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Using Religion references for Upgrades
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Probably came from the 1-A Avatar thing
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When i asked a question about Christian Cosmology, they said it was a sensitive question
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After seeing this post some questions come to my mind that are related to this.
Could a fictional religion be used for upgrades? There was this anime isekai about a guy that basically become the reencarnation of one of the gods in that universe, there is a religion about that said god and despite some things proabbly being inspired by real religion could the information that is given to us about that relegion used to scale that character?
And what about if whatever fiction we talking about talks about the same religion for example there are multiple movies about the Cristian religion about Jesus life and all that could we use religion references to upgrade a charter since their are very much based on the religion that we know as Christianism?
Could a fictional religion be used for upgrades? There was this anime isekai about a guy that basically become the reencarnation of one of the gods in that universe, there is a religion about that said god and despite some things proabbly being inspired by real religion could the information that is given to us about that relegion used to scale that character?
And what about if whatever fiction we talking about talks about the same religion for example there are multiple movies about the Cristian religion about Jesus life and all that could we use religion references to upgrade a charter since their are very much based on the religion that we know as Christianism?
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Seeing religions as fiction can be considered an insult to faith and believers.
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It's because fiction can use it without having it be the same tier or give the same abilities. Most of the time it's the author attempting to understand a religious text and trying to put their interpretation of how they believe it should ne portrayed.
So, the context of how a story uses it is important.
unless its Saint Seiya where the Autjor admits to studying budfhist concepts and literally copies and paste it into his story, and a team of assistants help him potray it, and debate about it
So, the context of how a story uses it is important.
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Well the crt for it isn't posted yet because the concept is related to UES, cosmology, and powers. Im.making a blog for each of those.
It has to be 1:1 with portrayal and statements.
This is a blog I made but as time goes on I'll change. Most if the information I want to use is already on there and it's Luke 99% done. Just structural, and grammar changes will be needed.
The 8th Sense in Saint Seiya Explained
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It's the same as the Cthulhu Mythos, no matter how much it's mentioned, unless it's described in depth to have the exact same Cosmology, and sed Cosmology is described to use the same scaling, then they don't scale to one another.
Fiction can contain religion, however, you cannot use religion to extend the context of a verse beyond what is directly stated. For example, the Milky Way in Chinese Mythology is Infinite, and JTTW follows Chinese Mythology and uses the same name as Mythology for the Milky Way. But in the end, the Milky Way is not stated to be infinite in JTTW, so it's simply not infinite.
Put simply, it's best to avoid religion, or relying on religious evidence in general for a CRT and just focus on what's stated in the source material and by the Author.
Fiction can contain religion, however, you cannot use religion to extend the context of a verse beyond what is directly stated. For example, the Milky Way in Chinese Mythology is Infinite, and JTTW follows Chinese Mythology and uses the same name as Mythology for the Milky Way. But in the end, the Milky Way is not stated to be infinite in JTTW, so it's simply not infinite.
Put simply, it's best to avoid religion, or relying on religious evidence in general for a CRT and just focus on what's stated in the source material and by the Author.
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As for why, it's insulting to call someone's God Fiction, which is the same as calling someone's religion fake, and that's a shit storm no one want's to deal with, especially considering God's are normally described as Omnipotent and therefor shouldn't fit in our Tiering System and stuff.
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Not even cosmology per se. But certain concepts. For instance Yin and Yang, or Nirvana
Here's a scenario
What if the verse states that Nirvana exists there. Would that give them anything Nirvana actually grants?
Also some verses are upgraded to TD because Yin and Yang was mentioned there like once, in a sentence
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That's in depth. I'd read it. What are the list of things that it grants the charactersThe 8th Sense in Saint Seiya Explained
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At least Transduality type 2
Adaption, and RE to Dimensional Manipulation that scales to the verses cosmology
Acausality type 5 limited to soul and the mind that scales to the cosmology
R>F difference that scales to cosmology (mind only)
NPI on AE Type 1 with Type 1 concepts
Immortality type 5 (soul and mind)
Possibly cosmic awareness
Resistance to BFR that scales to the cosmology
Resistance to Law Manipulation
9th Sense would give
All forms of NEP including plot based NEP thanks to Hero of Heroes manga.
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Nirvana could be a place or a state of being. It could also be both. It depends on how the author interprets it.Not even cosmology per se. But certain concepts. For instance Yin and Yang, or Nirvana
Here's a scenario
What if the verse states that Nirvana exists there. Would that give them anything Nirvana actually grants?
Also some verses are upgraded to TD because Yin and Yang was mentioned there like once, in a sentence
I've seen Yin and Yang be used to describe very minor things in fiction l.
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yes, but thats also how its shown in verse too.All this power
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"All this power "
and still no High-Godly regen =P
Ok what if say they have a 1 on 1 comparison from say the original Christian Religion and these 1 on 1 comparison are on the best 4 feats ( along with the insert story of it) from the God of Christian as well knowledging the fact he's a character of influence.
Does he now get a profile?
or if another character is scaled higher does he now?
"and still no High-Godly regen =P
Ok what if say they have a 1 on 1 comparison from say the original Christian Religion and these 1 on 1 comparison are on the best 4 feats ( along with the insert story of it) from the God of Christian as well knowledging the fact he's a character of influence.
Does he now get a profile?
or if another character is scaled higher does he now?
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that blog took me almost 2 years to make lol
the canoncity blog i made has taken somewhere between 4 to 8 months to get as far i am now. i forgot when i started but it was at some point last year late
still got several more i need to make for the verse lol
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even if you say its a 1:1 of this and that but did not elaborate which. it is equivalent to saying transcends human math and not elaborating on which math or set theory or extreme cardinals etc etc. (of course we don't give someone tier 0 for just transcending math that's just stupid)
it rarely grants anything at all unless the series elaborated/showcased/made example/portrayed on it. and when it does it will be limited to what was shown/elaborated
it rarely grants anything at all unless the series elaborated/showcased/made example/portrayed on it. and when it does it will be limited to what was shown/elaborated
