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which is greater, Acausality type 4 or greater causality manipulation

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Acausality Type 4 can it still win against greater causality?

or even as great as causality is but won't be able to fight Acausality Type 4 without ever being shown the achievement that it can penetrate Acausality Type 4 users?
 
Acausality type 4 still bound by Casualty but not completely. But they still bound by it so it depends on Casualty manipulation potency to hurt them.
 
Acausality Type 4 gives resistance to Causality Manipulation, so unless your Causality Manipulation has proof of going through layers, being layered, or affecting a being that has Aca 4 it would normally be superior in combat.
 
Well acau 4 is not like acau 5 so like what everyone said, causality manipulation can affect acau 4 if it's potent enough it's surely not impossible.
 
Having layers of fate hax or causality hax will not work since acau 4 characters are beyond normal causality system so its resistance is pretty much unconventional (should be equal to immunity to fate/causality hax for those who have no feats to influence outside normal causality system)

Also just because type 5 is powerful doesn't mean type 4 is weak so I have no idea what's the point to put it in comparison
 
Acausality 4 is resistent to causality but not immune.

(Fate manip can affect it..... Just need to be really effective)
 
;-;

(Anyways that aside, causality manipulation can certainly affect acausality 4 it's not impossible, but without the feat of doing so or affecting a good amount of layers or anything like that it should be proven to be impossible to affect one.)
 
Acausality type 4 is unbound by causality, so i think being layered not enough to bypass it, since aca 4 character is outside from causality, and even it greater causality it still only a causality
 
Layers of Causality Manipulation don't matter against Acausality Type 4, unless you have feats of affecting such beings.
 
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