FTL undertale

[Bernkastelll]

So, napstablook can close the blinds before the flash of light reaches
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[DaReaperMan]

This seems more like a gag then a feat

Also its a massive outlier.

 

[Bernkastelll]

This seems more like a gag then a feat

Also its a massive outlier.

Care to explain? Show where is the gag and why exactly is it an outlier?

 

[DaReaperMan]

why exactly is it an outlier?

Subsonic+ to freaking FTL off of one statement that comes off as a gag to me. Not to mention this would scale to basically EVERYONE. Including Sans whose only possible light speed anything are Gaster Blasters, and they have to be aim dodged. Other monsters don't even have that.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ah shit, here we go again.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also this would invite a lot of KE from attacks and would end up upgrading the entirety of Undertale off of I repeat a SINGLE statement from someone who isn't even a scientist about light.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Gag: it can just be a joke that there was a lot of light and he closed everything to not burn his eyes, but he is just describing it like thay because he is Napsta.

Outlier: the verses feats are all supersonic or less, a single ftl feat is a outlier.

The sheer amount of vagueness and unreliability means this is not usable at all, plus if he could see the light before it reach his house, he could've closed it a distance away, which could be relativistic.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Subsonic+ to freaking FTL

What is the problem? Frisk went up from 9-B to Low 2-C, do u want to remove it as well?

Not to mention this would scale to basically EVERYONE.

Everyone who scales above Napstablook, what is the problem?

off of one statement that comes off as a gag to me

Why is it a gag? care to explain?

Also this would invite a lot of KE from attacks and would end up upgrading the entirety of Undertale

So?

SINGLE statement from someone who isn't even a scientist about light.

How in the hell do u need to be a scientist about light to close a blind before it reaches?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Gag: it can just be a joke that there was a lot of light and he closed everything to not burn his eyes, but he is just describing it like thay because he is Napsta.

He is a ghost, he wont really be affected, and prove that it is a joke

 

[Thelastmlg]

But don't worry reaper man, if this was legit the attacks wouldn't be upgraded without actual mentions of KE

 

[Thelastmlg]

Frisk going from 9-B to low 2-C is a in-verse growth, this is just a random quote.

 

[Thelastmlg]

He is a ghost, he wont really be affected, and prove that it is a joke

The fact that he is describing something so vaguely? And if he was not affected why the **** would he close the stuff at all? Prove that the light is a actual being wanting to enter instead of just a flash outside?

 

[Thelastmlg]

The gag is Napsta treating a flash of light as an actual being wanting to enter and just closing everything, pretty obvious, but if you want we can """assume""" it is as literal as possible.

Still a vague outlier

 

[Bernkastelll]

Frisk going from 9-B to low 2-C is a in-verse growth, this is just a random quote.

Still a jump and even higher, what is the problem? and the subsonic comes from greater dog barking, why would closing a blind before light be any different?

 

[DaReaperMan]

What is the problem? Frisk went up from 9-B to Low 2-C, do u want to remove it as well?

Everyone who scales above Napstablook, what is the problem?

Frisk has an excuse, Napstablook on the other hand has a single statement going from I repeat, Subsonic+ to Faster then Light or Relativistic. Frisk isn't an argument here.

This is a verse, which has for the most part Subsonic to Supersonic feats, why should Light Speed NOT be an outlier again, not only is the feat in question vague as all hell, it is MILLIONS of times above the verses other speed feats.

 

[Bernkastelll]

. Frisk isn't an argument here.

Yes it is, u mentioned attack, gaster blaster, sans, then i can mention Frisk as jumping tiers

 

[Thelastmlg]

Because there is a actual reason for it? Is a growth, thanks to a low 2-C power source.

This is a vague """"feat"""" out of nowhere, where even those faster than Napsta have supersonic feats, would be upgraded to FTL, despite this also being possible to be relativistic or, I dunno, not literal?

 

[Bernkastelll]

why should Light Speed NOT be an outlier again

why would it be if subsonic comes from a bark?

MILLIONS of times above the verses other speed feats.

the only feat rated here iirc is a bark

where even those faster than Napsta have supersonic feats, would be upgraded to FTL

I know, so?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes it is, u mentioned attack, gaster blaster, sans, then i can mention Frisk as jumping tiers

This isn't about tiering. This is about speed. Sans being brought up was as an anti-feat, his Gaster Blasters could be Light speedbut they have to be aim-dodged. Read this page for me.

 

[Thelastmlg]

They are supersonic because of the SOUND of the bark, there is a calc for that, barks spread sound.

So, outlier.

 

[Bernkastelll]

This isn't about tiering. This is about speed.

both are ratings of characters

. Sans being brought up was as an anti-feat, his Gaster Blasters could be Light speedbut they have to be aim-dodged

why is this even a thing? why would it be an anti-feat after all? why is it even mentioned?

