Big Alien X Downgrade

[Lort15]

Why Alien X Could Be Defeated by Mana​

1. Alien X’s Weakness: Decision-Making Delay
Alien X’s greatest limitation is internal conflict. He is composed of three personalities (Serena, Bellicus, and the user — usually Ben), who must unanimously agree before taking action. This means that even though Alien X has god-like powers, he can be immobilized if his personalities can’t agree.


Mana-based characters, like Gwen or Charmcaster, can exploit this delay. If they act quickly before Alien X’s personalities reach consensus, they could land a powerful blow, trap him, or even banish him using ancient magical rites or artifacts.

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2. Magic is Fundamentally Different from Physics
Alien X can control time, space, and reality — but his powers are grounded in Celestialsapien science. Magic, as presented in Ben 10, operates on a completely different wavelength, outside of traditional physical laws.

• Mana could disrupt Alien X’s reality manipulation, especially if it's powered by ancient or multidimensional sources.
• Gwen’s Anodite heritage gives her an intuitive grasp of mana that transcends standard magical limitations, potentially letting her cast spells that bypass Alien X's defenses.

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3. Enchanted Artifacts or Spells Can Restrain Cosmic Beings
In the Ben 10 universe, certain magical artifacts (like the Archamada Book of Spells or the Staff of Ages) have shown power rivaling cosmic beings.

• If Gwen or Charmcaster had access to such a relic, she could seal, trap, or redirect Alien X’s powers.
• For example, a spell that freezes decision-making entities or forces consensus could render Alien X inactive.

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4. Celestialsapiens Might Be Vulnerable to Dimensional Magic
Some spells target not just physical form but the essence or soul of a being. Since Alien X exists across dimensions, certain mana-infused spells could target his essence, disrupting him in ways brute force cannot.

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Conclusion:​

While Alien X is virtually unstoppable in raw power, his weaknesses lie in internal conflict, non-magical nature, and reliance on consensus. Mana — especially from powerful sources or wielders like Gwen or ancient magical relics — could exploit these flaws, especially with the element of surprise, speed, or the right spell.

Yeah so since every sapient being can use mana Alien x should be downgraded to 4-B

 

[Hellformer]

Ez agree FRA

 

[DemonicDude]

if there is a spell that can cancel his omnipotence. Then they're also might be a spell that can give him omnipotence.
Wow Mana >>>> Celestialsapiens

 

[MrLuk2000]

Disagree

In a total cannon crossover meme Alien X's mere presence scared the shit out of The One Above All

 

[Tank1418]

PoV:When I get too bored

 

[Lort15]

Disagree

In a total cannon crossover meme Alien X's mere presence scared the shit out of The One Above All

after all its just means both are 4-B

 

[Lort15]

PoV:When I get too bored

imagine not downgrading ben 10 while bored

Downgrading Ben 10 because I'm bored

Large Size (Type 10; Contumelias are 5th dimensional beings) This does not work because Type 10 is only for beings that are infinitely bigger than any 4D construct due to them being Higher-Dimensional. However, they clearly aren't Multiverse sized. Yes, they mention that 3D beings cannot...

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[Lort15]

bump B)

 

[Tank1418]

imagine not downgrading ben 10 while bored

Downgrading Ben 10 because I'm bored

Large Size (Type 10; Contumelias are 5th dimensional beings) This does not work because Type 10 is only for beings that are infinitely bigger than any 4D construct due to them being Higher-Dimensional. However, they clearly aren't Multiverse sized. Yes, they mention that 3D beings cannot...

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alien x will go back to 3A

 

[Reiner04]

So true so true. Agreed.

