LGBTQIA+ and Gender Nonconforming Discussion Thread V2.0

[Pikaman]

The old thread got closed at OP’s request and even though it was basically dead I thought it was still nice to have around so here

Oh and the Staff Warning probably still applies so


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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i liked the lgbt stuff in genshin impact. Especially beidou x ningguang

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

It bugs me that girlxgirl main pairings seems to be okay with kid's networks but there hasn't really been any major boyxboy pairings yet. Whenever they do come up, they're always background or secondary characters at best.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

It bugs me that girlxgirl main pairings seems to be okay with kid's networks but there hasn't really been any major boyxboy pairings yet. Whenever they do come up, they're always background or secondary characters at best.

Dude X Dude pairings are relatively uncommon in most media, honestly. At least from what I can tell.

They might be considered less acceptable to audiences or some shit-

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Has nobody mentioned astolfo yet? Or does he not fit the requirements for this thread?

 

[Regidian]

Has nobody mentioned astolfo yet? Or does he not fit the requirements for this thread?

Well he doesn't fit the requirement he is not lgbt nor transgender, he just like the cloth that girl usualy have.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Well he doesn't fit the requirement he is not lgbt nor transgender, he just like the cloth that girl usualy have.

Okay.

Are waver and Alexander gay though? Or is that more of a fan thing?

 

[Regidian]

Okay.

Are waver and Alexander gay though? Or is that more of a fan thing?

Iskandar is bi, waver i don't know

 

[Board3659]

in BFDI

There is people who think Lollipop is Lesbian or Bi

or that Gaty is Trans

and other fan ideas on sexuality of the characters (some make sense than others)

but it hasn't been really confirmed besides ig an implication (I doubt it will be offically confirmed b/c of the fandoms ships and stuff not wanting to be destroyed)


However there have been Non-Binary and Gender Fluid characters so that's cool (Price tag, Profily, Winner, and CRT)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

other than ninggaung and beidou any other lgbt characters in genshin?

Iskandar is bi, waver i don't know

What about FGO? Do we have lgbt in fgo?

 

[Pikaman]

or that Gaty is Trans

Gaty is definitely trans, it’s not officially officially confirmed but like

 

[Board3659]

Gaty is definitely trans, it’s not officially officially confirmed but like

yeah but then isn't Lollipop Lesbian or BI with the BFB 20 flirt

I mean why not just confirm it if it basically is (I think b/c of fandom reasons but that's me)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i heard the new JOJOlands manga

one of the characters may be trans but i'm not 100% sure

 

[Board3659]

Gaty is definitely trans, it’s not officially officially confirmed but like

also idk but I find this scene funny in how:

I like being a number, yeah and I like being a girl

Idk I just find it so random

 

[Flashlight237]

It bugs me that girlxgirl main pairings seems to be okay with kid's networks but there hasn't really been any major boyxboy pairings yet. Whenever they do come up, they're always background or secondary characters at best.

Total Drama 2023 is looking like it would feature a major GuyxGuy couple based on promo material, so there's something.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i know marvel has lgbt characters but just how many of them?

 

[Flashlight237]

i know marvel has lgbt characters but just how many of them?

With how big Marvel is, I think the better question is where do we even begin?

I only know of an ex-Marvel artist named Nebezial, who made a lesbian BDSM comic of all things.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I only know of an ex-Marvel artist named Nebezial, who made a lesbian BDSM comic of all things.

okay let’s not talk about that more. I think that’s enough

 

[Shmooply]

Another LGB thread, another thread for me to shill Disco Elysium since you can play a bisexual in it.
my job here is done

 

[Flashlight237]

okay let’s not talk about that more. I think that’s enough

Yeah, agreed.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

What about FGO? Do we have lgbt in fgo?

A lot of it yes

Let me try to recall specific examples

 

[Flashlight237]

The most examples of LGBT characters I've ever seen and counted in any media is Senran Kagura. There are like four known LBGT characters at least, all girls. There's Katsuragi (basically a lesbian Master Roshi), Yagyu and Hibari (the legitimate LBGT couple of the pack), and Haruka (who had shown interest in dominating girls on multiple occasions).

After that, there's Komi-San Can't Communicate, which there are three examples I know of for sure: Yamai Ren (yandere), Agari Himiko (plus-sized girl who is more or less as socially agitated as Komi-San), and Nakanaka Omoharu (the overt LARPer).

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Interesting to note. Greek Mythology actually has a ton of LGBT+ references, for those into that kinda thing. Several Greek deities and heroes are known to have engaged in same-sex relationships in some of their legends.

 

[Ren1999]

A lot of it yes

Let me try to recall specific examples

since when are fgo characters there are LGBT?

 

[Board3659]

Interesting to note. Greek Mythology actually has a ton of LGBT+ references, for those into that kinda thing. Several Greek deities and heroes are known to have engaged in same-sex relationships in some of their legends.

