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Actually, this doesn't seem to be 5th or 6th dimension to grant 5d or 6d tier. higher dimension or higher plane of existence alone will not grant any tier, like i said before, require total transcended, uncountable infinite superior
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Complicated Cosmology
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I'm really confused, with the evidence of higher planes of existence, extradimensions, transdimensional Realities and reality being analoged to having layers I don't see how this doesn't support transcendence?
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higher reality, or higher dimension every fictions have them, but don't equadate to higher tier due to the lack of context, not being higher doesn't mean uncountable infinite superior, dimension could sit higher geometrically to the lower one, still just another dimension, not higher tier. same with layer, a layer can sit higher than a lower one doesn't mean higher tier, because geometrically higher exist, similar to a mountain sit higher than land, but doesn't mean uncountable infinite superior
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well, by all mean 5th dimension alone or extra temporal dimension alone won't give higher tier, even if it is like 10 higher dimension scan won't be enough. if getting into tier 1 that easy, then many verse already have that tier. Transcends time is....................nothing, i know a verse that have like 20 statements of transcend time, space-time, multiverse, but still tier 2............
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I just don't get this transcendence argument. Like I feel like the evidence is there, but idk. Can you show me an example of something that would get into the tier? maybe that's why I'm confused.
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Well, it is confuse too, but that the gid of it. even if there is 100 statements of transceding time or space or whatever it is, still didn't give tier 1. I think you can look up at Megami Tensei though
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I just did, I see that they transcend dimensionality all together. Although i wasn't trying to get the verse to outerversal levels.
I did see arguments saying things like "exists outside the universe" in a higher plane of existence.
The Dhe ehmn exists outside on a higher plane of existence as well.
Even lesser gods than them are described as being extradimensional beings which by definition would make them 5D by default. There are even extradimensional realities as well.
Erebus who's a Transdimensional / Extradimensional shadow, is just a piece of the shadow universe.
Artix, the creator of AEverse (Artix Entertainment) has proper knowledge of how dimensions work as well.
by Vs battles definition:
Tier 1: Extradimensional
Characters who can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.Low 1-C: Low Complex Multiverse level
Characters who can affect, create and/or destroy the entirety of spaces whose size corresponds to one to two higher levels of infinity greater than a standard universal model (Low 2-C structures, in plain English.) In terms of "dimensional" scale, this can be equated to 5 and 6-dimensional real coordinate spaces (R ^ 5 to R ^ 6)This should be sufficient evidence.
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Well, that wrong, The Expanse of SMT transcended the regular universe (4D) past, present, and future at the same time, it is uncountably infinite superior.
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Well it's not wrong lol all I said was I saw those arguments. But I'm not arguing for outerversal.
Btw what if a character can create a concept or multiple that exists everywhere and everywhen in the entire omniverse? Past present and future?
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it is more complicated than that, but well i can't change your mind anyway so it is pointless to talk more
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I just don't think it's fair to ignore evidence lol but yeah likewise.
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The evidence is there for 5th dimension. It fits with the very definition in the wiki as well.
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Being 5D doesn't give any tier unless there's proof of significant transcendence (which is what actually matter).
Which scan proves it?
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So that's all I need? A strange site standard but I'll see what I can find.
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ok so couldn't find much but there is this that confirms time is the 4th dimension. Sekt is a 4th dimensional being and has some superiority over the others due to that. Hence how they couldn't tell they've had that conversation 8 time. However, if this isn't enough evidence then I'll just have to concede on the low complex, but we should still get upgraded to 2A.
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So this should be viable for a 2A upgrade and HDE yes?
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Also do we have a hax on this site for extra temporal dimensions? Eternal dragon of time is time itself and this would qualify it for HDE for time as well.
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Not sure if you guys are still here. But I finally found the evidence to justify 1-C
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