Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

[Tllmbrg]

I'll go with my problems with the ratings page by page

The Player (Ring Fit Adventure)

Tier: At least 9-C, likely higher | 9-B | High 8-C, higher at World 15 | 8-B | 8-B | 8-A Key: Without Ring | Worlds 1-4 | Worlds 5-20 | Finalia/Extra Fitness Worlds 1-20 | Extra Fitness Finalia/Fitness Master Worlds 1-20 | Fitness Master Finalia Name: Ring Fit Trainee, Nicknamed Tiny, Medium...

vsbattles.fandom.com

At least Street level (Could snap the leather bands containing Dragaux within Ring), likely higher (Can destroy 5 robots with the swing of a large bat)

Needs a calc, can easily be over 9-C

Wall level (Ring boosted the Player's strength by syncing with them, allowing them to take on Out-of-Shape Dragaux, Can reduce boulders to rubble by crushing them)

Needs a calc, because this easily can be above 9-B

Large Building level (Air Blasts can destroy giant boulders), higher at World 15

Why is he higher at World 15

City Block level (Defeated Main Story Dark Dragaux) | City Block level+ (Defeated Main Story Dark Dragaux)

Why is the reasoning for two different values the same thing?

Dragaux

Dragaux was born and raised in the Land of Night, a strange country where the sun never rises. He was once weak and scrawny but was trained by Ring to become powerful, at some point becoming corrupted by the Dark Influence, which took advantage of his shame and obsession over his body He stole...

vsbattles.fandom.com

City Block level (Absorbed the Corrupted Four Masters, who by this point compare to Dragaux prior to the Main Story's Finalia), higher as Dark Dragaux

At face value this looks fine until you check the pages it links to:

Allegra (Ring Fit Adventure)

Allegra once studied under Dashley in improving the fitness of her legs. She eventually became the Leg Master of the Four Masters. She is a master of anything related to legs. After fighting alongside the other Four Masters against Dragaux, she was defeated and corrupted by his Dark Influence...

vsbattles.fandom.com

At least Building level, possibly Large Building level in World 5 (The Four Masters together were easily defeated by Dragaux), Large Building level while corrupted (The Corrupted Four Masters were empowered by Dragaux's Dark Influence), higher in the Land of Hades (The Four Masters trained the Player together to prepare them for Finalia)

So their reasoning for being 8-C, possibly High 8-C is being beaten up easily as a group... do I even need to explain the problem here?

And this is just the surface area stuff, I'm certain I can dig up more issues if I tried
So unless you want to revise all the pages or the page creator wants they should be nuked

 

[Armorchompy]

I'll go with my problems with the ratings page by page

The Player (Ring Fit Adventure)

Tier: At least 9-C, likely higher | 9-B | High 8-C, higher at World 15 | 8-B | 8-B | 8-A Key: Without Ring | Worlds 1-4 | Worlds 5-20 | Finalia/Extra Fitness Worlds 1-20 | Extra Fitness Finalia/Fitness Master Worlds 1-20 | Fitness Master Finalia Name: Ring Fit Trainee, Nicknamed Tiny, Medium...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Needs a calc, can easily be over 9-C

Needs a calc, because this easily can be above 9-B

Why is he higher at World 15

Why is the reasoning for two different values the same thing?

Dragaux

Dragaux was born and raised in the Land of Night, a strange country where the sun never rises. He was once weak and scrawny but was trained by Ring to become powerful, at some point becoming corrupted by the Dark Influence, which took advantage of his shame and obsession over his body He stole...

vsbattles.fandom.com

At face value this looks fine until you check the pages it links to:

Allegra (Ring Fit Adventure)

Allegra once studied under Dashley in improving the fitness of her legs. She eventually became the Leg Master of the Four Masters. She is a master of anything related to legs. After fighting alongside the other Four Masters against Dragaux, she was defeated and corrupted by his Dark Influence...

vsbattles.fandom.com

So their reasoning for being 8-C, possibly High 8-C is being beaten up easily as a group... do I even need to explain the problem here?

