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Yamamoto CRT?

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Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryusai

Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto (山やま本もと 元げん柳りゅう斎さい 重しげ國くに, Yamamoto Genryūsai Shigekuni?) was the captain of the Gotei 13's 1st Division and the most powerful Shinigami within Soul Society. Venerated for his power, skill, and wisdom, his word was the ultimate letter of the law in Soul Society...
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(His Bankai will passively destroy Soul Society

isnt this Universal? As we currently threats the Soul Society as an Universe
 
Bernkastelll said:
then why Yhwach have 3-A due being able to destroy Soul Society but not Yamamoto?
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Because it's easier to prove that the God Tier of the verse at the end of the series can do a 3-A+ feat than it is Yamamoto who has quite a few characters scaling to him at this point.

And Yhwach has much more evidence for being 3-A+ than Yamamoto does
 
Purgy said:
Because it's easier to prove that the God Tier of the verse at the end of the series can do a 3-A+ feat than it is Yamamoto who has quite a few characters scaling to him at this point.
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Who scales to Yamamoto Bankai and which anti-feats he has?
 
This would suggest his flames would "eventually" reach Universel in range which seems unlikely and a reach to assume they were referring to the entire universe but that's just my opinion. It would be "environmental destruction" over an unknown period of time even if it was accepted.

How long does it take is flames to spread when using his Bankai anyway?
 
Bernkastelll said:
Who scales to Yamamoto Bankai and which anti-feats he has?
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Well for one, he has no supporting feats anywhere near that level

Base Yhwach scales above him as does all his stronger versions

Ichibe scales above him

Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen scale above him

Royd Lloyd's durability would scale to him

True Shikai Ichigo scales to/above him

Probably some more I'm forgetting
 
Purgy said:
Well for one, he has no supporting feats anywhere near that level

Base Yhwach scales above him as does all his stronger versions

Ichibe scales above him

Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen scale above him

Royd Lloyd's durability would scale to him

True Shikai Ichigo scales to/above him

Probably some more I'm forgetting
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But none of these characters even have anti-feats, they are all God and Top tiers, and Royd LLoyd got cutted in half by Yamamoto, so, he doesnt scales
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
I don't agree with this given I've dabbled in verses that aren't HST but still use the lowest default assumption.
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I never said other verses don't use the lowest default assumption, but the HST does get scrutinized far more than most verses here.
 
Bernkastelll said:
But none of these characters even have anti-feats, they are all God and Top tiers, and Royd LLoyd got cutted in half by Yamamoto, so, he doesnt scales
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It doesn't change the fact that half a dozen High 6-A characters would go up to 3-A from this one feat if it were accepted

As for Royd Lloyd, he was able to withstand Yamamoto's passive heat, the same heat that would have destroyed SS, it's even used on his profile under durability.

Such a huge change in stats for so many characters is going to require a lot more than this.
 
Purgy said:
It doesn't change the fact that half a dozen High 6-A characters would go up to 3-A from this one feat if it were accepted
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They won't, nobody except the characters that u mentioned scales to Yamamoto Bakai power
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As for Royd Lloyd, he was able to withstand Yamamoto's passive heat, the same heat that would have destroyed SS, it's even used on his profile under durability.
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resisting the heat is not the same as being equal to Yamamoto power, his profile is wrong if he is rated like that, it wasnt only the heat that was going to destroy SS, but the spiritual preassure, it having heat or not doesnt matter
 
Ill share my take, using scans:
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All the water in Soul Society is quietly disappearing little by little.
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  1. It will be in a state like ash after burning." The surroundings will be in a state where water continues to evaporate.
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  • The surrounding area becomes a state of continuous evaporation of water.
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Yamamoto：わしも尸魂界も燃え尽きる
Then both I and Soul Society will burn up alongside you

Yamamoto: Now... // Let us put an end to this, Juchabach. // If I do not bring your life to a swift close... // ...I may burn up myself and all of Soul Society.

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www.collinsdictionary.com

To burn something to the ground raze sth to the ground definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

To burn something to the ground raze sth to the ground definition: If you say that a town or building is burnt to the ground or is razed to the ground , you... | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples
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VIZ translates it as "burn to the ground" in which said phrase is used to indicate when something is COMPLETELY destroyed by fire, though from the other context above, its clear "soul society" in this context is referring to the planetoid they are on due to the emphasis on moisture. Keep in mind Kubo can be inconsistent what that term means in story (which is why the wiki had it treated SS can mean the planet and dimension). You can perhaps argue that statements in the novel indicate SS cannot mean the planet, but its clear from even 13 blades the bankai is meant to affect the planetoid only.

now to quote arc7:
something that bothered me with Yamamoto's feat on vsbw
we calc it as surface level destruction + evaporation of all water divided by an assumed timeframe
assumed timeframe is fine thats whatever
but surface level destruction makes no sense, it should be full planetary destruction + water evaporation divided by a timeframe
3 alternate translations say he will burn all of SS/burn SS to ashes/burn up SS, idk about yall but burning ALL of SS is more than just surface level

Bankai Yama's calc needs an update to planetary + water evap / timeframe
it could yield moon level
 
Purgy said:
I never said other verses don't use the lowest default assumption, but the HST does get scrutinized far more than most verses here.
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That's because their more popular, many verses don't get attention like they do and along with the drama. Regardless, I'll stop talking about this since it's derailing the threads original topic.
 
We should treat his feat as an outlier and maintain consistency with how we treat the realms, imo. Similar with Gremmy, he has a tier 3 feat but it’s an outlier for him.

We currently scale Yama off other feats currently anyhow.
 
I don’t like the idea of treating Soul Society as a universe and a planet. I’d rather have some self-consistency.
 
bro kubo cant even have that consistency.

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we should leave things as is till you have time to translate 13 blades
 
still, no need to remove anything till 13 blades is translated

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it would be useful to translate this, as it also may tie in to his EE as well
 
It’s very clearly referring to planet here. There is no room for logical interpretation that he’s going to burn down a universe in a couple minutes. It mentions moisture evaporating and all.

It’s just a matter of reading between the lines.
 
Yeah I understand why it is assumed to be surface of the planet level due to lowball reasons but it is clearly refering to the planet
 
the main thing yall need is to figure out how fast a battle in bleach is... he said he had to finish it quickly
 
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Cyberblader90 said:
not exactly

stuff on the right might debunk EE
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East is the one with EE right?
残(さん)火(か)の太(た)刀(ち)"東(ひがし)""旭(きよく)日(じつ)刃(じん)"

刃の筋(すじ)に熱の全てを集中させて消し飛ばす。
Sword of the Lingering Flame, "East", "Rising Sun Blade"

Concentrates all of the heat into the tip of the blade to blow away everything without a trace.
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Almost the same as the manga explanation, which is the problem with Bleach databooks, 90% of the info in them are just quoted from the manga.

Lastly, even if by chance the databook said something significantly different, it's still secondary to the manga which pretty much states erasure
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
We should treat his feat as an outlier and maintain consistency with how we treat the realms, imo. Similar with Gremmy, he has a tier 3 feat but it’s an outlier for him.

We currently scale Yama off other feats currently anyhow.
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Was about to summon you.
 
Purgy said:
East is the one with EE right?

Almost the same as the manga explanation, which is the problem with Bleach databooks, 90% of the info in them are just quoted from the manga.

Lastly, even if by chance the databook said something significantly different, it's still secondary to the manga which pretty much states erasure
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can you translate west and north as well
 
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