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LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.
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honestly? Not much to be hopeful for. IF (which is the only hopeful part) this gets accepted then 4-B is probably the only conclusion hereYou are reaaaaaaalllllyyyyyyy hopeful for this aren't ya?
Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.
At least, it seems he no longer wants to be permabannedLuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.
Damn, to think it'd boil over this badNot really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.
Damn for real? Like I get some peeps will simply never get along but I was hoping it'll be an extreme last restort (I didn't even know that actually got implemented when I commented on the RVR).Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.
Edit: they're giving him a warning, but a light one at best, not even a stern one.
^THIS seriously needs to be addressed.There are currently 8 db threads running.
Yes, he brought back those who were erasedWhen Super shenron brought back those erase, he also placed them back onto their universes, sonot wasn't like a restorative do-over either
Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus."MuH BaTle Of GoDS" after seeing 10 pages of the retcon after it. "buT MuH bAtLe Of GoDs" shows SSJ is never shown as 50x SSG only SSB is called that, "MuuUuHh BaTlE oF GoDS!!" BoG doesn't even show SSJ being 50x SSG Lmao
That's SSG power growing in his SSJ form. Now show me SSJ making SSG 50x stronger in BoG, you can't. He can only do that with SSB as shown in RoF.Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.
Ok but bulma and I assume the namek children would die under these conditionsno you need a minimum amount of gravity to become a star or else they’d be what we call “brown dwarfs” or “super-jupiter” type planets. it’s actually impossible for them to be smaller than a red dwarf star unless it’s stated somewhere
and if we assume they’re at least red dwarf stars (doesn’t look like it but eh) then Namek is extremely large by that measure
If he's SSG level in base already, then going SSJ inherently makes him 50 times stronger. What kind of logic is this?That's SSG power growing in his SSJ form. Now show me SSJ making SSG 50x stronger in BoG, you can't. He can only do that with SSB as shown in RoF.
ToP Goku needs SSJ to defeat Buu Saga tiers as his base power got retconned.
Except the SSJ in RoF is SSB and not regular yellow SSJ that multiplies his base by 50x. As going SSJ on SSG power base creates SSB. Since SSB is SSG power + god-ki and regular SSJ is none of that.If he's SSG level in base already, then going SSJ inherently makes him 50 times stronger. What kind of logic is this?
Show me that regular SSJ is 50x SSG power.Still going on about this alleged "retcon?" You're quite literally just wrong on this and are misinterpreting the source material to fit this agenda - and your attempts to enforce this have all been rejected nigh-unanimously.
No, that's a much higher level that's way beyond 50x RoF Goku's base. It's stronger than Super Saiyan 3, for instance, which is a 400x boost off of Goku's base.Except the SSJ in RoF is SSB and not regular yellow SSJ that multiplies his base by 50x. As going SSJ on SSG power base creates SSB. Since SSB is SSG power + god-ki and regular SSJ is none of that.
Bulma surviving means the gravity is basically 1gOk but bulma and I assume the namek children would die under these conditions
I don't think you know what the word retcon means."NooOOo MuHuuH BaTt oFff GoOOds, sO BaSiL aNd BuU HunReDs oF TiMEs StROnGER tHaN SsG gOku!!!!!!"
Akira and Toei would laugh at your if you suggested something so wrong based on misunderstanding.
Fair nuffBulma surviving means the gravity is basically 1g
Which means, if the planet is actually that big, it most likely has a low average density
SSB is described as " going SSJ with the power of SSG" which is 50x. Now if SSB is over 400x SSG than you contradict hat description and it makes no sense and it becomes irrelevant. Since regular SSJ can than be described "Yellow SSJ, going SSJ with the power of SSG".No, that's a much higher level that's way beyond 50x RoF Goku's base. It's stronger than Super Saiyan 3, for instance, which is a 400x boost off of Goku's base.
DBH powerscaling be like:All this talk is why I prefer the power scaling of the video games as opposed to canon DB. It doesn't have to be debated if it something got retconned in the power scaling or not, only that every relevant is Low 1-C with immeasurable speed. MUCH more easier to grasp and accept.
