ACTUALIZACIÓN DE LEJÍA MULTIVERSAL

[sanzu]

I don't know if this has already been discussed but even so I add it, aizen was able to affect space-time with his hado 90 as well as overcome kototsu who was a being of reason and dominated the space time of dangai so as not to wank him so much Shouldn't this at least make it 4D?

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[Romeu08]

Its just hax

 

[sanzu]

Its just hax

Well if I say it is true but the first one (kototsu) controlled time which is 4D aizen, when he overcomes it, he should climb it above him as well as being able to affect time with fate, right?

 

[Yohata]

Well if I say it is true but the first one (kototsu) controlled time which is 4D aizen, when he overcomes it, he should climb it above him as well as being able to affect time with fate, right?

Just hax as well

 

[Thelastmlg]

Time is not 4D, spacetime is 4D, and he distorted it via gravity as it says in the scan, which is just what gravity does already, especially when it gets stronger.

For the first one, still just hax, he'd have to significantly affect or destroy it with his sheer power, plus why would it make him multiversal?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Well if I say it is true but the first one (kototsu) controlled time which is 4D aizen, when he overcomes it, he should climb it above him as well as be able to affect time with fate, right?

Just hax.
Are you here suggesting Bleach Character as a 4D dimensional being?

 

[Aachintya31]

I couldn't agree more

 

[sanzu]

Just hax.
Are you here suggesting Bleach Character as a 4D dimensional being?

not entirely, I have seen many debunks to the verse of bleach of which I totally agree, however I never saw that they tried to debunk the feat that was done by the hado 90 and the destruction of kototsu (being of reason) for which I see half valid

 

[Yohata]

not entirely, I have seen many debunks to the verse of bleach of which I totally agree, however I never saw that they tried to debunk the feat that was done by the hado 90 and the destruction of kototsu (being of reason) for which I see half valid

So what are you saying exactly
Is it low 2-C ?
No since there is no evidence that its a universal space-time
Is it 4D ?
No since destroying 4D doesn't make you 4D

And the scan say that it command space and time
Wich mean it control them = spacetime manipulation = hax

Nothing more

 

[ImmortalDread]

Pretty sure this hax was presented in anime or? He done this against Ichigo and we all know it was literally pocket dimension that has no time and space.

Nice try but this is hax

 

[sanzu]

Pretty sure this hax was presented in anime or? He done this against Ichigo and we all know it was literally pocket dimension that has no time and space.

Nice try but this is hax

Well, if we are referring to kototsu, the control of space, not that I know of, however, he did show some control of time, being that when Ichigo went to the soul society for the first time, Ichigo was even sent several days before, as well as the fact that he dangai has the most dense and accelerated time, So controlling time doesn't qualify as 4D if this is a hax product?

 

[WanderingGecko]

Manipulating time doesn’t grant you 4-D power.

 

[sanzu]

So what are you saying exactly
Is it low 2-C ?
No since there is no evidence that its a universal space-time
Is it 4D ?
No since destroying 4D doesn't make you 4D

And the scan say that it command space and time
Wich mean it control them = spacetime manipulation = hax

Nothing more

So the fact of overcoming someone with the ability to control space time like the kototsu can do doesn't scale to anything because this is the product of a hax? I really put it here because many climbers of bleach argued that due to the fact that it controlled time and space being this from a higher dimension and that a three-dimensional being could not do it, that would make it "universal" at least that without putting the wank of what as kototsu is a being of reason that would make him outer

 

[ImmortalDread]

Well, if we are referring to kototsu, the control of space, not that I know of, however, he did show some control of time, being that when Ichigo went to the soul society for the first time, Ichigo was even sent several days before, as well as the fact that he dangai has the most dense and accelerated time, So controlling time doesn't qualify as 4D if this is a hax product?

No. It does not grant you 4D hax.

 

[sanzu]

No. It does not grant you 4D hax.

Is there a thread where it has been explained why controlling time doesn't make you 4D? I thought that the thing about aizen and the destruction of kototsu capable could scale it to at least uni 3D

 

[sanzu]

Manipulating time doesn’t grant you 4-D power.

So I suppose that neither of the 2 scans is valid to climb to aizen, right? I had read that since time is 4D, a 3D being should not manipulate it, just like overcoming someone who controls said thing So in any case, what would you give him?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Is there a thread where it has been explained why controlling time doesn't make you 4D? I thought that the thing about aizen and the destruction of kototsu capable could scale it to at least uni 3D

It is self-explanatory. According to your analogy, time manipulation is automatically 4D. Makes no sense.

 

[ImmortalDread]

So I suppose that neither of the 2 scans is valid to climb to aizen, right? I had read that since time is 4D, a 3D being should not manipulate it, just like overcoming someone who controls said thing So in any case, what would you give him?

You are confusing two different things.

 

[Yohata]

Is there a thread where it has been explained why controlling time doesn't make you 4D? I thought that the thing about aizen and the destruction of kototsu capable could scale it to at least uni 3D

Time alone is not 4D at the first place
Its time + 3D space = 4D

 

[Damage3245]

It seems like this has been rejected.

 

[ImmortalDread]

It seems like this has been rejected.

You can close it. The OP does not understand that using time manipulation is not 4D hax, and has never been treated as such.
Also, he may be confused with space-time hax and space-time continuum as well.