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I'm not allowed to say characters scale to a higher AP or speed value than they have on their page, or say they have an ability they don't, but there's no rule against using narrative evidence.

It's likely Obito used Izanagi there as the piece of clothing that had been set on fire was completely fine afterwards.
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Well I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to "join their revisions," but I do comment on the revisions when they happen. I started like a 6 page discussion about Minato's AP scaling that brought him from "At least 7-B" to "At least 7-B, possibly High 7-A."

There isn't an official CRT queue, but the staff needs to accept a revision for it to be applied, which they're unlikely to do at this time.

That right Obito used Izanagi there. He only showed 1 Eye all the time due to mask. If I remember Konan used a paper explosive for 5minutes and ended up destroying his mask, It showed that he still have extra pair eyes. Its probably that the hidden thing he hid from Itachi. He has a spare of Sharingan just like Danzo.

But I think that Kamui would be useless. after all, Itachi Sharingan can see through body parts chakra. Remember where Itachi cast genjutsu to naruto, without Naruto looking at his eyes?

Tobi almost died to Konan without that Izanagi. He only became powerful after Obtaining Rinnengan.
 
Kakashi had a Sharingan aswell, could see through body parts chakra, yet needed to use his Kamui to bypass Obito's Kamui and still he had help of Naruto

Minato who's much faster than Itachi (Sub Rel Vs MHS+) had to use the level 2 of his Space-Time Ninjutsu in order to bypass Kamui's activation from a younger Obito

Yet for some reason "it will not be a problem for Itachi", and yes, Obito could've used Izanagi there but we don't have solid proof, Kamui was his only weapon back then and Izanagi wasn't introduced yet, so I strongly believe it wasn't the key for his escape. However yes, if it was Izanagi, Itachi can kill him on a 2nd try

Konan has a Higher Attack Potency than Itachi and had prior knowledge of his ability, plus her paper jutsu is perfect to avoid Kamui's time limit, the fact that she could harm Obito doesn't make someone like Itachi capable of the same
 
Kakashi had a Sharingan aswell, could see through body parts chakra, yet needed to use his Kamui to bypass Obito's Kamui and still he had help of Naruto

Minato who's much faster than Itachi (Sub Rel Vs MHS+) had to use the level 2 of his Space-Time Ninjutsu in order to bypass Kamui's activation from a younger Obito

Yet for some reason "it will not be a problem for Itachi", and yes, Obito could've used Izanagi there but we don't have solid proof, Kamui was his only weapon back then and Izanagi wasn't introduced yet, so I strongly believe it wasn't the key for his escape. However yes, if it was Izanagi, Itachi can kill him on a 2nd try

Konan has a Higher Attack Potency than Itachi and had prior knowledge of his ability, plus her paper jutsu is perfect to avoid Kamui's time limit, the fact that she could harm Obito doesn't make someone like Itachi capable of the same
Rinnegan Obito is far superior to OM Obito.

Already responded to that.

Solid proof is his shoulder not being burned in the slightest.

Again, he has hax that ignores durability.
 
Rinnegan Obito is far superior to OM Obito.

Already responded to that.

Solid proof is his shoulder not being burned in the slightest.

Again, he has hax that ignores durability.
I'm aware, and so is KCM Naruto and War Arc Kakashi in relation to Itachi, both are High 7-A and both are Sub Relativistic, they were around equal to Obito at that point and had massive problems with the Kamui

I know, but non profile stuff is useless here, I don't bother with other votes, they are based on non profile scaling, one single post on VS Thread Removal takes care of that, if needed

That's actually interesting, we know it hit him at first, so not having single damage puts us in Izanagi's direction

That wasn't my point, they quoted Konan, I showed why she was capable of doing what she did and her scaling + her jutsu + her prior knowledge

Considering Obito only has one spare eye as far as we know, I actually vote Itachi now. He has now one way to bypass Kamui, which is Amaterasu, and even sick he can cast it two or three times if Obito saves himself with Izanagi or manages to activate Kamui in time, but as we saw against Sasuke, he has problems with its speed and that's unlikely to happen
 
I'm aware, and so is KCM Naruto and War Arc Kakashi in relation to Itachi, both are High 7-A and both are Sub Relativistic, they were around equal to Obito at that point and had massive problems with the Kamui

I know, but non profile stuff is useless here, I don't bother with other votes, they are based on non profile scaling, one single post on VS Thread Removal takes care of that, if needed

That's actually interesting, we know it hit him at first, so not having single damage puts us in Izanagi's direction

That wasn't my point, they quoted Konan, I showed why she was capable of doing what she did and her scaling + her jutsu + her prior knowledge

Considering Obito only has one spare eye as far as we know, I actually vote Itachi now. He has now one way to bypass Kamui, which is Amaterasu, and even sick he can cast it two or three times if Obito saves himself with Izanagi or manages to activate Kamui in time, but as we saw against Sasuke, he has problems with its speed and that's unlikely to happen
They're not really equal, Obito consistently demonstrated physical superiority.

I wasn't talking about non profile scaling, but rather Itachi's different arsenal.

Ya

Sure

He wasn't trying to kill Sasuke.
 
Oh no, I was talking about when he approached Sasuke and Itachi's Amaterasu triggered in order to avoid him telling the truth. Obito showed how him at that time wouldn't be able to react to Amaterasu properly, thus it will work on the fight
 
Itachi wins, based on Obito Statement and Comparing Obito and Itachi Abilities.
Itachi has more serious hax than Obito.
Itachi eyes would also be able to see if Obito parts sending his body parts through kamui. As Kakashi saw that trick for the first time when Obito used Kamui infront of him. I think Itachi would also be able to see through Obito Kamui.
 
I'm aware, and so is KCM Naruto and War Arc Kakashi in relation to Itachi, both are High 7-A and both are Sub Relativistic, they were around equal to Obito at that point and had massive problems with the Kamui

I know, but non profile stuff is useless here, I don't bother with other votes, they are based on non profile scaling, one single post on VS Thread Removal takes care of that, if needed

That's actually interesting, we know it hit him at first, so not having single damage puts us in Izanagi's direction

That wasn't my point, they quoted Konan, I showed why she was capable of doing what she did and her scaling + her jutsu + her prior knowledge

Considering Obito only has one spare eye as far as we know, I actually vote Itachi now. He has now one way to bypass Kamui, which is Amaterasu, and even sick he can cast it two or three times if Obito saves himself with Izanagi or manages to activate Kamui in time, but as we saw against Sasuke, he has problems with its speed and that's unlikely to happen
Lightning changed their vote to Itachi, so this is actually in grace now. Although I'm a bit unsure about what version of Itachi should be added to the profile. Part 1 or 2?
 
Upon thinking about it, this should probably be added to Part 2 Itachi since that's the version portrayed as sick. So yeah it can be added.
 
I think I'm going to have to go with Itachi. GokuSparkle presented a very good argument in favor of him: Obito was clearly very cautious and fearful towards Itachi, almost as if he was a bigger threat than Nagato. It might just have been for his intelligence, but I'm inclined to believe he was referring to his abilities as well. Though Obito has the Kamui, I believe Itachi is smart enough to figure out the mechanics of how it works, and he could use the Amaterasu. Obito's only defense against that would be Inzanagi, but he can only use that once, while Itachi can use the Amaterasu at least two to three times. Not only that, but he has the Tsukuyomi, and I'm not sure Obito is skilled enough in genjutsu and the Sharingan to be able to dispel it.
 
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