Alien X’s Existence Erasure

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Noticed Alien X’s most powerful ability lacks a link or citation:

Existence Erasure (Stated by Servantis that with a Celestialsapien form, Ben could one day wipe everything out of existence)

For this CRT I’m be requesting the supporters of the Verse who added this to provide the proof, then it can be added to the page.

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah, and also that could mean just about anything.

 

[Bernkastelll]

''Wipe out all of the existence'' are we sure that this is EE? I mean, that kind of statement can be about just destroying it without being EE

 

[Confluctor]

exactly what I am thinking.

 

[Arcker123]

Feel like this should be a CRT for the whole page given that the majority of his abilities have no justification at all.

 

[Greenshifter]

The ability itself was already discussed less than a month ago, pretty sure the scan is in that thread as well.

Feel like this should be a CRT for the whole page given that the majority of his abilities have no justification at all.

I wouldn't mind that.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

The ability itself was already discussed less than a month ago, pretty sure the scan is in that thread as well.

Y’know the site is meant to primarily index information on the character profiles rather than in threads, right?

 

[Greenshifter]

Y’know the site is meant to primarily index information on the character profiles rather than in threads, right?

What is a thread where a specific ability on a character's page gets discussed called again?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

What is a thread where a specific ability on a character's page gets discussed called again?

Content Revision to potentially remove it or Questions & Answers to simply question it, whichever I choose.

Although imma follow the advice of that guy above and revise the whole P&A to cite all the abilities without justification, so CRT it is

 

[Greenshifter]

Content Revision

That should answer your question then.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

That should answer your question then.

If you’re suggesting I simply seek the CRT where it was discussed and move on afterwards you missed the point of this thread. I want to add it to the profile.

 

[Greenshifter]

Alien X (Canon, Classic)/Midtop

Alien X is an alien within Ben Tennyson's Omnitrix created by a super genius Azmuth and is a sample from Celestialsapiens DNA. Celestialsapiens are born and live in the Forge of Creation totally out of sync with time and outside of the multiverse. The Forge of Creation is only accessible through...

character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com

Anyways ask Midtop for permission to copy everything from his page.

 

[Greenshifter]

I want to add it to the profile.

Yup, I told you to get the scan from that CRT. But I saved you the trouble and gave you an entire page full of citations. You're welcome.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Here’s the statement in question.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Links for all of Alien X’s abilities except the ones I’d need to put more effort into getting

Spoiler: Wall of text

• Size Manipulation (Other Celestialsapiens can easily grow to the size of a galaxy) - Here (?)
• Flight (Easily flies across interplanetary distances) - Shown here
• Reality Warping (Easily recreated the universe with a simple thought) - See AP section
• Immortality (Types 1 and 3) - I’ll have to find a clip but Celestialsapiens are presumably ageless since they stand around debating for thousands of years
• Regeneration (Mid-High) - The Galactic Gladiator is sucked into a vortex, unraveled, and comes out the other end of the vortex disintegrated into white particle-like thingies. He is shown to quickly reform in the next scene afterwards, albeit defeated and apparently exhausted
• Forcefield Creation - Here
• Telekinesis - Here
• Duplication - Here
• Multiple Selves (Type 1) - Here. This is AX’s whole gimmick.
• Space-Time Manipulation - Here and Here
• Mind Manipulation - here
• Pocket Reality Manipulation (Serena, Bellicus and Ben Tennyson hold absolute control inside Alien X's body, which is a pocket universe that contains many galaxies) - Shown here and here
• Self-Sustenance (Types 1) - Space Survivability is shown is some gifs above
• Creation - See AP
• Black Hole Creation - here

Should be removed​

• Invulnerability (Alien X is simply very durable)
• Existence Erasure? (The justification is apparently contentious)
• Type 3 Self-Sustenance (Despite Celestialsapiens being able to stand in place for eons the Galactic Gladiator was shown tired after battling Alien X)

???​

No clue where these powers come from:

• Body Control
• Life Manipulation
• Information Manipulation (Seriously what?)
• Law Manipulation
• Cosmic Awareness, Teleportation, Summoning, Portal Creation - I’m sure these are easy to prove but I’m not finishing Omniverse
• Nigh-Omniscience (Recreated the entire universe in exact detail, but with a few minor changes ex: the Mr. Smoothy logo and Ben wearing a new jacket) - Is this justification really enough for near omniscience?
• Dimensional Travel
• Fire Manipulation

Here’s the statement in question.

Huh. That’s really sus

 

[Bernkastelll]

Should be removed​

• Type 3 Self-Sustenance (Despite Celestialsapiens being able to stand in place for eons the Galactic Gladiator was shown tired after battling Alien X)

​

I didnt understood why this need to be removed?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I didnt understood why this need to be removed?

Type 3: Restful Self-Sustenance: The ability to continue acting forever without rest or need for sleep. These users of this ability require no rest and do not run out of energy, or even feel tired. - Self-Sustenance page

Galactic Gladiator getting tired is a dealbreaker

 

[Bernkastelll]

Galactic Gladiator getting tired is a dealbreaker

I understand that, but it's pretty common to characters that comes from a fighting verse or something becoming tired while fighting despite not needing to rest, the authors usually makes it to give more impact to the scenes, but i understand if it need to be removed

 

[ElixirBlue]

Is this a good time to mention removing invulnerability from Alien X? It’s unsupported and the reasoning I heard he has it because he tanked something but it’s not mention as a power.

 

[DemonicDude]

Flashbacks of me discussing this few weeks back in the discord

 

[Greenshifter]

Should be removed​

• Invulnerability (Alien X is simply very durable)
• Existence Erasure? (The justification is apparently contentious)
• Type 3 Self-Sustenance (Despite Celestialsapiens being able to stand in place for eons the Galactic Gladiator was shown tired after battling Alien X)

Correct he’s just very durable and he doesn’t flinch.

