give characters 5-D hax because of brief, tongue-in-cheek references to how they're affecting the viewer of the story, but the idea that these abilities could come from 'supreme observers' who see the world as fictional bodes some credence to it. I'll remain neutral for now.

Canonity of the Novel

• The Readers show that the Manga and the Novel exists in the same continuity
• Saiki also shows that he knows the existence of the manga
• Most importantly, Nendo literally talks about a promise he did all the way in Volume 2 of the manga

I won't comment on the canonicity matters. These questions are always tied up in subtleties of authorial intention that, for a verse I have no prior knowledge of, I can't give meaningful comments on.

 

[ShionAH]

Saying someone's 'aura is different' is a figure of speech. It refers to when some aspect of someone - whether their appearance, personality, or whatnot - has noticeably changed the vibe they give off. The succeeding dialogue makes it clear that this is all this statement was meant to convey. This is not extrasensory perception - this is just an expression that shouldn't be taken literally.

I guess? I dont agree with you but I cannot really disprove that.

Is the statement "The world's characters are all under my control" literal? I would expect this statement to be expanded upon.

Yes. Yes its literal.

From the page

"Saiki has the ability to mind control but this mind control is so powerful that it can change the rules of reality; It can make colored hair a natural occurrence by changing human genes, made it so that all injuries in the world heal much faster than normal, made it so that buildings are built in weeks instead of months, made it so that the brain works way faster in important situations, made it so that a person with a small body can have ridiculous strength, made it so that a person can easily become unconscious by hitting them to the back of the neck, made it so peoples private parts would be impossible to see even if their clothes get torn off, can possibly grant superpowers to every human in the world.[31] Saikis Mind Manipulation can make people think different things and force them to say other things and do other things[32], changed the laws of his school so that instead of his teacher getting angry at his friend he congratulated her"

Telepathy is fine. Reactive Evolution is a bit more contentious - again, 'this trick won't work on me twice' is a figure of speech, used to refer to when someone is prepared for someone to try something again they'd been duped by in the past. That could refer to what we'd consider Reactive Evolution, but it could also just refer to general preparedness.

Saiki already has shown being able to passively just gain layers and resistances

He is also known for just...getting abilities on fly

"Although in the dream world Saiki is not able to use his powers, he managed to use them to wake up."

And the rattle was not affective on him as seen by the scan so it is kinda true that the sleep manipulation doesnt work on him anymore

Instinctive Action requires some level of 'surreality' to qualify. To quote the Instinctive Action page:

"Actions done through a regular human's realistic instincts don't count, their feats need to be surreal (e.g. displays of the concept of Mushin as it is in real life don't count, but a portrayal of it in a series as an actual, reliable phenomenon would count)"

An off-hand statement about how someone 'instinctively [moved] out of the way' would not qualify.

But it does qualify? Kratos has it with the same statement.

Instinctively moving out of the way from an attack on the back is Instictive Reactions since the attack was literally 100x times faster and Kusuo had no time to react

1 and 7 are fine. Why 2 and 3? I don't believe we usually give those just for having a non-corporeal form after death.

The 2 and 3 are already on the profile with Regeneration, I am just addng the Immortality Type

What exactly are you pointing to in that scan as evidence?

He changes the look of his telepathy.

It just says that he "killed the momentum, quite a bit" of the meteorite that he called down. This doesn't show that he manipulated the property of 'momentum' itself to do that - it just says that he slowed it down. This isn't Vector Manipulation.

Alright

Eh. Saying 'this fight would go on forever' is the kind of hyperbole I would expect in this context - that is to say, it probably wouldn't literally go on forever, but it would go on for long enough that it shouldn't be considered as an option. This is contentious, but I'd be willing to consider it as a literal statement if there is some substantiating context.

What about possibly rating? Saiki is not really known for making hyperbole comments and is mostly %100 correct in his statements

I don't see how Mikami becoming a protagonist and having certain powers proves that Saiki would also have those powers while he is a protagonist. If he does, wouldn't that be directly demonstrated in some form? Why are we inferring it indirectly?

Basically Mikami took the protagonist role from Alternate Saiki and gained these abilities, its safe to say Saiki being a protagonist would have the same abilities. Its more like making the protagonist thing canon in the lore

 

[ShionAH]

I'm neutral on most of the 5-D and Sight Energy matters at this stage. There's something worth investigating here, but it's not clear where the boundary between 'an ability we should take the implications of seriously' and 'off-kilter 4th wall breaks' falls in these scans. We don't give characters 5-D hax because of brief, tongue-in-cheek references to how they're affecting the viewer of the story, but the idea that these abilities could come from 'supreme observers' who see the world as fictional bodes some credence to it. I'll remain neutral for now.

