Diego (jojo) vs naruto

[Aresia]

show movement speed for diego
and how he can hurt naruto

 

[StekFence]

This is a complete mismatch. Au Diego can’t hurt any naruto, at all. And, narutos literally never gonna touch au diego due to twau being mftl+ While naruto ranges from supersonic to ft. And I mean, I guess eventually diego au will tire due to only having peak human stamina while narutos is able to let him fight for days. Then any naruto one shots. On the other hand, there’s Scary monsters Diego who stomps naruto through being mftl and having the ability to turn people into lamps.

 

[Nierre]

....

 

[StekFence]

I gotta ask, you did know these guys have profiles right?

 

[TauanVictor]

What are the conditions of a "mismatch"? I remember a matchup where both sides had wincons and was considered "mismatch" by the derailment. Are there conditions or is it open?

 

[StekFence]

What are the conditions of a "mismatch"? I remember a matchup where both sides had wincons and was considered "mismatch" by the derailment. Are there conditions or is it open?

well basically, Naruto would beat Diego Au through stamina. au is not strong enough to hurt him, but his stand is so much faster, that none of narutos attacks would have get through until au is exhausted, then naruto one shots. But normal Diego stomps because he is so fast compared to naruto, that he would quickly realize that his attacks are doing nothing, and then switch to his hax. it basically doesn’t matter which Diego or naruto is used. It would be a one sided fight.

 

[Aresia]

This is a complete mismatch. Au Diego can’t hurt any naruto, at all. And, narutos literally never gonna touch au diego due to twau being mftl+ While naruto ranges from supersonic to ft. And I mean, I guess eventually diego au will tire due to only having peak human stamina while narutos is able to let him fight for days. Then any naruto one shots. On the other hand, there’s Scary monsters Diego who stomps naruto through being mftl and having the ability to turn people into lamps.

Can you prove his movement speed to me? And doesn’t diego need to hurt naruto to turn him into a dinosaur?

 

[Chariot190]

Can you prove his movement speed to me? And doesn’t diego need to hurt naruto to turn him into a dinosaur?

Diego by the end is weird but he just needs to get you "infected" somehow, doesn't need to be via wounds though as he did so to several guards via contact while wearing gloves and without actually cutting or anything, just a soft touch was enough.


And Diego's movement speed, not combat or reaction is still decent, definitely superhuman, can casually outpace a train and dodge bullets, should scale to his dinos which have some potential mach movement feats. He himself might also have some but we need calcs.
Combat and the like speed is obviously way faster of course. But yeah no, this is huge mismatch that will never work no matter how you go about it as outlined above.

 

[Aresia]

Diego by the end is weird but he just needs to get you "infected" somehow, doesn't need to be via wounds though as he did so to several guards via contact while wearing gloves and without actually cutting or anything, just a soft touch was enough.


And Diego's movement speed, not combat or reaction is still decent, definitely superhuman, can casually outpace a train and dodge bullets, should scale to his dinos which have some potential mach movement feats. He himself might also have some but we need calcs.
Combat and the like speed is obviously way faster of course. But yeah no, this is huge mismatch that will never work no matter how you go about it as outlined above.

ok thanks one last question, how is he going to touch naruto if he only has superhuman speed?

 

[StekFence]

well, his combat speed is mftl+ and his reaction speed is also that. Therefore, any projectiles Thrown at him will not hit, and so naruto would be forced into hth if he didn’t start with that. And thus naruto will be lamped.

ok thanks one last question, how is he going to touch naruto if he only has superhuman speed?

 

[StekFence]

As for why it’s a scaling chain. Twau speed = tw speed For this. Twau is comparable to ta4 who is comparable to d4c who is slower then scary monsters. Scary Monsters is likely the fastest canon jojo char rn. Except for pucci.

 

[Chariot190]

What? I just said he didn't have only superhuman speed? He has at least superhuman long distance movement speed. Short burst or combat/reaction speed is far, far higher, atm it's MFTL, that won't stay probably unless some solid statements are found, but even after future plans he's still going to be extremely fast for combat/reactions, not to that extent based on a lack of feats/scaling but none the less.

Scary Monsters is likely the fastest canon jojo char rn

He ain't, though he's definitely up there. It's a bit *****, mostly because Part 7, speed wise is an inconsistent mess (We no shit, have canonical circular scaling chains and characters blitzing each other back and forth in the same ******* arcs, it's honestly a pain in the ass, some things are definitely solid but some things aren't, ironically most of the hard parts involve Diego).