 

[Lort15]

alien x will go back to 3A

still wanked lets make it dam level for restoring a dam

 

[Lort15]

bump

 

[Okstrike]

My stupid ahh actually put my time into refuting this AI slop only to realize halfway through that this is a joke thread

 

[Noneless21]

rookie mistake

 

[Lort15]

My stupid ahh actually put my time into refuting this AI slop only to realize halfway through that this is a joke thread

 

[Tank1418]

Bump

 

[MrTayman616]

Bump

Bro why

 

[Reiner04]

Bump

 

[MrTayman616]

Hope your exams are going well

 

[Osemere]

1-A Alien X through r>f when

 

[Tank1418]

Bro why

idk

 

[Tank1418]

chillll

 

[Lort15]

Bro why

why not

 

[Reiner04]

Hope your exams are going well

 

[MrLuk2000]

1-A Alien X through r>f when

1-A is such a downplay. He is at least High 1-A for making The One Above All shit himself when he entered the room

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Can you prove this wog is valid and established in series? The personality conflict is true though but the rest you haven't provided any evidence especially considering alien x doesn't apply to physics either. They're stated to be outside of space and time as well inhabit a realm outside of time (stated in series). They're also literally stated to transcend the physical plane itself so in the end I disagree

 

[Lort15]

Can you prove this wog is valid and established in series? The personality conflict is true though but the rest you haven't provided any evidence especially considering alien x doesn't apply to physics either. They're stated to be outside of space and time as well inhabit a realm outside of time (stated in series). They're also literally stated to transcend the physical plane itself so in the end I disagree

Are we deadass

 

[AThe1412]

Can you prove this wog is valid and established in series? The personality conflict is true though but the rest you haven't provided any evidence especially considering alien x doesn't apply to physics either. They're stated to be outside of space and time as well inhabit a realm outside of time (stated in series). They're also literally stated to transcend the physical plane itself so in the end I disagree

Bro, check which forum you're in.

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Bro, check which forum you're in.

I am so dumb

 

[Lort15]

Bump

 

[Tank1418]

Bump

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Why Alien X Could Be Defeated by Mana​

1. Alien X’s Weakness: Decision-Making Delay
Alien X’s greatest limitation is internal conflict. He is composed of three personalities (Serena, Bellicus, and the user — usually Ben), who must unanimously agree before taking action. This means that even though Alien X has god-like powers, he can be immobilized if his personalities can’t agree.


Mana-based characters, like Gwen or Charmcaster, can exploit this delay. If they act quickly before Alien X’s personalities reach consensus, they could land a powerful blow, trap him, or even banish him using ancient magical rites or artifacts.

---

2. Magic is Fundamentally Different from Physics
Alien X can control time, space, and reality — but his powers are grounded in Celestialsapien science. Magic, as presented in Ben 10, operates on a completely different wavelength, outside of traditional physical laws.

• Mana could disrupt Alien X’s reality manipulation, especially if it's powered by ancient or multidimensional sources.
• Gwen’s Anodite heritage gives her an intuitive grasp of mana that transcends standard magical limitations, potentially letting her cast spells that bypass Alien X's defenses.

---

3. Enchanted Artifacts or Spells Can Restrain Cosmic Beings
In the Ben 10 universe, certain magical artifacts (like the Archamada Book of Spells or the Staff of Ages) have shown power rivaling cosmic beings.

• If Gwen or Charmcaster had access to such a relic, she could seal, trap, or redirect Alien X’s powers.
• For example, a spell that freezes decision-making entities or forces consensus could render Alien X inactive.

---

4. Celestialsapiens Might Be Vulnerable to Dimensional Magic
Some spells target not just physical form but the essence or soul of a being. Since Alien X exists across dimensions, certain mana-infused spells could target his essence, disrupting him in ways brute force cannot.

---

Conclusion:​

While Alien X is virtually unstoppable in raw power, his weaknesses lie in internal conflict, non-magical nature, and reliance on consensus. Mana — especially from powerful sources or wielders like Gwen or ancient magical relics — could exploit these flaws, especially with the element of surprise, speed, or the right spell.

Yeah so since every sapient being can use mana Alien x should be downgraded to 4-B

I agree with FRA, kardeşim

 

[TheTenno07]

Ez agree, the most blatant downgrade of vsbw history

 

[Lort15]

I agree with FRA, kardeşim

Eyw canım gardaşım

 

[Lort15]

bump-*-

 

[Lort15]

Never forget the greatest downgrade ever bump

 

[OrangeFR]

Agree, we need to get staff on this unprecedented downgrade

 

[Lort15]

Agree, we need to get staff on this unprecedented downgrade

We have one already in our favor

So true so true. Agreed.

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[Lort15]

Happy New year and bump