Speaking of history:
historical people like Fedrick the Great were Gay or Alexander was bisexual

 

[Creaturemaster971]

@Artorimachi_Meteoraft
@Ren1999

Astolfo is bi and a femboy of course.
Chevalier is genderfluid (shapeshifting-assisted) and likes girls either way.
Fergus is bi (and very forward about it).
Mordred identifies as a girl but prefers masculine titles and doesn't mind male pronouns.
Prince of Lanling can make people gay
Gilgamesh is bi, he and Enkidu are a couple, and Enkidu is non-binary and physically genderless
Anne Bonny and Mary Read are a lesbian couple
Musashi is bi, as is Osakabehime, and the two have an implied crush on each other
Brynhild is bi, though she has a husband
Caenis is non-binary but usually refers to themself in masculine terms
Mary Anning is lesbian
Medusa is bi
Kiyohime is bi
Scathach is bi
Nero is bi
Tamamo is bi
Iskandar/Alexander the Great is bi
Achilles is bi
Bartholomew Roberts is bi
Francis Drake/Queen Elizabeth I is bi, doesn't mind male pronouns being used for her, and is quite proud of her manly behavior and vibe, though she refers to herself as female
Marie Antoinette is implied to be a burgeoning bisexual
Queen Medb is massively omnisexual. Her type is strong Irish men, but she'll sleep with anyone and anything.
Nemo is multiple genders at once due to being the entire crew.
Quetzalcoatl and Kukulkan are both bi
Ushiwakamaru is bi
Leonardo Da Vinci is genderfluid and bi, though she greatly prefers men
Medea is bi
Merlin is horny
Qin Shi Huang is non-binary (Their gender is "Qin")

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Those are just the ones I know of though

 

[Ren1999]

Those are just the ones I know of though

do you have any proof that in the list of all the fgo characters that you wrote, they are all bi?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

do you have any proof that in the list of all the fgo characters that you wrote, they are all bi?

Yes
But it would take a longass time to go through all of them

I totally can if you want though

 

[Ren1999]

Yes
But it would take a longass time to go through all of them

I totally can if you want though

minimalist, you give proof Scathach, Medusa and Kiyohime are bi

 

[Flashlight237]

Yes
But it would take a longass time to go through all of them

I totally can if you want though

Start with Astolfo.

 

[Ren1999]

Start with Astolfo.

Wait a minute, I want to ask where Astolfo is on the LGBT list, has he ever liked both boys and girls

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Well to start with
Astolfo being bi and Iskandar being bi are, I think, confirmed by word of god. I'll have to check again

Confirmed in dialogue:
Scathach propositions the protagonist regardless of gender, and says she wouldn't mind getting with Medb. Not to mention her type is "strong warriors", and makes it clear that either Mash or the protagonist is welcome if they can prove that. She also has a habit of getting with any of her students.
Medusa can have the protagonist ask if she minds the fact that she's a girl, and Medusa says that she doesn't, and starts to say that actually makes it better.
Kiyohime is a yandere to whoever summons her, male or female

There's a lot, for the others, so I may compile the rest tomorrow

 

[Ren1999]

Start with Astolfo.

no, Astolfo being a trap doesn't mean he's lgbt, his goal is to make his brother happy just temporarily because he's going crazy because his marriage proposal was rejected

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Astolfo is still feminine-presenting, however, despite identifying as male.

He also doesn't deny having a crush on Sieg when Jeanne asks him about it.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

"His conversations, through no ill intent on his part, have a way of meandering toward maximum social awkwardness. His hobby of adventuring gets himself mixed up in an assorted amount of mischief due to him constantly popping up everywhere. Since he has no wish in special to entrust the Holy Grail, this Servant's motivation greatly fluctuates depending on whether or not he likes his Master. The type who is frankly straight with the person he came to like, regardless of said person being of the opposite or the same sex. "

Said about Astolfo in his FGO character materials

 

[Creaturemaster971]

"
Higashide: If Kayneth were Rider's master it wouldn't have worked out. But there wouldn't be any cheating*. (*as in Sola-Ui with Lancer)
Urobuchi: Not exactly cheating but I think [Rider] would basically go at it as if to **** both of them.
Higashide: Oh yeah, he's bisexual.
Haganeya: Bisexuality was relatively normal for people of ancient times.
"

Rider referring to Iskandar

 

[Ren1999]

Confirmed in dialogue:
Scathach propositions the protagonist regardless of gender, and says she wouldn't mind getting with Medb. Not to mention her type is "strong warriors", and makes it clear that either Mash or the protagonist is welcome if they can prove that. She also has a habit of getting with any of her students.
Medusa can have the protagonist ask if she minds the fact that she's a girl, and Medusa says that she doesn't, and starts to say that actually makes it better.
Kiyohime is a yandere to whoever summons her, male or female

still not sent the scan, can you provide proof in the game that they are bi, minimalist for scathach, kiyohime and medusa

 

[Creaturemaster971]

still not sent the scan, can you provide proof in the game that they are bi, minimalist for scathach, kiyohime and medusa

Minimalist?

Also lol hunting down the actual scans is gonna be annoying

 

[Ren1999]

Minimalist?

Also lol hunting down the actual scans is gonna be annoying

the smallest list is only 3 characters that you can prove that bi, and also I need proof from the actual game that they are Lgbt not from the origin of the comments