And this is just the surface area stuff, I'm certain I can dig up more issues if I tried
So unless you want to revise all the pages or the page creator wants they should be nuked

At worst this seems to me like the masters should be nuked, rest's fine enough

 

[Tllmbrg]

Nearly all of Draugux's ratings are basically guesswork though
I don't think 1-2 ratings that are finish cover for bad everything else (Same for The Player)

 

[Confluctor]

Validus

In the 30th century, Darkseid stole the child of Garth Ranz and Imra Ardeen, Garridan Ranzz. After experimenting on the child, he sent Garridan 10 years back in time to kill his parents as the monstrous Validus. Tier: 2-C Name: Garridan Ranzz, Validus Age: Unknown Origin: DC Comics...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Plain terrible. Also AP issues

Gary, The Pathetic Fallacy

Gary, the Pathetic Fallacy is the anthropomorphic personification of all anthropomorphic personifications in the Fables mythos. He is one of the beings known as Literals who are embodiment of storytelling, and is considered to be one of the oldest of them all. As a Literal, Gary is immortal and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Bad

Karate Kid (Pre-Crisis)

Tier: Varies from 8-A to 2-C Name: Val Armorr Origin: DC Comics Gender: Male Age: In his late 20s to early 30s Classification: Human Martial Artist Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Expert Martial Arts, Resistance to Mind Control Attack Potency: Varies from Multi-City...

vsbattles.fandom.com

bad

The Infinite Man

Tier: 2-C, possibly 2-A Name: Professor Jaxon Rugarth Origin: DC Comics Gender: Male Classification: Abstract Being, Embodiment of Time as an Endless Cycle, Formerly Human Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Energy Manipulation, Flight, Time Manipulation, Time Travel...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Bad. Also 9 appearances, tho fairly important. I could recreate it sometime, but definitely not any time soon

can someone yeet these ones already?

 

[Antvasima]

Validus

In the 30th century, Darkseid stole the child of Garth Ranz and Imra Ardeen, Garridan Ranzz. After experimenting on the child, he sent Garridan 10 years back in time to kill his parents as the monstrous Validus. Tier: 2-C Name: Garridan Ranzz, Validus Age: Unknown Origin: DC Comics...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Plain terrible. Also AP issues

Gary, The Pathetic Fallacy

Gary, the Pathetic Fallacy is the anthropomorphic personification of all anthropomorphic personifications in the Fables mythos. He is one of the beings known as Literals who are embodiment of storytelling, and is considered to be one of the oldest of them all. As a Literal, Gary is immortal and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Bad

Karate Kid (Pre-Crisis)

Tier: Varies from 8-A to 2-C Name: Val Armorr Origin: DC Comics Gender: Male Age: In his late 20s to early 30s Classification: Human Martial Artist Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Expert Martial Arts, Resistance to Mind Control Attack Potency: Varies from Multi-City...

vsbattles.fandom.com

bad

The Infinite Man

Tier: 2-C, possibly 2-A Name: Professor Jaxon Rugarth Origin: DC Comics Gender: Male Classification: Abstract Being, Embodiment of Time as an Endless Cycle, Formerly Human Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Energy Manipulation, Flight, Time Manipulation, Time Travel...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Bad. Also 9 appearances, tho fairly important. I could recreate it sometime, but definitely not any time soon

can someone yeet these ones already?

If I do so, would you or somebody else here be willing to remove all links to them from other regular VSB wiki pages please?

 

[Antvasima]

I also personally think that it is probably fine to remove the Ring Fit pages, as long as it is done in a proper manner.

 

[Antvasima]

Wait a minute. I skimmed through Dragaux's page, and it seems like he has calculations for his statistics. We should preferably remove pages with statistics that are based purely on guesswork.

 

[Confluctor]

If I do so, would you or somebody else here be willing to remove all links to them from other regular VSB wiki pages please?

As long as the pages are open, yeah

 

[Tllmbrg]

Wait a minute. I skimmed through Dragaux's page, and it seems like he has calculations for his statistics. We should preferably remove pages with statistics that are based purely on guesswork.

Again, it's 1-2 of his ratings out of of 6
Are you legit telling me that a 3rd decentish?

Heck other sections are also questionable asf

Subsonic movement speed (Calculated here, Unknown flight speed, At least Subsonic+ reaction speed (Can fight against the Player), likely higher via fire breath

Why is the fire breath higher, why doesn't flight speed scale to other movement and so on (Btw the subsonic+ from The Player is not calced lol)

 

[Tllmbrg]

If I do so, would you or somebody else here be willing to remove all links to them from other regular VSB wiki pages please?

Did and deleted the pages myself

 

[Antvasima]

Did and deleted the pages myself

Thank you very much for helping out.

Again, it's 1-2 of his ratings out of of 6
Are you legit telling me that a 3rd decentish?

No, but I thought his other statistics were based on multiples of the values that the accepted calculation blogs provided. I may have misunderstood due to not checking thoroughly enough though.