EE can get it’s own thread for the 5th time if people want to yeet it. For now imma pull a good old “this was discussed before” and move on so we can get something useful done.

GG is indecisive in that moment, not tired, that’s it. That was Ben’s plan.

???​

No clue where these powers come from:

• Body Control
• Life Manipulation
• Information Manipulation (Seriously what?)
• Law Manipulation
• Cosmic Awareness, Teleportation, Summoning, Portal Creation - I’m sure these are easy to prove but I’m not finishing Omniverse
• Nigh-Omniscience (Recreated the entire universe in exact detail, but with a few minor changes ex: the Mr. Smoothy logo and Ben wearing a new jacket) - Is this justification really enough for near omniscience?
• Dimensional Travel
• Fire Manipulation

GG vs Eye Guy

Mana WoG, mana WoG, mana WoG. Ask Blanco. Pretty sure at least 1 of those powers needs to go, I’m guessing it’s law even though that was most recently added.

Cosmic Awareness is Ben seeing Pluto blow up for instance and Serena sending everyone in the universe dying.

Teleportation comes from GG and Atomic-X (maybe check the other Celestialsapien pages as well)

Starbeard summoned GG

The Celestialsapiens created a portal to earth in the beginning of the trial episode.

Yes that’s more than enough for nigh-omniscience.

Eh dimensional travel comes from the summoning and the portal creation.

Bellicus was gonna put Ben on fire for a thousand years in the Forge of Creation episode.

Also pseudo-black hole manipulation also comes from Atomic-X iirc.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also yeet the many galaxies thing from the pocket dimension, that thing is room-sized and you can’t prove otherwise.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

EE can get it’s own thread for the 5th time if people want to yeet it. For now imma pull a good old “this was discussed before” and move on so we can get something useful done.

Guess it’ll be discussed again then, because I’m not saving it for another thread

 

[DemonicDude]

Also pseudo-black hole manipulation also comes from Atomic-X iirc.

You mean....Energy Spheres

 

[Greenshifter]

Guess it’ll be discussed again then, because I’m not saving it for another thread

Good. “Wish everything out of existence” means reality warping it out of existence giving AX’s power set. If it’s just destroyed it’s still in existence. A vase that gets broken still exists, just in pieces. The only way to get it out of existence in an offensive context (which it is since To’kustars which are known for the destructive capacity were mentioned too) is to erase it. Hence EE. This was self-explanatory when it got accepted and it should still be.

Also at this point imma ask for a discussion rule to be written down to not try and remove AX’s EE given repeated discussions on the topic always come down to the same conclusion.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

Bump

What more needs to be discussed?

 

[Greenshifter]

He probably wants someone to give him the scans kek

@DemonicDude Will you help Mav in his quest of looking for scans in the monstrous number of 5 full episodes where Alien X appears in?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

What more needs to be discussed?

Nothing ig. If this is accepted I can just add the scans to the profile when it’s unlocked

 

[Greenshifter]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/unlisted-alien-x-abilities.58205/

 

[ElixirBlue]

Nothing ig. If this is accepted I can just add the scans to the profile when it’s unlocked

Alright

He probably wants someone to give him the scans kek

@DemonicDude Will you help Mav in his quest of looking for scans in the monstrous number of 5 full episodes where Alien X appears in?

We can wait a bit and then I can unlock the profile.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Adding scans. Just gonna remove invulnerability since the Galactic Gladiator got his hand exploded

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Should be easy enough to replace but Alien X’s universe creation clip got copyright striked
https://media.**********.net/attachments/852867462680281141/947923416219025428/IMG_3542.png

 

[Confluctor]

Video doesn't work. Probably region locked

 

[DemonicDude]

He probably wants someone to give him the scans kek

@DemonicDude Will you help Mav in his quest of looking for scans in the monstrous number of 5 full episodes where Alien X appears in?

Okay what clip do you need ? I'll give ya that tomorrow.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

No clue where these powers come from:

• Body Control
• Life Manipulation
• Information Manipulation (Seriously what?)
• Law Manipulation
• Cosmic Awareness, Teleportation, Summoning, Portal Creation - I’m sure these are easy to prove but I’m not finishing Omniverse
• Nigh-Omniscience (Recreated the entire universe in exact detail, but with a few minor changes ex: the Mr. Smoothy logo and Ben wearing a new jacket) - Is this justification really enough for near omniscience?
• Dimensional Travel
• Fire Manipulation

Body control and Teleportation : see here at 0:34

Life manipulation and information manipulation and law manipulation : comes from WoG statements

Cosmic awareness : celestialsapiens were aware about Alien x universe creation

portal creation :

Dimensional Travel : Celestialsapiens can travel to the forge of creation, a dimension that nobody has access to except of professor paradox (who's main ability is Dimensiononal travel and time travel ) and those with the map of infinity

Fire Manipulation : no evidence for that and it should be removed

And the "existence erasure should be removed" meme should stop as this was discussed many times and nothing is going to change

 

[Greenshifter]

Fire Manipulation : no evidence for that and it should be removed

There is, Bellicus was gonna put Ben on fire.

Also Mav needs clips not pictures.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Also Mav needs clips not pictures.

Why not use Snagit and make gifs to use?

 

[ElixirBlue]

Adding scans. Just gonna remove invulnerability since the Galactic Gladiator got his hand exploded

Then, if everyone is in agreement, would it be fine to unlock his profile now?

 

[sanicspood]

alien x's page is so SHITTTTTTTT