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So... why are we humoring a random troll again? We have a class T calc and scaling to go off. It all looks fine to me.
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Hela doesnt have T class Lifting strength
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i dont think hes a troll
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We're getting nowhere with this thread
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This is literally his first thread and it's just him calling us liars for our lifting strength ratings... while making an argument about how Mjolnir was made, which doesn't even have anything to do with lifting strength. He's obviously a troll.
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Meh
Calling trolls everyone who disagree with your opition is not good strategy.I posted many arguments
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Do you want to close this??
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IIRC It was stated that Hela has T class cuz she crushed Mjolnir which was forged in the hearth of dying star etc.But EW debunked this statement by showing us how actually they make weapons
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they have no reason to do so.I have proven my arguments here
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1. Hela got her LS for grappling with Thor
2. Your argument doesn't even work anyway, the weapons were forged in the heart of a dying star.
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Giant Man is not even Class T, why are you bringing him up???
Cull Obsidian and Hulk Buster should have their LS downgraded, their best feat is HulkBuster restraining Thanos, but this Thanos was badly weakened + already restrained by a bunch of people
Cull Obsidian and Hulk Buster should have their LS downgraded, their best feat is HulkBuster restraining Thanos, but this Thanos was badly weakened + already restrained by a bunch of people
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We have seen that they cast weapons not forge them.How the hell my argument doesnt work?
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Hela grappled with Thor, who has a Class T calc. If you were actually interested in arguing this, you would've opened with that instead. Instead of, you know, arguing the thing that has nothing to do with the Lifting Strength.
Anyways, I'm keeping this open only because there are actual arguments to be made regarding who Class T relates to.
@Blue I can second the Cull thing. Hell, his hammer was held back by Spider-Man.
Anyways, I'm keeping this open only because there are actual arguments to be made regarding who Class T relates to.
@Blue I can second the Cull thing. Hell, his hammer was held back by Spider-Man.
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Cull obsidian scales to iron man tho
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Why? I don't recall the two ever grappling.
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Thor scales to a Class T calc from Thor. Hela literally overpowers Thor in their fight. So Hela is Class T.
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who is nowhere near T class.Yep
Even War Machine was able to hold back his hand (thanos was weakened but still).Thanos is leagues above Iron man.Iron man is class M at best.Even spiderman was able to briefly restrain his arm on Titan
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I'm pretty he overpowers Tony several times, I need to recheck
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and what?
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That means he is Class T.
War Machine restrained a badly weakened Thanos, Spider-Man needed the help of other characters (Such as Dr. Strange, who is class T), to even come close to restraining him
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And that gives him Class T lifting strength for restraining a Class T character. An uninjured, unimpeded Class T character, unlike War Machine and Spider-man, examples that you cherry picked when they had outside factors helping them.
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Never mind
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Spiderman restrained his whyle he was uninjured too....Also.Whyle he was injured even cap Marvel needed to use her legs to overpower his single arm whyle WM could easely do this(he is stronger than CM now?).I mean that those "restraining" moments are incosistent and we can see that Thanos could easely overpower Iron Man later.Spiderman could also stop Cull's hammer with bare hands,why u dont use this as T class argument for him now?Spiderman could also pull back Cull's arm to prevent killing Iron Man in Endgame.
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Your grammar is pretty bad.
1. Spider-Man could not properly restrain him without the help of other people who have Class T LS.
2. Cull should be downgraded to Class M, which Spider-Man is, you literally brought this idea up a few posts up
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English is not my native language.Sorry
1)Rewatch IW and EG.He did this twice in the MCU.In EG he didnt use anyone's help.
2)Class M is better yes
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Quick question, are you talking about Spider-Man or Iron Man??
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Spiderman.
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Also why is SPiderman class M?He struggled to lift debris and Jet Bridge
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Spider-Man did not restrain Thanos, or any Class T character, at all in endgame.
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1. Which key are you talking about for debris??? Are you talking about the scene in homecoming??
2. Spider-Man changed the direction of the plane, which is Class 50 LS, not class M. This is said on the profiles itself
3. Tech/Bosco suit (The Stark suit used in Homecoming is Tech, Bosco is the suit used in the 3rd act for Far From Home) is Class M due to the suit being able to hold the ferry together.
4. Class M is only for webbing, not physical strength
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Spidey never even interacted with Thanos in Endgame, the hell are you talking about?
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yes his did.In final firgh agains thanoses' army in EG he pulled back Cull's arm and let Giant Man stomp him.
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Oh my bad I mean with Cull
Anyway there is a momnet in IW when Spidey restrained Thanoses' hand without anyones help.Drax also was able to hold back his leg (Iron man holding his hand didnt help Drax to restrain titan's leg)
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Thanos was being put to sleep during that. When he woke up, Spidey got tossed aside like a bag of chips.
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before this
Anyway Iron Man was overpowered by Cull who is M lvl.How the hell he is T class?
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He was never overpowered by Cull. Not in lifting strength, anyways.
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Yeah, Cull overpowered him with AP, Cull is still High 7-A, he is just Class M
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