What about 2-A and 4D Sight Energy?

 

[DarkGrath]

Yes. Yes its literal.

From the page

"Saiki has the ability to mind control but this mind control is so powerful that it can change the rules of reality; It can make colored hair a natural occurrence by changing human genes, made it so that all injuries in the world heal much faster than normal, made it so that buildings are built in weeks instead of months, made it so that the brain works way faster in important situations, made it so that a person with a small body can have ridiculous strength, made it so that a person can easily become unconscious by hitting them to the back of the neck, made it so peoples private parts would be impossible to see even if their clothes get torn off, can possibly grant superpowers to every human in the world.[31] Saikis Mind Manipulation can make people think different things and force them to say other things and do other things[32], changed the laws of his school so that instead of his teacher getting angry at his friend he congratulated her"

Sounds good, then.

But it does qualify? Kratos has it with the same statement.

Instinctively moving out of the way from an attack on the back is Instictive Reactions since the attack was literally 100x times faster and Kusuo had no time to react

It's not really a concern of whether another character has it for a similar statement - it's a matter of the standards. If it doesn't meet the standards, and Kratos has it for a similar statement, that suggests the Kratos profile would need to be changed.

However, I suppose it's fine if we can confidently say they wouldn't have been able to react to it.

Saiki already has shown being able to passively just gain layers and resistances

He is also known for just...getting abilities on fly

"Although in the dream world Saiki is not able to use his powers, he managed to use them to wake up."

And the rattle was not affective on him as seen by the scan so it is kinda true that the sleep manipulation doesnt work on him anymore

Fair enough.

He changes the look of his telepathy.

Could you elaborate? What does his telepathy normally look like?

What about possibly rating? Saiki is not really known for making hyperbole comments and is mostly %100 correct in his statements

I suppose that's fine.

Basically Mikami took the protagonist role from Alternate Saiki and gained these abilities, its safe to say Saiki being a protagonist would have the same abilities. Its more like making the protagonist thing canon in the lore

To be clear - the idea is that having the 'role' of the protagonist inherently grants the user these attributes?

What about 2-A and 4D Sight Energy?

You mention 2-A would be because he merged 'all of those worlds together once he had gained enough [sight] energy', correct? Could you reference a scan to show when this occurs? I don't believe any of the scans you provided mention this, but it could qualify.

 

[ShionAH]

Could you elaborate? What does his telepathy normally look like?

Wait nvm I dont think the scan shows that clearly, just ignore power modification I will remove it

To be clear - the idea is that having the 'role' of the protagonist inherently grants the user these attributes?

Yeah. Alt Saiki was the protagonist till he killed Nendo and his show got cancelled, his "role" carried over to that other guy. Which showed he can do these sheninagans with the "role"

Our Saiki however never got his show cancelled so he would still carry the role

You mention 2-A would be because he merged 'all of those worlds together once he had gained enough [sight] energy', correct? Could you reference a scan to show when this occurs? I don't believe any of the scans you provided mention this, but it could qualify.

Yeah. Let me look for the scan

Edit:

 

[ShionAH]

@Edutyn We did it brudda

Finally we did it

 

[Edutyn]

 

[ShionAH]

Someone has to find the scans and the chapter they are in

 

[Edutyn]

Someone has to find the scans and the chapter they are in

Off what?

 

[ShionAH]

Off what?

The scans in the OP

 

[Edutyn]

The scans in the OP

Give me a moment

 

[ShionAH]

Give me a moment

The giga chad

You dont have to get the scans for rejected abilities

 

[Edutyn]