No, because Goku's base form after Battle of Gods has SSG's power but not its divine aspects. So, he can go regular SSJ, but he can also harness divine power to go SSB. Hence why despite absorbing SSG's power, Goku's non-god forms still don't inherently have god ki and can be sensed by other peopleSSB is described as " going SSJ with the power of SSG" which is 50x. Now if SSB is over 400x SSG than that description makes no sense and it becomes irrelevant. Since regular SSJ can than be described "Yellow SSJ, going SSJ with the power of SSG".
DBH powerscaling be like:
Last thing I wanna say before I no longer engage with this: It's getting very tiring hearing this repeatedly complained about. A discussion rule was made on the topic. You tried to overturn it and didn't succeed. Just stop.No, because Goku's base form after Battle of Gods has SSG's power but not its divine aspects. So, he can go regular SSJ, but he can also harness divine power to go SSB. Hence why despite absorbing SSG's power, Goku's non-god forms still don't inherently have god ki and can be sensed by other people
EXACTLY. People can call shit like Heroes fan service until the cows come home but at least it knows what it is and embraces it completely, which makes it so much more easy to discuss and power scale.DBH powerscaling be like:
Yes, and he uses BOTH SSG POWER and god-ki to create SSB as mentioned in the transformation description. We have seen him training to obtain god-ki to create SSB, when he sparred with Vegeta. Goku can't go regular SSJ with SSG power in base, as the anime and movie both call SSB, THE SSJ form. That's why when Frieza asks "Go SSJ" Later Goku goes SSJ and what do we see? It's SSB not yellow SSJ. Finally god-ki doesn't even raise your Power Level, so a weird argument. No, the idea that regular SSJ increases SSG power is fan-fiction what no evidence behind it.No, because Goku's base form after Battle of Gods has SSG's power but not its divine aspects. So, he can go regular SSJ, but he can also harness divine power to go SSB. Hence why despite absorbing SSG's power, Goku's non-god forms still don't inherently have god ki and can be sensed by other people
please I beg of you dont engage with her. Her entire purpose with starting the exact same debate over and over in the thread is purely a bait attempt nothing more, she is not interested in a good faith discussion she's a pure narcissist. i hate being cynical like this but thats really how it is unfortunately. just treat ignore her existenceHave you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.
i don't know if you can answer this but is there a rule on what kind of topics can be discussed in general threads? Because its clear that her entire purpose of endlessly bringing up the same topic over and over again like a broken record is making almost everyone here uncomfortable.Last thing I wanna say before I no longer engage with this: It's getting very tiring hearing this repeatedly complained about. A discussion rule was made on the topic. You tried to overturn it and didn't succeed. Just stop.
If you don't have anything new to bring to the table, this is not worth revisiting.
The series says SSB is 50x SSG
Vsbattle Staff "Nuh, uh, it's 10,000,000x SSG".
theoretically they should, but the fact that they dont due to the earth-like gravity of Namek actually supports the idea that its extremely large since that is the only way they wont dieOk but bulma and I assume the namek children would die under these conditions
If you believe that her constant insistence on this topic is to such a degree, you could probably report her to the Rules Violations Reports Thread. I do know she was topic banned from Dragon Ball for about 3 months before, due to a similar insistence, though that wasn't on a general discussion thread (rather, it was on CRTs).i don't know if you can answer this but is there a rule on what kind of topics can be discussed in general threads? Because its clear that her entire purpose of endlessly bringing up the same topic over and over again like a broken record is making almost everyone here uncomfortable.
You couldn't debunk my response.If you believe that her constant insistence on this topic is to such a degree, you could probably report her to the Rules Violations Reports Thread. I do know she was topic banned from Dragon Ball for about 3 months before, due to a similar insistence, though that wasn't on a general discussion thread (rather, it was on CRTs).
You’re likely going to end up unable to comment on this thread if you keep spamming this topic.[Base Goku scaling stuff again]