Heck other sections are also questionable asf

Why is the fire breath higher, why doesn't flight speed scale to other movement and so on (Btw the subsonic+ from The Player is not calced lol)

Well, couldn't the page be rewritten to only include the statistics that are based on calculations then?

 

[Armorchompy]

Ring Fit has a good Respect Thread

 

[Shmooply]

Isn't Ring Fit's story also, like, super linear? Should be pretty easy to find all the feats and place them on the profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems like a good point, but somebody needs to be willing to do it as well.

 

[Armorchompy]

Respect Thread contains enough to quickly refresh the profile even for someone who doesn't know the verse, I think that's better than deletion

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that makes sense. Would somebody here be willing to handle it?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Kat (Kid vs Kat)

Agent 27B is an alien of a planet called Kat Nebula (home of an entire race of sapient felines). Coop and Dennis usually derisively shorten his name to just Kat, though this term is also used to refer to his species. Kat was sent to Earth to take over the planet for his kind, but since he was...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats are bad, no scans and the respect thread that is linked isn't that good

Can I proceed with deleting this?

Also I'll add more stuff to the pile:

Dillon's Rolling Western

Dillon's Rolling Western, known in Japan as The Rolling Western (ザ・ローリング・ウエスタン Za Rōringu Uesutan), is a downloadable video game developed by Vanpool and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 3DS. Released exclusively through the system's Nintendo eShop online storefront, the game features...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats seem to be guesswork, there no scans and the person who made the pages seem to be inactive

Troll Queen (East)

The Troll Queen is the malevolent ruler of trolls in the Book East. With a goal of marrying her brainwashed polar bear-man Myk, she is eventually defeated by Rose, the book's hero. Tier: High 8-C Name: Troll Queen Origin: East Gender: Female Age: Unknown Classification: Queen, Troll Powers and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats lack any evidence or calcs and the person who made this is also inactive

The Owlman

The Owlman is the main antagonist of Lord of Tears and is loosely based on the urban legend of the same name. Tier: Unknown Name: The Owlman, Moloch Origin: Lord Of Tears Gender: Unknown, referred to as male Age: Unknown Classification: God of all sacrifice Powers and Abilities: Teleportation...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Basically lacks any stats and the P&A lacks any reasoning + user who made is inactive
Having Unknown stats is okay if the P&A is decent but like it isn't so

The Dark Crystal

vsbattles.fandom.com

Rating is uncertain and unless someone wants to watch an entire movie to revise this...

 

[Armorchompy]

Can I proceed with deleting this?

Also I'll add more stuff to the pile:

Dillon's Rolling Western

Dillon's Rolling Western, known in Japan as The Rolling Western (ザ・ローリング・ウエスタン Za Rōringu Uesutan), is a downloadable video game developed by Vanpool and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 3DS. Released exclusively through the system's Nintendo eShop online storefront, the game features...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats seem to be guesswork, there no scans and the person who made the pages seem to be inactive

 

[Tllmbrg]

Okay calc this feats and make a CRT

 

[Armorchompy]

That's not necessary, busting through tank armor is 9-A on its own without need of a calc.

 

[Tllmbrg]

It says tank like in the RT, I'd rather not assume it's like a regular tank just because

 

[Armorchompy]

It says tank like in the RT, I'd rather not assume it's like a regular tank just because

I would, looks close enough. Plus like, worst case scenario he can just be At least 9-B, that's better than deletion innit?

 

[Tllmbrg]

No.

 

[Antvasima]

Can I proceed with deleting this?

I tink so, yes.

Also I'll add more stuff to the pile:

Dillon's Rolling Western

Dillon's Rolling Western, known in Japan as The Rolling Western (ザ・ローリング・ウエスタン Za Rōringu Uesutan), is a downloadable video game developed by Vanpool and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 3DS. Released exclusively through the system's Nintendo eShop online storefront, the game features...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats seem to be guesswork, there no scans and the person who made the pages seem to be inactive

Troll Queen (East)

The Troll Queen is the malevolent ruler of trolls in the Book East. With a goal of marrying her brainwashed polar bear-man Myk, she is eventually defeated by Rose, the book's hero. Tier: High 8-C Name: Troll Queen Origin: East Gender: Female Age: Unknown Classification: Queen, Troll Powers and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Stats lack any evidence or calcs and the person who made this is also inactive

The Owlman

The Owlman is the main antagonist of Lord of Tears and is loosely based on the urban legend of the same name. Tier: Unknown Name: The Owlman, Moloch Origin: Lord Of Tears Gender: Unknown, referred to as male Age: Unknown Classification: God of all sacrifice Powers and Abilities: Teleportation...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Basically lacks any stats and the P&A lacks any reasoning + user who made is inactive
Having Unknown stats is okay if the P&A is decent but like it isn't so

The Dark Crystal

vsbattles.fandom.com

Rating is uncertain and unless someone wants to watch an entire movie to revise this...

