Megami Tensei question

[Timeless]

Where does Enlil. Yaldabaoth, and Canopus scale to beings like Philemon, Nyarlathotep, YHVH, and Nyx?

Also, shouldn’t Persona 1 be 1-A?

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Megami Tensei is undergoing some major revisions (again), but I believe the current ratings are as follows:

Enlil - Baseline 1-A, but relatively high in the scaling chain (scales above Masakado).

Yaldabaoth - Baseline 1-A. Stronger than Lavenza.

Canopus - 1 layer into 1-A. Superior to Polaris, who is comparable to a YHVH Manifestation Head.

Philemon and Nyarlathotep - 4 layers into 1-A. As the embodiments of the CU itself, they scale above The Great Will, who is simply another Demon abusing a loophole, and reside in a realm deeper than the Kadath Mandala.

YHVH - His Manifestation Heads are 1 layer into 1-A, while his true form as The Great Will is 3 layers.

Nyx - I'm unsure of her exact tiering, but she's at least above Masakado.

Persona 1 should be 1-A, we just haven't fully figured out the scaling yet.

 

[Timeless]

Megami Tensei is undergoing some major revisions (again), but I believe the current ratings are as follows:

Enlil - Baseline 1-A, but relatively high in the scaling chain (scales above Masakado).

Yaldabaoth - Baseline 1-A. Stronger than Lavenza.

Canopus - 1 layer into 1-A. Superior to Polaris, who is comparable to a YHVH Manifestation Head.

Philemon and Nyarlathotep - 4 layers into 1-A. As the embodiments of the CU itself, they scale above The Great Will, who is simply another Demon abusing a loophole, and reside in a realm deeper than the Kadath Mandala.

YHVH - His Manifestation Heads are 1 layer into 1-A, while his true form as The Great Will is 3 layers.

Nyx - I'm unsure of her exact tiering, but she's at least above Masakado.

Persona 1 should be 1-A, we just haven't fully figured out the scaling yet.

Are there any demons that are 2 layers in?

 

[Timeless]

Nyx should be pretty high from what I can tell

 

[Timeless]

Megami Tensei is undergoing some major revisions (again), but I believe the current ratings are as follows:

Enlil - Baseline 1-A, but relatively high in the scaling chain (scales above Masakado).

Yaldabaoth - Baseline 1-A. Stronger than Lavenza.

Canopus - 1 layer into 1-A. Superior to Polaris, who is comparable to a YHVH Manifestation Head.

Philemon and Nyarlathotep - 4 layers into 1-A. As the embodiments of the CU itself, they scale above The Great Will, who is simply another Demon abusing a loophole, and reside in a realm deeper than the Kadath Mandala.

YHVH - His Manifestation Heads are 1 layer into 1-A, while his true form as The Great Will is 3 layers.

Nyx - I'm unsure of her exact tiering, but she's at least above Masakado.

Persona 1 should be 1-A, we just haven't fully figured out the scaling yet.

I heard that The Great Reason is 8 layers into 1-A. Where to layers 5, 6, and 7 come in and where does Full-Power Adam Kadmon and Stephen scale?

 

[Timeless]

Megami Tensei is undergoing some major revisions (again)

Oh?

 

[Timeless]

Enlil - Baseline 1-A, but relatively high in the scaling chain (scales above Masakado).

It says on the page that she transcends the Persona Multiverse. Does that imply anything for her tiering or not

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Are there any demons that are 2 layers in?

Only Matter Lucifer and post-game Nahobino.

I heard that The Great Reason is 8 layers into 1-A. Where to layers 5, 6, and 7 come in and where does Full-Power Adam Kadmon and Stephen scale?

There'll be a huge overhaul to the cosmological structure, so this information will be outdated in a few months. However, here's what's currently accepted:

Atziluth/Kadath Mandala/Diamond Realm (Baseline 1-A) < The Throne (YHVH and comparable beings) < The Realm Between Heaven and Earth (Matter Lucifer) < Outer "Universe" (The Great Will) < Monado Mandala (Philemon and Nyarlathotep) < Stephen and Adam Kadmon < The Axiom

It says on the page that she transcends the Persona Multiverse. Does that imply anything for her tiering or not

Not really, no. The Persona Multiverse is only a 2-A structure.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Are there any demons that are 2 layers in?

What does layer mean

 

[Timeless]

Only Matter Lucifer and post-game Nahobino.


There'll be a huge overhaul to the cosmological structure, so this information will be outdated in a few months. However, here's what's currently accepted:

Atziluth/Kadath Mandala/Diamond Realm (Baseline 1-A) < The Throne (YHVH and comparable beings) < The Realm Between Heaven and Earth (Matter Lucifer) < Outer "Universe" (The Great Will) < Monado Mandala (Philemon and Nyarlathotep) < Stephen and Adam Kadmon < The Axiom


Not really, no. The Persona Multiverse is only a 2-A structure.

What's the overhaul roughly going to be? Or smoothly for that matter

 

[Lukewoesal007]

What's the overhaul roughly going to be? Or smoothly for that matter

You'll see.

 

[Timeless]

You'll see.

Will it affect of the tiering or will it purely be cosmological. Also, what's the timeframe that you're expecting?

 

[Timeless]

Will it affect of the tiering or will it purely be cosmological. Also, what's the timeframe that you're expecting?

 

[Timeless]

Will it affect of the tiering or will it purely be cosmological. Also, what's the timeframe that you're expecting?