Ability Additions

• Healing (He was able to heal Nendo's amnesia) The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 1 Chapter 2 : Get them back! The Lost Memories
• Mind Manipulation (Similar to his alternate version Saiki can mind control people to the point where humans wouldnt even notice the Saiki's erasing a entire city) The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko
• Telepathy (1 Layer) and Reactive Evolution (Even though Saiki failed to read his alternate versions mind using telepathy <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko |he somehow overcame this resistance <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo |. Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" who see him as fiction)
  • Saiki also stated that no attack or trick can work on him twice <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo| , this being supported by his alternate version <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|, and with how he was able to come back from the Dream World where he cannot use any of his powers
• Instinctive Action (He instinctively moved out of the way from an incoming attack that was supposed to be hundreds time faster than him) <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko|
• Summoning (Can summon Nendo'd deceased father) <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
• Transmutation/Sealing (Was gonna fuse the other Saiki with the ground) <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
• Subjective Reality: (One of the reasons Saiki put on his limiters was his mind control, which reached a point where anything Saiki imagined would come into existence) <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 23: Burn! PK Academy Sports Festival! (Part 2)|
• Extreme Cold (Saiki has been in space many times and has not suffered any effects from radiation or cold) The same of Cosmic Radiation
• Curse and Probability Manipulation: (Saiki has the to make a curse that caused everything to always hit Kaido) <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 206: The DiPSIster of UPSIless ESP|
• Resistance, Limited Power Nullification (2 Layers) Alredy on the profile except for layers
• Power Nullification (3 Layers): (Even though Alternate was similar to our Kusuo, who resisted Kusuke's 2 limiters, which sought |Same as resistance to power null| to eliminate his powers |Same as Resistance to Power Null|. Our Kusuo could cancel the telekinesis of his alternate version and prevent his alternate version from teleporting) <- This to alredy on the profile
• For his ghost. Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3 and 7) (Similar to other versions of him, Saiki is able to return as a ghost even after death) |The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 126: First Hand PSIence Fiction Part 3|

 

[Edutyn]

Tell me if I miss something

 

[ShionAH]

Tell me if I miss something

Passive Plot?

 

[Edutyn]

Passive Plot?

.....
Cuak

 

[Edutyn]

Metafictional Stuff

• Main Character
  • In the alternate universe Saiki Kusuo erased Nendo and did some actions that lead to his series being cancelled and forced him to go from being the protagonist to a side character | The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko |
  • This caused Mikami to be the protagonist <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko| and give him some serious plot based powers...
    • The scenes will not end until Mikami enters them in a dramatic fashion |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
    • Everything Mikami says will always be the truth no matter what because he is the main character |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
    • Even when Mikami says something wrong eventually he will be in the position where he is "right" |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
  • Haganeno also has these main character powers since he was changing the literal plot and the classification of the novel itself into a hero novel |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
  • These abilities should be given to Saiki aswell since he is the main character
• Sight Energy
  • ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off. It’s energy that exists in a completely different dimension from superpowers. |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
    • Haganeno used the ‘sight’ energy to make the boundaries between universes hazy. And then put all of those worlds together once he had gathered enough energy.
      • The cosmology consist of infinite parallel universes <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko| with each having infinite probable future that branches off to different universes with each small decision made <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 3 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuko|
    • He was planning on using this energy to completely change the series from "The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo" to "My Hero Studies"
    • Haganeno was planning on taking over the novel and series using sight energy |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
  • Sight Energy is 5D. It comes from the "readers" mind
    • The "Readers" are always depicted as people who read and see the entire universe as a two dimensional paper <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 17: Please Make Me Your DePSIple| , a <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 1 Chapter 1: Try to guess the ESP cards!| manga <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 16: School is Back in PSIssion! Nendou's Melancholy|, a novel <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 2 : The Disastrous Life of Teruhashi Kokomi|, and as simple two dimensional text |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 1 Chapter 5 : Avoid it! The Worst Ending|
• Psy Energy
  • Psy energy is the energy Saiki's have, they were able to fuse their powers because it is impossible for them to do it on their own even without limiters. They used this massive energy to create a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
• 5 Dimensional Hax
  • Saiki's all have Psy energy which is supposed to be the core of their powers |The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 4 : The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo|
  • With enough energy Psy can make a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy which would make it so Psy Energy at its peak can rival five dimensional power sources
  • Saiki already has shown that he can use his Telepathy <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 16: School is Back in PSIssion! Nendou's Melancholy|, Psychometry <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 17: Please Make Me Your DePSIple| on the readers themselves
    • He shows this 5D hax feats so many <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 2 Chapter 2 : The Disastrous Life of Teruhashi Kokomi|, times <-|The Disastrous Life of Saiki K: Extra Stories of Psychics, Volume 1 Chapter 1: Try to guess the ESP cards!|
  • We also have an direct confirmation about how Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" on fly <-|The Disastrous Life Of Saiki-K Manga: Chapter 206: The DiPSIster of UPSIless ESP|

 

[ShionAH]

Should I make a tabber for Ghost Saiki?

 

[Edutyn]

it would be unnecessary, in my opinion

 

[ShionAH]

it would be unnecessary, in my opinion

kirby has one

 

[Edutyn]

kirby has one

Kirby is Kirby
I still believe it is unnecessary.

 

[ShionAH]

I cannot add Passive Plot right now since @DarkGrath never really "agreed" to it yet