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First, I suggest you read this thread for more information on this topic.
5-D Sight Energy Argument:
The problem is that none of these statements prove 5-D/Qualitative Superiority by today's standards.
1. Calling the sources/users of this power supreme observers and referring to them as "readers" is a metaphor. Why? Because it's just a simple sentence to describe how that energy works. Even in the rest of the text there is no mention of them as readers, or that they see the lower realms as fiction, etc. In short, it is a simple metaphor to describe how this guys are watching others from their realm.
2. Even if we're count it as a "factual" statement, what we call Reality > Fiction by itself is not implies a higher dimensional existence. So the "readers" who own this power cannot be 5-D just because they are called "reader".
DT's comments on this kind of situation:
So, this refutes the main logic of the 5-D Sight Energy, which is that "the Supreme Observers view others as fiction and this power comes from them, so it must be 5-D".
Also;
3. The fact that this power comes from a "different dimension" does not lend any support to this issue. This again could be a realm that has the same dimensionality/same number of dimensional axes but is superior to the realms that are below them. As DontTalk and the HDE page explains, this kind of stuffs are just "more real". And even if such statements are combined with the above narrative, it does not mean an extra dimensional axis.
Conclusion;
Saiki's L1-C AP should be removed from the page.
Votes;
Agree: @Georredannea15, @Fixxed, @Mizuki67, @DontTalkDT, @Reiner, @PrinceofPein, @Aseka, @Planck69, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Cropfist
Disagree: @KingNanaya
Neutral:
5-D Sight Energy Argument:
“Do you know the energy called ‘sight’?”
I don’t know that word. Though I think I’ve seen “psy” used before.
I look at this world’s Saiki Kusuo, who shakes his head as well.
“You don’t know it, huh? Then allow me to explain! ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off.”
Huh. I see. I don’t understand a thing.
“It’s energy that exists in a completely different dimension from superpowers. I’m sure it must be hard to conceptualize. A full explanation of ‘sight’ energy would be too complicated, so for now, allow me to answer why I’m here in the first place. As the novelization progressed, this world has been shifting off-axis little by little. I used this ‘sight’ energy to infiltrate this novel and come to this world. Though I was caught and questioned by the police at first. Then I let one year go by, and that’s how we got here.”
This newly-serialized story’s protagonist just admitted that he’s been arrested by the police. Is everyone alright with that?
“That’s right, didn’t you notice several of Asou’s characters sprinkled throughout this world? They were part of a ritual of sorts. I used the ‘sight’ energy to make the boundaries between universes hazy. And then put all of those worlds together once I had gathered enough energy. There might be characters from all sorts of universes hiding in plain sight everywhere!” he says and then laughs maniacally.
“So that’s ‘sight’ energy!”
The problem is that none of these statements prove 5-D/Qualitative Superiority by today's standards.
1. Calling the sources/users of this power supreme observers and referring to them as "readers" is a metaphor. Why? Because it's just a simple sentence to describe how that energy works. Even in the rest of the text there is no mention of them as readers, or that they see the lower realms as fiction, etc. In short, it is a simple metaphor to describe how this guys are watching others from their realm.
2. Even if we're count it as a "factual" statement, what we call Reality > Fiction by itself is not implies a higher dimensional existence. So the "readers" who own this power cannot be 5-D just because they are called "reader".
DT's comments on this kind of situation:
So, this refutes the main logic of the 5-D Sight Energy, which is that "the Supreme Observers view others as fiction and this power comes from them, so it must be 5-D".
Also;
3. The fact that this power comes from a "different dimension" does not lend any support to this issue. This again could be a realm that has the same dimensionality/same number of dimensional axes but is superior to the realms that are below them. As DontTalk and the HDE page explains, this kind of stuffs are just "more real". And even if such statements are combined with the above narrative, it does not mean an extra dimensional axis.
Conclusion;
Saiki's L1-C AP should be removed from the page.
Votes;
Agree: @Georredannea15, @Fixxed, @Mizuki67, @DontTalkDT, @Reiner, @PrinceofPein, @Aseka, @Planck69, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Cropfist
Disagree: @KingNanaya
Neutral:
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