They are supersonic because of the SOUND of the bark, there is a calc for that, barks spread sound.

Yeah, there has the bark thing and the light thing, but people somehow only wants the lowest, whatever

 

[DaReaperMan]

both are ratings of characters

why is this even a thing? why would it be an anti-feat after all? why is it even mentioned?

Attack Potency/Durability =/= speed

You claim Napstablook is FTL, I claim Sans has a light speed attack that must be aim-dodged by someone waaaay above Napstablook.

 

[Bernkastelll]

You claim Napstablook is FTL, I claim Sans has a light speed attack that must be aim-dodged by someone waaaay above Napstablook.

Then makes sans scale to FTL due scaling above Napstablook if u have a problem with Sans speed ratings

 

[Thelastmlg]

Best you are getting is a downgrade, not a upgrade.

We have average and superhuman calcs and one subsonic, the superhuman is close to average so that would be more consistent, congrats, downgraded the verse.

I think you are also ignoring how vague and unreliable this entire statement even is.

Also let's drop the faster blaster stuff, those don't meet the criteria for lightspeed lasers anyway

 

[Bernkastelll]

Best you are getting is a downgrade, not a upgrade.

Average speed calc is due characters casually walking, not fighting or whatever

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also why would this feat fit the criteria for light?

 

[Thelastmlg]

And? Still speed, plus the subsonic is given to monsters in general.

And this, if legit, would be a overrall speed feat besides maybe travel because he reacted and closed binds.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Also why would this feat fit the criteria for light?

He calls it a flash of light, should be enough tbh, not much options besides rhay

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also why would this feat fit the criteria for light?

why would it not? it is called as a flash of light, and it doesnt seems nothing that violates a real light, cuz the way that its stated sound like a flash of light from the place or idk

And this, if legit, would be a overrall speed feat besides maybe travel because he reacted and closed binds.

''because he reacted'' then it is FTL reaction

And? Still speed, plus the subsonic is given to monsters in general.

what is even the explanation to the subsonic ratings to them?

 

[DaReaperMan]

I would also like to mention that this isn't calcuable, and wouldn't grant a speed because for all we know Napstablook got some light in his house and closed the blinds to shut it out then.

 

[Bernkastelll]

for all we know Napstablook got some light in his house and closed the blinds to shut it out then.

No, he said ''The light wanted to come, i closed the blinds'', which the context shows that he closed it before the light reaches

 

[Thelastmlg]

1. He reacted to it, decided not to let it enter and then went on to close the binds, see, I grabbed the utter vagueness and turned it into a overrall speed feat.

2. Napstablock: (Shouldnt be to far behind the monsters in snowdin and the waterfall)

Greater dog (notes it as combat speed): (Superior to the other royal guards. Comparable to Frisk who could dodge his barks at these speeds)

Undyne: Supersonic (Should be much faster than every other monster in the underground, including attacks from Greater Dog. Can run faster than Frisk on foot)

Asgore: Supersonic (Effortlessly avoided all of Undyne's attacks when she was a youth, all while refusing to fight back. Fought Frisk who had higher determination than when they faced Undyne)

Toriel: Supersonic (Comparable to Asgore)

Frisk: Supersonic with higher levels of Determination (Can keep up with Asgore)

No mention of reactions only, greater dog has it as combat and that's it

 

[DaReaperMan]

No, he said ''The light wanted to come, i closed the blinds'', which the context shows that he closed it before the light reaches

All right, then we still have Three speed feats far below that. Hence outlier.

 

[Thelastmlg]

No, he said ''The light wanted to come, i closed the blinds'', which the context shows that he closed it before the light reached.

You can't say the context of a feat that didn't even happen on screen, based off a vague ass statement.

Also the fact that it could've been distance away, making this lower than lightspeed.

 

[Bernkastelll]

No mention of reactions only, greater dog has it as combat and that's it

When did I mentioned that the reaction was to it? I said Napstablook and the light feat

 

[Thelastmlg]

We do not give speed ratings for vague events that "sound" like feats, especially those that can easily be replicable IRL if you word it right

 

[Bernkastelll]

All right, then we still have Three speed feats far below that. Hence outlier.

Do u really want to consider characters casually walking in a place to consider as a outlier? even a immeasurable speed can casually walk

 

[Thelastmlg]

When did I mentioned that the reaction was to it? I said Napstablook and the light feat

''because he reacted'' then it is FTL reaction

your words, not mine

 

[Bernkastelll]

We do not give speed ratings for vague events that "sound" like feats, especially those that can easily be replicable IRL if you word it right

Ok, record a video of you closing a blind before a flash of light reaches on it, and notice, u need to see the flash of light first

 

[Bernkastelll]

''because he reacted'' then it is FTL reaction

your words, not mine

Yeah? Napstablook, he reacted to light and act before it reaches, when did i mentioned the other characters?