 

[Aresia]

So

well, his combat speed is mftl+ and his reaction speed is also that. Therefore, any projectiles Thrown at him will not hit, and so naruto would be forced into hth if he didn’t start with that. And thus naruto will be lamped.

basically when naruto tries to punch diego he will get lamped by diego? Also what do you mean by lamped xD isn’t it a dinosaur. And what is hth that’s my final question. Thanks for help

 

[StekFence]

So

basically when naruto tries to punch diego he will get lamped by diego? Also what do you mean by lamped xD isn’t it a dinosaur. And what is hth that’s my final question. Thanks for help

Ok so basically, Diego can turn people into dinaosaur themed lamps. They don’t light up. And he he can do it through touch, with a glove on. Hth is Hand to hand, or just normal fighting.

 

[Aresia]

Ok so basically, Diego can turn people into dinaosaur themed lamps. They don’t light up. And he he can do it through touch, with a glove on. Hth is Hand to hand, or just normal fighting.

ok thanks so when naruto goes for a punch he gets lamped right away by the stand right?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

As for why it’s a scaling chain. Twau speed = tw speed For this. Twau is comparable to ta4 who is comparable to d4c who is slower then scary monsters. Scary Monsters is likely the fastest canon jojo char rn. Except for pucci.

why the hell is the world scaled to part 3's dio?

 

[StekFence]

why the hell is the world scaled to part 3's dio?

I dunno

 

[StekFence]

I mean, I guess it’s cos same appearance, same ability. Same stand. But I’ve also heard the sbrverse profiles getting revamped.

 

[Chariot190]

Leave it be for now, we'll deal with that when we have enough calcs to work with, as I mentioned, eventually he might take a dip in speed. But we can't exactly do anything without a sufficient amount of calcs and feats evaluated, atm we only have like 4 speed feats approximated for Part 7 and a handful more we still need to calc.

 

[StekFence]

Alr. I like ur pfp btw.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Alr. I like ur pfp btw.

Yeah, that design looks better
…..at the expense of being silver

 

[Aresia]

The nose on taht duck looks like a banana, nvm

 

[Thelastmlg]

If he has only superhuman speed over long distances, naruto can nuke him, doesn't matter if you can see the attack coming forever if you can't outrun it

 

[Aresia]

What? I just said he didn't have only superhuman speed? He has at least superhuman long distance movement speed. Short burst or combat/reaction speed is far, far higher, atm it's MFTL, that won't stay probably unless some solid statements are found, but even after future plans he's still going to be extremely fast for combat/reactions, not to that extent based on a lack of feats/scaling but none the less.



He ain't, though he's definitely up there. It's a bit *****, mostly because Part 7, speed wise is an inconsistent mess (We no shit, have canonical circular scaling chains and characters blitzing each other back and forth in the same ******* arcs, it's honestly a pain in the ass, some things are definitely solid but some things aren't, ironically most of the hard parts involve Diego).

How did he die by a train

 

[Aresia]

Alr. I like ur pfp btw.

How did diego get killed by a train if he has mftl reactions and combat speed

 

[M3X_2.0]

Because he doesn't have MFTL reactions and combat speed. SBRverse profiles are outdated. I'm pretty sure the only MFTL Stands in SBR are TW, ACT 4 and maybe Ball Breaker

 

[ZillertheBucko]

How did diego get killed by a train if he has mftl reactions and combat speed

idk man trains are big enough to where it'd required travel speed, not combat
but idk the context of the scene so

 

[Chariot190]

If he has only superhuman speed over long distances, naruto can nuke him, doesn't matter if you can see the attack coming forever if you can't outrun it

What is Short burst speed.

Unless they start like kms apart, Diego can cover quite a hefty distance in a burst. He just ain't running a marathon at ludicrous speeds or for a prolonged time.

How did diego get killed by a train if he has mftl reactions and combat speed

Because he was in freefall and can't fly? And Funny grabbed him and dragged him under it? That has nothing to do with speed, if I grabbed you and you had like mach 400 reactions but I dragged you into the path of a bullet preventing your escape, bullets gonna hit ya even if ya could normally otherwise dodge.

 

[StekFence]

Because he doesn't have MFTL reactions and combat speed. SBRverse profiles are outdated. I'm pretty sure the only MFTL Stands in SBR are TW, ACT 4 and maybe Ball Breaker

If u don’t mind me asking, why doesn’t funny and og diego scale to them anymore

 

[M3X_2.0]

Because D4C was stomped by ACT 4 and Diego has no feats.

 

[StekFence]

Alr

 

[Thelastmlg]

I mean, funny and diego's profile still claims they scale to act 4, are we talking ahout a finished downgrade thread?

 

[M3X_2.0]

We haven't touched SBRverse yet. We still need to create the Part 1-6 LS Thread.