I personally think that deleting them seems fine at least.

 

[Antvasima]

That's not necessary, busting through tank armor is 9-A on its own without need of a calc.

Is there a standard calculation for such feats? If so, you should link to it in the relevant character profile pages to avoid having them be deleted.

 

[Tllmbrg]

I personally think that deleting them seems fine at least.

Besides Dillon I deleted them all

 

[Armorchompy]

Is there a standard calculation for such feats? If so, you should link to it in the relevant character profile pages to avoid having them be deleted.

this thing's durability

 

[Antvasima]

Besides Dillon I deleted them all

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Armorchompy]

No.

Cool, that's your opinion and all, I do disagree though.

 

[Antvasima]

this thing's durability

It is much preferable with energy value calculations.

 

[Armorchompy]

It is much preferable with energy value calculations.

I understand that but without knowledge of the verse those are difficult, mainly regarding height of characters and material. Still the verse is absolutely at the very least wall level, so I think just linking to a couple of feats under an "At least Wall level" rating is preferable to deletion.

 

[Agnaa]

this thing's durability

That seems quite strange. Those guns in reference vary from 9-B+ to 9-A, yet the dura's at a fixed 9-A.

And in principle, it seems a bit strange to scale "busting tank armour" to "a very durable tank that can survive multiple hits from weapons designed to destroy tanks", but this part could just be misunderstanding how potent anti-tank weaponry is meant to be.

It is much preferable with energy value calculations.

There are energy value calculations reached, eventually. Although, not so much for the 9-A end.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I agree with Armorchompy here

 

[Antvasima]

I understand that but without knowledge of the verse those are difficult, mainly regarding height of characters and material. Still the verse is absolutely at the very least wall level, so I think just linking to a couple of feats under an "At least Wall level" rating is preferable to deletion.

It would be much better if you calculate some of the feats or refer to our standard feats page. Otherwise it seems too unreliable to me.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems quite strange. Those guns in reference vary from 9-B+ to 9-A, yet the dura's at a fixed 9-A.

And in principle, it seems a bit strange to scale "busting tank armour" to "a very durable tank that can survive multiple hits from weapons designed to destroy tanks", but this part could just be misunderstanding how potent anti-tank weaponry is meant to be.

It is much preferable with energy value calculations.

There are energy value calculations reached, eventually. Although, not so much for the 9-A end.

Yes, the real world tank page seems to need some cleanup work as well.

 

[Armorchompy]

It would be much better if you calculate some of the feats or refer to our standard feats page. Otherwise it seems too unreliable to me.

I've already explained that without knowledge of the verse that would very well be guesswork, I don't know the size of the characters. That said, the feats are definitely at least wall level, and generally we allow 9-B ratings to pass without a calculation

 

[Tllmbrg]

We really shouldn't

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I believe this profile should be deleted for reasons that I hope are apparent just by looking at it. But to give a more in depth explanation, it is a character from a series where she has been reincarnated as a prostitute, and whose primary power is literally just having men cum in her. This is quite obviously against our rules against explicit content, given the focus of the series is ostensibly gaining more power through constantly having sex.

In case that alone isn't enough... the manga itself has gems such as this (content warning for explicit mention of ****):

Spoiler

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/995396219205599262/995396251984068638/unknown.png

EDIT: I have, unfortunately, found another similar panel.
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/995396219205599262/995398315820716072/unknown.png

god i hated typing this shit out

 

[azontr]

I believe this profile should be deleted for reasons that I hope are apparent just by looking at it. But to give a more in depth explanation, it is a character from a series where she has been reincarnated as a prostitute, and whose primary power is literally just having men cum in her. This is quite obviously against our rules against explicit content, given the focus of the series is ostensibly gaining more power through constantly having sex.

In case that alone isn't enough... the manga itself has gems such as this (content warning for explicit mention of ****):

Spoiler

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/995396219205599262/995396251984068638/unknown.png

god i hated typing this shit out

Sorry for the derail but this profile deserves a certified

 

[Armorchompy]

We really shouldn't

I disagree